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brassmonkey 09-02-2015 12:52 PM

Report: More than half of illegal immigrants on welfare
 
More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population's, according to a report to be released Wednesday.

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

The findings are sure to fuel debate on the presidential campaign trail as Republican candidates focus on changing the nation's immigration laws, from calls for mass deportations to ending birthright citizenship.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the center and author of the report, said that's a much-needed conversation to make the country's immigration system more "selective."

"This should not be understood as some kind of defect or moral failing on the part of immigrants," Camarota said about the findings. "Rather, what it represents is a system that allows a lot of less-educated immigrants to settle in the country, who then earn modest wages and are eligible for a very generous welfare system."

Report: More than half of immigrants on welfare

L-Pink 09-02-2015 12:54 PM

We need to find out what China would charge to build a wall on our border.

j3rkules 09-02-2015 12:58 PM

Stop welfare they go home, fine those that hire them. ID cards stops it all, easy to get.

CurrentlySober 09-02-2015 01:00 PM

Try in the UK... Its mental - People who have worked and paid in to the system all their lives get virtually nothing.

Those that just 'arrive' and haven't paid in a penny, or contributed at all, and often cant even speak english get it all.

Facts:

The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National
Insurance contributions to the British Government all their working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00

IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00

A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £6,000

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900

Says it all really...

mineistaken 09-02-2015 01:10 PM

title says illegal, body talks about "just" immigrants?

How would you get on welfare if you are not even legal?

Rochard 09-02-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568465)
title says illegal, body talks about "just" immigrants?

How would you get on welfare if you are not even legal?

This is what I was thinking.... You can't be on any federal or state programs if you aren't a US citizen; You don't qualify. Some local charities might have something, but not officially through the government.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568465)
title says illegal, body talks about "just" immigrants?

How would you get on welfare if you are not even legal?

the article states undocumented immigrants receive welfare.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20568481)
This is what I was thinking.... You can't be on any federal or state programs if you aren't a US citizen; You don't qualify. Some local charities might have something, but not officially through the government.

The center's report is based on 2012 data from the Census Bureau's Survey of Income and Program Participation. It includes immigrants who have become naturalized citizens, legal permanent residents, those on short-term visas and undocumented immigrants.

pornguy 09-02-2015 01:31 PM

Illegal sells legal does not.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568486)
the article states undocumented immigrants receive welfare.

That is funny, I thought you need document to prove that it is you who is receiving something.

And wtf - citizens paying taxes to support illegals? That is out of this world.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568502)
That is funny, I thought you need document to prove that it is you who is receiving something.

And wtf - citizens paying taxes to support illegals? That is out of this world.

I don't believe it's rampant, and the thread title is certainly misleading, it is illegal except for anchor babies, but the undocumented are taking advantage of things like medicare.

brassmonkey 09-02-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568465)
title says illegal, body talks about "just" immigrants?

How would you get on welfare if you are not even legal?

i won't go into detail about how they do it. read it again :2 cents::2 cents: they shy away from the term "illegal". in the article in calls for mass deportations.

brassmonkey 09-02-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568506)
I don't believe it's rampant, and the thread title is certainly misleading, it is illegal except for anchor babies, but the undocumented are taking advantage of things like medicare.

the man works the female files for welfare. it's well known in the community. the kids they have are on wic medical food stamps and money assistance. they had to put a cap on how many kids you can file for.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20568519)
the man works the female files for welfare. it's well known in the community. the kids they have are on wic medical food stamps and money assistance. they had to put a cap on how many kids you can file for.

leecher scum

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 03:47 PM

Horseshit. Illegals can't get DLs in most states annd anchor babies aren't any different from LaMonica's Jamals. Both are US citizens eating up welfare.

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 03:50 PM

From a black girl

Black People on Welfare: Let's Not Sugarcoat It


You see, Black Americans make up 32% of welfare recipients, even though they comprise a mere 12% of the US population. So the demographics of welfare recipients are not comparable to the overall demographics of the US. Even more concerning, Black Americans are more than twice as likely to have been on welfare than White Americans.

Vendzilla 09-02-2015 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20568703)
Horseshit. Illegals can't get DLs in most states annd anchor babies aren't any different from LaMonica's Jamals. Both are US citizens eating up welfare.

Well most of them are in California because of it's Sanctuary City Status and nearly 500k have applied for valid California Drivers License's , we are the only country I know of that makes someone a citizen just for being born here

Nearly 500,000 undocumented Californians apply for AB 60 license | 89.3 KPCC

dyna mo 09-02-2015 04:09 PM

Illegal aliens still get Medicare benefits, but feds vow crackdown, $70M savings - Washington Times

crockett 09-02-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20568435)
We need to find out what China would charge to build a wall on our border.

But I thought Mexico was gonna pay for it.. the JesusTrump said so..

EddyTheDog 09-02-2015 04:20 PM

So what % of illegals get benefits?..

brassmonkey 09-02-2015 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20568749)
So what % of illegals get benefits?..

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Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 04:25 PM

Did you read it?

Quote:

Illegal immigrants generally are prohibited from receiving federal benefits under the 1996 welfare reform law.

But an internal Health and Human Services audit last year found that while CMS has policies to prevent illegal immigrants from getting most Medicare benefits, it didn?t prevent them from taking part in the prescription drug benefit, or Medicare Part D, which was added under President George W. Bush and expanded by Mr. Obama?s health care law.
Quote:

In one of its reports, the inspector general said 4,139 illegal immigrants were able to make 279,056 drug benefit claims.
Holly fuck. 4 thousand people. And those are probably mules hired by crooked doctors.
How many claims are filed by always pregnant LaMonicas and DeShaniquas every week?

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20568749)
So what % of illegals get benefits?..

0.000000000% US born kids do because they are US citizens.

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20568733)
Well most of them are in California because of it's Sanctuary City Status and nearly 500k have applied for valid California Drivers License's , we are the only country I know of that makes someone a citizen just for being born here

Nearly 500,000 undocumented Californians apply for AB 60 license | 89.3 KPCC

More horseshit.

Map: Illegal immigrant population by state.

poncabare 09-02-2015 04:45 PM

I always thought illegals came to work? So shocking to read this development

kane 09-02-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568465)
title says illegal, body talks about "just" immigrants?

How would you get on welfare if you are not even legal?

You really can't get welfare if you are illegal, however there is a way to game the system.

Say a couple comes to the US illegally. They can't get welfare. However, if they have a kid that kid is a US citizen and they can apply for welfare on behalf of the kid so they might get WIC, food stamps, healthcare for the kid etc. Also when the kid then goes to school they could get free lunches for the kid.

kane 09-02-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20568435)
We need to find out what China would charge to build a wall on our border.

A wall will only solve half the problem. About 50% of all illegal immigrants came here legally. They had a visa to enter the country and then never left. It will be hard to police that kind of immigration.

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20568791)
A wall will only solve half the problem. About 50% of all illegal immigrants came here legally. They had a visa to enter the country and then never left. It will be hard to police that kind of immigration.

Stop it. Common sense is not welcomed on gfy

j3rkules 09-02-2015 04:56 PM

They are democrats in the making.

Robbie 09-02-2015 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20568742)
But I thought Mexico was gonna pay for it.. the JesusTrump said so..

Hey crockett...brassmonkey is a black man.

And yet here he is talking about illegal immigrants. How can that be?
Only "angry white men" are smart enough to question what the govt. is doing according to you.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20568759)
Did you read it?



Yes, I read it.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 05:06 PM

A flooded ditch would make more sense than a wall. Plenty of tunnels for illegals and drugs.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20568799)
Stop it. Common sense is not welcomed on gfy

I do not think anyone on GFY thought that wall would stop that completely.
And not even 50%. At least SOME decline would be a win.

Besides - those who came legally are less likely to be the criminal types than those who come illegally.

Relic 09-02-2015 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20568435)
We need to find out what China would charge to build a wall on our border.

Get the 2 for 1 special on walls

brassmonkey 09-02-2015 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20568787)
You really can't get welfare if you are illegal, however there is a way to game the system.

Say a couple comes to the US illegally. They can't get welfare. However, if they have a kid that kid is a US citizen and they can apply for welfare on behalf of the kid so they might get WIC, food stamps, healthcare for the kid etc. Also when the kid then goes to school they could get free lunches for the kid.

they were getting it! i know for a fact!! the fingerprint system cut down on it.

patadeperro 09-02-2015 05:53 PM

Did anybody even read the report? or did you let yourselves go with the link bait title?

Having and education higher than most of the bigots in this forum I ACTUALLY READ THE REPORT here is the proof

http://i.imgur.com/29my3Ce.png

The report sayings:
http://i.imgur.com/wQ1XZr8.png

So they are making the study based just on IMMIGRANTS (in a country where just the native Americans are not immigrants) they did not make any distinction in their results to verify or to know if the immigrants are legal or illegal.

So the title could have been as well: First generation of Americans get more welfare than the second, but obviously will not be as hateful as the first one.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patadeperro (Post 20568855)
Did anybody even read the report? or did you let yourselves go with the link bait title?

Having and education higher than most of the bigots in this forum I ACTUALLY READ THE REPORT here is the proof

http://i.imgur.com/29my3Ce.png

The report sayings:
http://i.imgur.com/wQ1XZr8.png

So they are making the study based just on IMMIGRANTS (in a country where just the native Americans are not immigrants) they did not make any distinction in their results to verify or to know if the immigrants are legal or illegal.

So the title could have been as well: First generation of Americans get more welfare than the second, but obviously will not be as hateful as the first one.


congrats, you just proved yourself a hypocrite and bigot. and you claim you're educated yet think native americans are not immigrants.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

should have kept your bigoted trap shut.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patadeperro (Post 20568855)
Did anybody even read the report? or did you let yourselves go with the link bait title?

Having and education higher than most of the bigots in this forum I ACTUALLY READ THE REPORT here is the proof

http://i.imgur.com/29my3Ce.png

The report sayings:
http://i.imgur.com/wQ1XZr8.png

So they are making the study based just on IMMIGRANTS (in a country where just the native Americans are not immigrants) they did not make any distinction in their results to verify or to know if the immigrants are legal or illegal.

So the title could have been as well: First generation of Americans get more welfare than the second, but obviously will not be as hateful as the first one.


while you've been busy pointing your fucking finger, some of us actually read the original report

and i fucking quote

"This study is the first in recent years to examine immigrant (legal and illegal) and native welfare use using the Census Bureau's Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP)."
Welfare Use by Immigrant and Native Households | Center for Immigration Studies


spare me the fucking bullshit about you being educated.

L-Pink 09-02-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patadeperro (Post 20568855)
Did anybody even read the report?

Yes. Do you need it explained?


.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20568866)
Yes. Do you need it explained?


.

:1orglaugh no fucking shit. his big education: native = native americans.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patadeperro (Post 20568855)
Did anybody even read the report? or did you let yourselves go with the link bait title?

I already raised that concern (without even opening a link or looking at url) in post #5.
Op is notorious for link bait titles :)

EddyTheDog 09-02-2015 06:16 PM

I hate to repeat myself - But - What % of illegals get benefits?..

Is there an answer?....

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568870)
I already raised that concern (without even opening a link or looking at url) in post #5.
Op is notorious for link bait titles :)

you and i even had a to&fro right here in this thread about that. :1orglaugh

see what i did there, fro.

JuicyBunny 09-02-2015 06:23 PM

Fence hoppers were quoted last year as saying they get nothing in their own countries but knew they could get free school, free medical, free, free, free, if they can get to US with a baby, with kids, or being pregnant.

Thats why so many walk, run, crawl into US especially if they are about to have a kid.

The kid is US citizen when born and can apply for all kinds of benefits. The system does not recognize the parents so the child is considered orphan. Gets a free ride until 18 at which time the kid can sponsor the parents and the incoming to US family train begins.

Google Venice Family Clinic in Venice, California and read through the site. I went there years ago when I worked as an actor. California funnels FED money through state then local programs to hide the fact they give benefits to illegals.

When I went for an appointment, in a room of 100 people I was often one of only 2-3 white persons in it. Sometimes 1-2 black families, rest all Latino.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 20568877)
California funnels FED money through state then local programs to hide the fact they give benefits to illegals.

Fucking traitors of the country!

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 20568877)
Fence hoppers were quoted last year as saying they get nothing in their own countries but knew they could get free school, free medical, free, free, free, if they can get to US with a baby, with kids, or being pregnant.

Thats why so many walk, run, crawl into US especially if they are about to have a kid.

The kid is US citizen when born and can apply for all kinds of benefits. The system does not recognize the parents so the child is considered orphan. Gets a free ride until 18 at which time the kid can sponsor the parents and the incoming to US family train begins.

Google Venice Family Clinic in Venice, California and read through the site. I went there years ago when I worked as an actor. California funnels FED money through state then local programs to hide the fact they give benefits to illegals.

When I went for an appointment, in a room of 100 people I was often one of only 2-3 white persons in it. Sometimes 1-2 black families, rest all Latino.

+ LA is a sanctuary city, a shelter for illegals to hide from the federal immigration authorities.

mineistaken 09-02-2015 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568879)
+ LA is a sanctuary city, a shelter for illegals to hide from the federal immigration authorities.

LA should be prosecuted for that! It is so crazy that is almost unbelievable - city decides to oppose the laws! Fucking disgrace.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20568890)
LA should be prosecuted for that! It is so crazy that is almost unbelievable - city decides to oppose the laws! Fucking disgrace.

and LA still takes the fed dollars! this state is getting the living shit sued out of it over this issue by the family of that woman who was randomly shot and killed by the illegal in san francisco a month or so ago.

brassmonkey 09-02-2015 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20568872)
I hate to repeat myself - But - What % of illegals get benefits?..

Is there an answer?....

you would probably have to go to records in dc. :2 cents::2 cents: they don't post that stuff online.

Horatio Caine 09-02-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20568854)
they were getting it! i know for a fact!!

Best fucking argument ever. You have outdone yourself shit for brains :1orglaugh

https://vegangstaz.files.wordpress.c...aboon-butt.jpg


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