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$5 submissions 09-09-2015 04:57 PM

Transitioning out of adult? Supplementing your adult income? Consider YOUTUBE
 
One guy's story.



His business model is actually pretty straightforward.

A lot of it can be outsourced to fiverr.

Whiteboard animation
Voiceover
Script writing

Check out his videos




Paul Markham 09-10-2015 02:19 AM

A lot of negative moaning and after a while it gets boring. :1orglaugh

Weekend before last we went to a Gluten Free Food Fair here in Brno. It was in a crappy old building, full of stalls on trestle tables all arranged in a pretty haphazard way. And the place was packed with people buying products.

We only found out about it because our local heath food shop owner is a friend. The marketing for the event was poor. The producers leaflets, mentioned the companies sites. Checking them out it's obvious most are clueless on marketing and selling online.

Just one example of 100s if not 1,000s of industries that need online marketing experts. Businesses that will pay to get the advice you guys have, businesses with tangible products that can't be given away free.

mopek1 09-10-2015 04:25 AM

Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.

It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.

Good for him though.

Best-In-BC 09-10-2015 05:23 AM

This guy sounds depressed and looks like a bullshitter

wehateporn 09-10-2015 06:01 AM

YouTube always win, you always lose

CaptainHowdy 09-10-2015 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20575765)
YouTube always win, you always lose

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...444da7d0f93304

Rochard 09-10-2015 07:19 AM

In the town I live in there is a family who makes their living off of YouTube. They have two young boys and with their father they started a YouTube channel testing out toys. Now toy companies and other companies like Disney and Pixar contact them for promotional deals. They are doing so well they bought a huge plot of land on the outskirts of town where they are building a huge house and a production studio.

MrBottomTooth 09-10-2015 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20575723)
Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.

It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.

Good for him though.

Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.

mopek1 09-10-2015 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20575822)
Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.

In this case maybe she deserved it?

But as soon as somebody gets offended or irritated or is just having a bad day, your whole business could be gone in seconds. It's worth a try if you don't have all your eggs invested in it though.

wehateporn 09-10-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20575833)
It's worth a try if you don't have all your eggs invested in it though.

Yes, as we've seen with Tumblr, you're only updating someone else's site, they can pull the plug on you whenever they want, they can make new rules that didn't exist when you started your project. Sure, put a bit of spare time in, see if there's a gold mine, but never rely on it, not unless it's already put enough money in your account to leave you financially independent

CurrentlySober 09-10-2015 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20575723)
Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.

Why bother?

Just re-upload his videos as your own, and make the cash from the ads yourself?

After all, thats how tubes work these days isn't it?

ilnjscb 09-10-2015 09:00 AM

youtube pays so little for ads - like 1/10th what you'd think, unless you have an express agreement with them, which requires big big numbers

Paul Markham 09-10-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20575822)
Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20575765)
YouTube always win, you always lose

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20575723)
It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.

Youtube has rules, it's their site so follow their rules or get booted off. It's an excellent place to get traffic, if you have something they want.

klinton 09-10-2015 09:22 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20575920)
Why bother?

Just re-upload his videos as your own, and make the cash from the ads yourself?

After all, thats how tubes work these days isn't it?


Paul Markham 09-10-2015 09:29 AM











The trick is in having something people want to buy. Not something you want to sell. Think about that.

The Internet is like a mail order catalogue of old, just 100,000s more pages. Pressure selling won't work, driving traffic won't work on it's own, great product won't work. Selecting these videos, I clicked back from a few because the intro after 5 seconds had me turned off, like the OP one.

We're in a market that has to hook the buyer in seconds. A high click count, doesn't mean they stayed.

crockett 09-10-2015 09:36 AM

You have to be careful with YouTube. If you do any sort of videos that disclose your identity there are a lot of people who have nothing to do but harass you. I know a guy who has had cops called on him and gone through all kinds of harassment and he just runs a travel style channel.

The worst part is YouTube doesn't ban the users who harass the video makers or even give you tools to ban them from your channel.

mopek1 09-10-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20575938)
Youtube has rules, it's their site so follow their rules or get booted off.

I have no issue with rules.

I take issue with someone else having their finger on my entire business.

mopek1 09-10-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20575953)










The trick is in having something people want to buy.

Sex and children's videos LOL

VTRL Media 09-10-2015 10:52 AM

Well, he's right that working for someone else generally does suck. How many times do you have to see some broken middle aged guy going into an office he can't stand to pay for his cow wife and kids in college, or some young bitchy girl who expects to get paid to play with her phone all day complain about her loser boyfriend for 2 hours a day?

It only took me a few years to realize I can't do that forever.

$5 submissions 09-10-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20575953)

The trick is in having something people want to buy. Not something you want to sell. Think about that.

This is the key. It's all about niche and positioning.

also, re: youtubue closing your account, always make it a point to build a separate site and advertise/brand your site through your video descriptions and within the body of the videos themselves.

bronco67 09-10-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20575815)
In the town I live in there is a family who makes their living off of YouTube. They have two young boys and with their father they started a YouTube channel testing out toys. Now toy companies and other companies like Disney and Pixar contact them for promotional deals. They are doing so well they bought a huge plot of land on the outskirts of town where they are building a huge house and a production studio.

It's like anything else...if you have something to offer the world, then you'll make money. If it's all about gaming the system with no real value to back it up, then it won't last long.

$5 submissions 09-10-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20576059)
If it's all about gaming the system with no real value to back it up, then it won't last long.

That's what Churn and Burn SEO is all about, bruh :winkwink:

mopek1 09-10-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 20576057)
re: youtubue closing your account, always make it a point to build a separate site and advertise/brand your site through your video descriptions and within the body of the videos themselves.

For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.

$5 submissions 09-10-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20576111)
For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.

Mirror your videos on YT/Vimeo, etc but embed on a site you control. The real money is not in the YT ads. That much is obvious. The real money is in add on services/products like books, coaching, getting people on your mailing list and sending them offers, etc. The video ad revenue is a drop in the bucket.

When you get sick of it, flip it on flippa. Cookie cutter crap (with traffic and revenue) on Flippa sells for thousands of bucks.

Colmike9 09-10-2015 12:29 PM

Be careful if you plan on just making easy crap to put out there. For example, a lot of those channels of people just playing videos games all got removed, unless it's things like walkthroughs, cheats, help, etc. PewDiePie dodged a bullet there...

mopek1 09-10-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 20576119)
Mirror your videos on YT/Vimeo, etc but embed on a site you control.

Yeah I guess so.

I guess I'm old school where I feel I need to control every aspect and that includes hosting my own content but you're right.

wehateporn 09-10-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20576149)
Be careful if you plan on just making easy crap to put out there. For example, a lot of those channels of people just playing videos games all got removed, unless it's things like walkthroughs, cheats, help, etc. PewDiePie dodged a bullet there...

Some of the Minecraft video creators are making a nice living, but they must be worried, now that Microsoft have bought Minecraft, surely it's only a matter of time until they ban the videos on YouTube, like they did for all of their own games, so far they haven't, but I'm expecting it :2 cents:

Colmike9 09-10-2015 07:26 PM

I'm thinking about making a channel/blog about stoner cooking. I can cook better than those girls making 127k/month... :upsidedow

Colmike9 09-10-2015 07:47 PM

I wonder if Rick Rolling makes good money?..

$5 submissions 09-10-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20576457)
I'm thinking about making a channel/blog about stoner cooking. I can cook better than those girls making 127k/month... :upsidedow

Cooking pseudo or cooking food? :winkwink::1orglaugh:helpme

Colmike9 09-11-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 20576541)
Cooking pseudo or cooking food? :winkwink::1orglaugh:helpme

Real food, here's some delicious homemade shrimp I just made :upsidedow

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E11QmKMPCD...600/shrimp.jpg

anexsia 09-11-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20576111)
For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.

Bandwidth is very cheap

anexsia 09-11-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20576427)
Some of the Minecraft video creators are making a nice living, but they must be worried, now that Microsoft have bought Minecraft, surely it's only a matter of time until they ban the videos on YouTube, like they did for all of their own games, so far they haven't, but I'm expecting it :2 cents:

Hell anyone playing games makes a good living it seems...I mean there's a ton of gamers on Youtube getting so many damn views just uploading videos of them playing through games.

mopek1 09-11-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 20577341)
Bandwidth is very cheap

You mean lots of bandwidth with a dedicated server with a quality hosting company?

Paul Markham 09-12-2015 02:55 AM

Giving the viewer something he wants to come back to is key. We know this from the days of TGPs and now with Tubes. Everything is about consumer retention.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsg...2ljEixyulzOnUQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

https://www.youtube.com/user/FRANKIEonPCin1080p

Look at the number of subscribers.

It's all about delivering to the customer something he want to return to. That's why you're on GFY, this thread, and not elsewhere.

mopek1 09-12-2015 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20577556)
Giving the viewer something he wants to come back to is key. We know this from the days of TGPs and now with Tubes. Everything is about consumer retention.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsg...2ljEixyulzOnUQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

https://www.youtube.com/user/FRANKIEonPCin1080p

Look at the number of subscribers.

It's all about delivering to the customer something he want to return to. That's why you're on GFY, this thread, and not elsewhere.


Here is a comment on one of the videos you just linked to:

"This video got deleted, anyone noticed that? Still got this tab open so I can leave a comment. EDIT: I suspect this video got copyright striked."

.....

johnnyloadproductions 09-13-2015 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 20577342)
Hell anyone playing games makes a good living it seems...I mean there's a ton of gamers on Youtube getting so many damn views just uploading videos of them playing through games.

If you have personality, then yes.

I don't really like Pewdiepie but he is clever and funny in his video mashups. I fucking FUCKING hate Markiplier but I guess because he is telegenic and has some of the humor stupid people like he does alright.

The one I watch every couple weeks is theRadBrad, he doesn't annoy me and he does a good job playing through.

I don't play video games much at all anymore but I like to see what's out there by spending 30-60 minutes browsing the walkthroughs and seeing the bosses. Several have 1+ billion views.
There's a lot you can do with it if you have talent and are willing to polarize people.

Paul Markham 09-13-2015 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20577595)
Here is a comment on one of the videos you just linked to:

"This video got deleted, anyone noticed that? Still got this tab open so I can leave a comment. EDIT: I suspect this video got copyright striked."

.....

So they should have stuck to the rules.

I find it amazing when people here complain about a social media site asking users to stick to the rules. After 15 years of non bitching of surfers and other business people not sticking to the rules, or the ethics and morals of the rules. Maybe different people are taking different sides, ultimately rules are there and to be applied.

This from a person who broke the rules in the UK, got arrested, convicted and fined. Twice.

My friend Damian would love that from me.

mopek1 09-13-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20578262)
So they should have stuck to the rules.

You keep talking about rules and I agree.

That's not my point though.

Paul Markham 09-13-2015 09:29 AM

What was your point?

Colmike9 09-13-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20578168)
If you have personality, then yes.

I don't really like Pewdiepie but he is clever and funny in his video mashups. I fucking FUCKING hate Markiplier but I guess because he is telegenic and has some of the humor stupid people like he does alright.

The one I watch every couple weeks is theRadBrad, he doesn't annoy me and he does a good job playing through.

I don't play video games much at all anymore but I like to see what's out there by spending 30-60 minutes browsing the walkthroughs and seeing the bosses. Several have 1+ billion views.
There's a lot you can do with it if you have talent and are willing to polarize people.

I'd do the same thing if i made $600-700k/month like PewDiePie... :upsidedow

(I have a feeling that South Park helped him a lot, though..)

mopek1 09-13-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20578412)
What was your point?

That someone else can type 'delete' and make your business vanish in an instant.

All your hours of work, money, and time spent ... gone.

Even when people follow the rules they are not entirely safe. Rules change and the people who INTERPRET them have lots of power. There are inconsistencies all over Youtube with people uploading videos complaining that their previous videos were deleted even though they followed the rules to the letter.

Youtube as a business if fine as long as you don't invest more than you are willing to lose time/money/effort wise.

mopek1 09-13-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20578415)
I'd do the same thing if i made $600-700k/month like PewDiePie... :upsidedow

How much of his income is from Youtube directly (ad views) ?

Mediamix 09-13-2015 03:34 PM

This is not working.. Two days ago I made three videos. I waited until now and I'm still not rich.

Fuck this shit! :321GFY

Colmike9 09-13-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20578588)
How much of his income is from Youtube directly (ad views) ?

People don't really know what he makes from just Adsense ads, but most guess it's around 2.5-2.6mil. in 2014.

signupdamnit 09-13-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20578262)
So they should have stuck to the rules.

I find it amazing when people here complain about a social media site asking users to stick to the rules. After 15 years of non bitching of surfers and other business people not sticking to the rules, or the ethics and morals of the rules. Maybe different people are taking different sides, ultimately rules are there and to be applied.

This from a person who broke the rules in the UK, got arrested, convicted and fined. Twice.

My friend Damian would love that from me.


True but the thing with Youtube is a lot of it is automated. I think someone brought up that comedian who had her channel deleted for fat jokes. Well the problem is that she was flagged so many times by users that the algorithm automatically disabled her channel. Despite what Youtube tells you it can happen automatically with no human intervention [by youtube staff]. There is an appeal option but whether someone always REALLY manually reviews it, who knows? I'm skeptical.

$5 submissions 09-13-2015 05:39 PM

PewDiePie on MONEY from youtube


$5 submissions 09-13-2015 05:45 PM

Hilarious Pewdiepie vid on HATERS


Paul Markham 09-14-2015 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20578636)
True but the thing with Youtube is a lot of it is automated. I think someone brought up that comedian who had her channel deleted for fat jokes. Well the problem is that she was flagged so many times by users that the algorithm automatically disabled her channel. Despite what Youtube tells you it can happen automatically with no human intervention [by youtube staff]. There is an appeal option but whether someone always REALLY manually reviews it, who knows? I'm skeptical.

I get that, the only way is to make sure your videos won't offend others. Fat jokes are out as they get flagged a lot. Unless the comedian is fat.

There are lots of sex, dating, gay, etc advice videos that one would think would get flagged, but don't. So whatever a person decides to market has to be inside the boundaries.

Viv Thomas had lots of videos, as did Playboy and some models. So there are ways people can use it. We have to adopt the attitude that these sites are there for us to use as we feel.

Remember all the bitching when other sites banned porn? As if we set the rules, which we don't.

It's time to realise the skills aquired to drive traffic to porn sites, has to be utilised to " Transition out of adult. Supplementing income, then consider YOUTUBE" :1orglaugh

Any site one doesn't own, can change it's rules.

$5 submissions 09-19-2015 04:40 PM

Making money off ads is the weak point of this model.

Why?

ADBLOCKERS!

Thankfully, if you use vids to build a mailing list, you're good to go.

Use the list to sell your own products like SaaS, software, books, or get people excited about your Kindle free book days to boost paid sales later.


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