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Mobius Matt 09-01-2015 09:20 AM

EU Shows Menu Prep
 
Im stoked for the shows later this month. Given it will be my first time in the EU, (London, Amsterdam, Prague), I'm looking for recommendations on what local delicacies I should make it a point to try or vice-versa, avoid like the plague. Thoughts?

MaDalton 09-01-2015 09:56 AM

do not leave CZ without trying Tatarak

http://cestovinky.sk/wpdemo/database...ploads/546.jpg

(yes, raw beef with a raw egg yolk)

bns666 09-01-2015 10:02 AM

where ever you see the tourist crowd, go in the opposite direction :thumbsup

Sly 09-01-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567119)
do not leave CZ without trying Tatarak

http://cestovinky.sk/wpdemo/database...ploads/546.jpg

(yes, raw beef with a raw egg yolk)

Do you break the yolk and mix it in? Or eat it sort of as is?

What part of the cow is the beef from?

j3rkules 09-01-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567119)
do not leave CZ without trying Tatarak

http://cestovinky.sk/wpdemo/database...ploads/546.jpg

(yes, raw beef with a raw egg yolk)

I love it.

MaDalton 09-01-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20567127)
Do you break the yolk and mix it in? Or eat it sort of as is?

What part of the cow is the beef from?

You mix it, together with salt, pepper, mustard etc.. then you get toasted bread with olive oil and garlic and rub the garlic over the bread and then put the meat on there and add raw onions.

I just had it and it was delicious :glugglug

(and i have no idea but it's usually relatively lean)

RebelR 09-01-2015 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20567127)
Do you break the yolk and mix it in? Or eat it sort of as is?

What part of the cow is the beef from?

Usually served with toast points. Rub the raw garlic on the toast and spread the tartare on it. Tartare is usually made with the cuts from the loin. I had an excellent one in Prague at a restaurant called Argument. Right up there with the best versions I've ever had. And the price was insanely cheap for the quality.

Mickey_ 09-01-2015 04:45 PM

A good, short list for Amsterdam (with the exception of 2-3 items from the list)

10 Dutch foods to try in Amsterdam | I amsterdam

MaDalton 09-01-2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20567548)
A good, short list for Amsterdam (with the exception of 2-3 items from the list)

10 Dutch foods to try in Amsterdam | I amsterdam

In case anyone ever finds out what is actually inside of Bitterballen let me know please...

Sly 09-01-2015 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567514)
You mix it, together with salt, pepper, mustard etc.. then you get toasted bread with olive oil and garlic and rub the garlic over the bread and then put the meat on there and add raw onions.

I just had it and it was delicious :glugglug

(and i have no idea but it's usually relatively lean)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 20567530)
Usually served with toast points. Rub the raw garlic on the toast and spread the tartare on it. Tartare is usually made with the cuts from the loin. I had an excellent one in Prague at a restaurant called Argument. Right up there with the best versions I've ever had. And the price was insanely cheap for the quality.



That sounds really nice. Have you ever tried making it at home? Is the quality of the beef the key?

Struggle4Bucks 09-01-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567552)
In case anyone ever finds out what is actually inside of Bitterballen let me know please...

Nobody wants to know:winkwink:

it would probably spoil it...

There are theories from crushed cow-eyes to.......

MaDalton 09-01-2015 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20567556)
That sounds really nice. Have you ever tried making it at home? Is the quality of the beef the key?

Many times with just regular minced beef.

Fresh filet minced yourself only makes it even better.

Sly 09-01-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567561)
Many times with just regular minced beef.

Fresh filet minced yourself only makes it even better.

It makes me think of sort of a tuna salad on crackers type thing.

MaDalton 09-01-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20567564)
It makes me think of sort of a tuna salad on crackers type thing.

At least here we do something similar with salmon. But tuna works too, raw tuna is one of my favorites

Mickey_ 09-01-2015 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20567548)
A good, short list for Amsterdam (with the exception of 2-3 items from the list)

10 Dutch foods to try in Amsterdam | I amsterdam

ps. in addition to the above, as your attorney I advise you to try the Shawarmas at 4AM.
Please consult Eric for further information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567552)
In case anyone ever finds out what is actually inside of Bitterballen let me know please...

Sometimes ignorance is indeed a blessing. This is one of those cases. ;)

Mobius Matt 09-01-2015 05:33 PM

You guys make it sound very appetizing...lol

dyna mo 09-01-2015 05:40 PM

i strongly advise against eating raw hamburger and raw eggs while visiting a foreign country.

PornSEO 09-01-2015 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567119)
do not leave CZ without trying Tatarak

http://cestovinky.sk/wpdemo/database...ploads/546.jpg

(yes, raw beef with a raw egg yolk)

Nice recommendation. :)

oppoten 09-01-2015 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 20567124)
where ever you see the tourist crowd, go in the opposite direction :thumbsup

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cps...28804908-1.jpg

MaDalton 09-01-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20567595)
i strongly advise against eating raw hamburger and raw eggs while visiting a foreign country.

If the country would be Somalia i'd agree

L-Pink 09-01-2015 07:04 PM

http://i.imgur.com/c4CIMQT.jpg

sandman! 09-01-2015 07:08 PM

have fun!!!!!

dyna mo 09-01-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567662)
If the country would be Somalia i'd agree


I couldn't care less if you agree with me.

Regardless of that, as a business owner paying thousands of dollars to send people halfway across the planet to do business it makes zero sense test one's digestion capabilities and immune system on my business account on a dish that isn't even a local dish

Struggle4Bucks 09-02-2015 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20567688)
I couldn't care less if you agree with me.

Regardless of that, as a business owner paying thousands of dollars to send people halfway across the planet to do business it makes zero sense test one's digestion capabilities and immune system on my business account on a dish that isn't even a local dish

Relax... the food in CZ isn't as bad as in the US....:thumbsup I compared it myself... only the $25 hamburger in Vegas was eatable... I think it was Gordon's (the UK guy)....

MaDalton 09-02-2015 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20567688)
I couldn't care less if you agree with me.

Regardless of that, as a business owner paying thousands of dollars to send people halfway across the planet to do business it makes zero sense test one's digestion capabilities and immune system on my business account on a dish that isn't even a local dish

ok - once you have people that you send halfway across the planet to do business let us know

meanwhile I answered the OPs question and let me assure you that my digestive system today is totally fine after 150 grams of Tatarak last night

would have taken a picture if i had known that foreign food is such a sensitive issue for you - i suspect you travel with your own supply of beef jerky and water sanitation tablets?

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567924)
ok - once you have people that you send halfway across the planet to do business let us know

meanwhile I answered the OPs question and let me assure you that my digestive system today is totally fine after 150 grams of Tatarak last night

would have taken a picture if i had known that foreign food is such a sensitive issue for you - i suspect you travel with your own supply of beef jerky and water sanitation tablets?

Personal and business insults over a meal choice based on shit you make up, I'm not surprised this sort of vitriol coming from madalton. And no, you didn't answer the op question, steak tartare is french dish.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20567851)
Relax... the food in CZ isn't as bad as in the US....:thumbsup I compared it myself... only the $25 hamburger in Vegas was eatable... I think it was Gordon's (the UK guy)....

I am relaxed. Youre the one making insults, not me. I never claimed food in cz is shitty. I stated I advised against eating raw food in a foreign country. If you knew what you were discussing you would understand the issues I am basing my views on.

Struggle4Bucks 09-02-2015 08:46 AM

I'm absolutely not making insults just sharing personal experience... but that of course is subjective...

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568015)
And no, you didn't answer the op question, steak tartare is french dish.

You mean the same like how schnitzel is a typical German dish, but as well, although they call it different, typically Italian?


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568019)
I stated I advised against eating raw food in a foreign country. If you knew what you were discussing you would understand the issues I am basing my views on.


I don't see why, if the quality of the product and the hygene standards of a country are similar, you would not advice someone to eat that there... if the only abnormal factor appears to be "location".

dyna mo 09-02-2015 09:00 AM

1.making sweeping generalizations about American food in its entirety based on a few meals is an attempt to insult. you're the one making comparisons between countries, not me.

2. no, not like shcnitzle. the Op asked for local delicacies, in most all circles that means food that is unique and original to that locale.

3. again, my advice was to avoid raw meat and eggs on an international business trip. it's beyond ludicrous to risk business goals to eat raw meat and eggs that are not even the local delicacy.

"hey, how many deals did you close on the $5000 business trip i sent you on?

"none, i was in my $400 a night hotel room throwing up and shitting the entire time because i didn't know i can't eat raw meat and eggs."

"you're fired."



it's not my problem you and what's his face can't see the business angle on that.

Mobius Matt 09-02-2015 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568134)
1.making sweeping generalizations about American food in its entirety based on a few meals is an attempt to insult. you're the one making comparisons between countries, not me.

2. no, not like shcnitzle. the Op asked for local delicacies, in most all circles that means food that is unique and original to that locale.

3. again, my advice was to avoid raw meat and eggs on an international business trip. it's beyond ludicrous to risk business goals to eat raw meat and eggs that are not even the local delicacy.

"hey, how many deals did you close on the $5000 business trip i sent you on?

"none, i was in my $400 a night hotel room throwing up and shitting the entire time because i didn't know i can't eat raw meat and eggs."

"you're fired."



it's not my problem you and what's his face can't see the business angle on that.


LOL that night in the Hotel room could be the deal killer on trying Tatarak

dyna mo 09-02-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobius Matt (Post 20568160)
LOL that night in the Hotel room could be the deal killer on trying Tatarak

a voice of reason. it sounds like you have your business wits about you, nice, that's rare around here.

here's to a successful business trip.:thumbsup

Nicholas FirstMobileCash 09-03-2015 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568015)
Personal and business insults over a meal choice based on shit you make up, I'm not surprised this sort of vitriol coming from madalton. And no, you didn't answer the op question, steak tartare is french dish.

Yes this is true, but many countries have adopted a variation of it as a regional dish. A few other Czech specialties that you can also find in other countries that I'd highly recommend:

Potato pancakes
Goulash
Roast with cream sauce

But tartare is just on another level. After steak, tuna is my favourite. I used to be disgusted with the idea of eating raw meat but wow, the taste says it all!

As silly as it sounds, I'm most excited for Amsterdam because of all the amazing Thai restaurants they have. Best Thai food I've ever had was in Thai Phutakun in the city center. :thumbsup

I honestly can't name a traditional Dutch food... brownies? Does that count? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Struggle4Bucks 09-03-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568134)
1.making sweeping generalizations about American food in its entirety based on a few meals is an attempt to insult. you're the one making comparisons between countries, not me.

Ok then... having 30 days of shit meals must have been coincidence then... Must be the size of your country then... the bigger the country the bigger the coincidences... Again... it's personal experience... not insulting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568134)
2. no, not like shcnitzle. the Op asked for local delicacies, in most all circles that means food that is unique and original to that locale.

Maybe... before continueing a useless discussion... OP needs to state what he means with local delicacies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568134)
3. again, my advice was to avoid raw meat and eggs on an international business trip. it's beyond ludicrous to risk business goals to eat raw meat and eggs that are not even the local delicacy.

No you did not:
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20567595)
i strongly advise against eating raw hamburger and raw eggs while visiting a foreign country.

"visiting a foreign country" was the factor... You should have said:
"i strongly advise against eating raw hamburger and raw eggs while on a business-trip.

The risk of getting sick from that food is just as small as getting sick from other food.
If you really want to avoid all risks at a businesstrip to not fuck up a businesstrip you better not go on a businesstrip and stay home...

dyna mo 09-03-2015 01:17 PM

i don't need to spell my fucking posts out for you . i was speaking to the OP, not you, he got where i was coming from and has since displayed the smarts to appreciate it.

Holly Lez! 09-03-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567514)
You mix it, together with salt, pepper, mustard etc.. then you get toasted bread with olive oil and garlic and rub the garlic over the bread and then put the meat on there and add raw onions.

I just had it and it was delicious :glugglug

(and i have no idea but it's usually relatively lean)

Did I have this with you? At one of the Euro shows?

Holly Lez! 09-03-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobius Matt (Post 20567082)
Im stoked for the shows later this month. Given it will be my first time in the EU, (London, Amsterdam, Prague), I'm looking for recommendations on what local delicacies I should make it a point to try or vice-versa, avoid like the plague. Thoughts?

First time? You are going love it! I will see you in Amsterdam! :thumbsup:winkwink:

TheMaster 09-04-2015 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 20567530)
Usually served with toast points. Rub the raw garlic on the toast and spread the tartare on it. Tartare is usually made with the cuts from the loin. I had an excellent one in Prague at a restaurant called Argument. Right up there with the best versions I've ever had. And the price was insanely cheap for the quality.

:thumbsup Argument has some great food, sad that the portions just keep getting smaller :)

but tartare in CZ is great, a decade ago nobody had good steaks, but everyone had awesome steak tartare, guess they used it all for tartare, none left for steaks :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568015)
steak tartare is french dish.

yes, but the toppings differ between countries, making them totally different
the Czechs have a great one, never made me ill
in Belgium it's called filet americain, and is very different from the French one, I actually think most people will prefer the Belgian version

TheMaster 09-04-2015 02:18 AM

in London make sure to look up reviews before you go somewhere

Lokal have all the Czech specialties AMBI LOKÁL and they r good

TheMaster 09-04-2015 02:27 AM

if you like duck, have it in Prague: Roast duck (pečená kachna)

or if you're really hungry: Pečené vepřové koleno which is roast pork knee or knuckle
1-1.5kg :)

the lamb is also really good at most places

O MARINA 09-05-2015 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20567119)
trying Tatarak


Do not want.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaster (Post 20570155)
:thumbsup Argument has some great food, sad that the portions just keep getting smaller :)

but tartare in CZ is great, a decade ago nobody had good steaks, but everyone had awesome steak tartare, guess they used it all for tartare, none left for steaks :)




yes, but the toppings differ between countries, making them totally different
the Czechs have a great one, never made me ill
in Belgium it's called filet americain, and is very different from the French one, I actually think most people will prefer the Belgian version

According to this cz site, they're the same. http://www.labuznik.cz/recept/pravy-tatarak-steak-tartare/

Nevertheless, of course there are variations and of course many are delicious. But its not a local delicacy as the op was asking for and i still stnd behind my advice to avoid eating raw meat, eggs, on international business trips.

TheMaster 09-06-2015 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571583)
According to this cz site, they're the same. Pravý tatarák - Steak Tartare recept - Labu?ník.cz

you found the recipe in Czech for making the original French way of tartar, the capers give it away

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571583)
Nevertheless, of course there are variations and of course many are delicious. But its not a local delicacy as the op was asking for and i still stnd behind my advice to avoid eating raw meat, eggs, on international business trips.

the way they make it it's local, because the French would never do it that way

escalope didn't originate in Italy, but every Italian will say it's local

or chocolate mousse is also originally French, but the country you must try it... Portugal, they consistently have the best ones if you walk into a random restaurant and every restaurant will have it.

But in the end what does it fucking matter where it originated from, if locals have been making it well for decades????

was at FoodParade food festival yesterday, the dish the most restaurants had was.... tartar :) my favorite was a duck breast tartar with foie

whether to eat raw meat on international trips is something everyone needs to decide for themselves

dyna mo 09-06-2015 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster (Post 20571795)
because the French would never do it that way


But in the end what does it fucking matter where it originated from, if locals have been making it well for decades????

whether to eat raw meat on international trips is something everyone needs to decide for themselves

The entire country of France would never ever make it that way? Stop making things up.

Because the op asked advice for local delicacies which traditionally means original, unique and authentic to the locale and i gave my recommendation on that. That's why it fucking matters.

advice is a recommendation, of course everyone needs to decide for themselves, i wasn't making a demand. The op already took my advice.

If tatare was the most common food at a random food festival, it certainly is not a unique local delicacy from cz.

PS you have a bit of duck breast tartare foie on your chin there. Here's a napkin.

mineistaken 09-06-2015 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobius Matt (Post 20568160)
LOL that night in the Hotel room could be the deal killer on trying Tatarak

What about trying it after all meetings and before going home? :winkwink:

ps: personally I would not like to try raw meat of any kind :)

mineistaken 09-06-2015 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas FirstMobileCash (Post 20569099)
Potato pancakes

Love them :thumbsup

TheMaster 09-06-2015 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571831)
The entire country of France would never ever make it that way? Stop making things up.

but they would never claim it's the French way

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571831)
Because the op asked advice for local delicacies which traditionally means original, unique and authentic to the locale and i gave my recommendation on that. That's why it fucking matters.

unique.... then almost nothing, because if you would know Europe only a tiny bit, you would know that many countries also share a certain type of kitchen and dishes. Goulash was invented in Hungary, but every country around it has their own version of goulash, btw when most people think goulash what they have in mind is more like the Czech or Slovak version then the original Hungarian version

so according to your logic don't try goulash or sausages (which r 100% local), because they originally came from Hungary or Germany.
Also current country borders were not the same as they were 200 years ago, hell countries might not even have existed back then.


now I'm done with this bullshit of wasting time on trolls, sadly that seems to be the only shit going on on GFY these days

to the op: you can listen to people who live in a certain country or know it very well, or second option listen to somebody who's probably never been to that country.

anyways enough time wasted, plenty of work to finish before the shows start, stupid to waste on people who I'll probably never meet at any show

dyna mo 09-06-2015 06:41 AM

We all get it, you think you're a fucking foodie. You know foodies do? They eat fucking food. You know what everyone on the fucking planet does?

EAT FUCKING FOOD.

You are not special because you eat food.

Fucking foodie got butthurt over a food thread and had to act out.

dyna mo 09-06-2015 06:56 AM

I'm a troll because I post my advice to avoid raw meat and eggs on am international business trip.

Fucking lol. The pussification of gfy continues.

xXXtesy10 09-06-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20567688)
I couldn't care less if you agree with me.

Regardless of that, as a business owner paying thousands of dollars to send people halfway across the planet to do business it makes zero sense test one's digestion capabilities and immune system on my business account on a dish that isn't even a local dish

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xXXtesy10 09-06-2015 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571908)
We all get it, you think you're a fucking foodie. You know foodies do? They eat fucking food. You know what everyone on the fucking planet does?

EAT FUCKING FOOD.

You are not special because you eat food.

Fucking foodie got butthurt over a food thread and had to act out.

:1orglaugh you are best poster on this board :thumbsup


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