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Jel 09-18-2015 04:22 AM

Democrats are apple fanboy homosexuals who are likely vegetarians as well
 
just an observation. On a more serious note, why do people who are on the left politically spout so much shit? I don't really have much time for politics and the immense bullshit, lies, spin, gotchas, self-service, long forgotten ideals, and the absolute fucking charade that politicians and sadly, most of the general public, actually believe is achieving something by them being in that position. That said, how is it it always seems to be the so-called liberals that are the ones who have very little tolerance, and end up as trolls much like retarded christians who wish you to an eternity of hell once their ridiculous claims are met with actual reason?

I was what you cool kids in the (apparently great, according to Rochard) US of A call a republican back when I was a dumb 16 - 25 year old with fuck all life experience but a self-important black-or-white ideaology, though soon realised that politics is a sham much like religion, designed to keep the idiots infighting, and to keep them under control. Seems most here are the same, or at least jaded if not outright enraged by the whole farce, and can at least see things objectively - unless they are democrats.

Any ideas why they are such a funny old bunch?


ps all democrats are on my ignore list, so for me at least, this should be a good thread.

jimmycooper 09-18-2015 05:05 AM

I wasn't like every other kid, you know, who dreams about being an astronaut, I was always more interested in what bark was made out of on a tree. Richard Gere's a real hero of mine. Sting. Sting would be another person who's a hero.

mineistaken 09-18-2015 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20582937)
just an observation. On a more serious note, why do people who are on the left politically spout so much shit?

Most common two reasons:
1. Nobody can argue leftism superiority talking logically because leftism is inferior for quality society. So they always spout ridiculous arguments, often twist everything and so on.
2. One must be dumb enough to genuinely think that leftism is superior ideology and dumb people rarely argue using logical arguments.

Relic 09-18-2015 05:17 AM

People who identify with politics are by and large, total fucking idiots. They are not there for you, unless you are rich.

Bryan G 09-18-2015 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 20582973)
People who identify with politics are by and large, total fucking idiots. They are not there for you, unless you are rich.

Well said, I am neither Rich nor Poor. Live comfortably, So does not make a difference to me either way. I just do my own thing, work hard and support my family.

Arguing politics on a web forum is just ridiculous,

slapass 09-18-2015 06:15 AM

In the USA, it is the extremes that are shouting the loudest. Both sides sound very stupid at this point. This might be because we lack real pressing issues. People are pretty well off and the economy is doing well so politics is now a "football match."

jimmycooper 09-18-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20582937)
just an observation. On a more serious note, why do people who are on the left politically spout so much shit? I don't really have much time for politics and the immense bullshit, lies, spin, gotchas, self-service, long forgotten ideals, and the absolute fucking charade that politicians and sadly, most of the general public, actually believe is achieving something by them being in that position. That said, how is it it always seems to be the so-called liberals that are the ones who have very little tolerance, and end up as trolls much like retarded christians who wish you to an eternity of hell once their ridiculous claims are met with actual reason?

I was what you cool kids in the (apparently great, according to Rochard) US of A call a republican back when I was a dumb 16 - 25 year old with fuck all life experience but a self-important black-or-white ideaology, though soon realised that politics is a sham much like religion, designed to keep the idiots infighting, and to keep them under control. Seems most here are the same, or at least jaded if not outright enraged by the whole farce, and can at least see things objectively - unless they are democrats.

Any ideas why they are such a funny old bunch?


ps all democrats are on my ignore list, so for me at least, this should be a good thread.

Before I get started, let me just say that the only reason I've decided to spend however long it will take to properly respond to your fallacious post is because I like you. Seriously, you seem like a good guy. You also appear to be more intelligent than a majority of the 'regular' posters here and it really, truly bothers me to see you exhibit the coping mechanisms of your lessers.

Sorry but I honestly wrote that last paragraph a couple hours ago. Then I got a call, then I got distracted, now I have to go do other stuff and, selfish as it may be, I would prefer to come back to as few 'open tabs' as possible. This one unfortunately does not make the cut. Don't worry, though, as I see mineistaken has posted in this thread and he's got a 99th percentile BTAOTD IQ. Yes, that's right, a BEFORE The Art Of Deal IQ!!! One can only imagine how he will set the world on fire after reading a book which many, many intelligent people the world over consider to be the 2nd most important, 2nd most influential book in the history of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE!!!

Even though mineistaken clearly has all the answers to everything, his Post-TAOTD life will be dedicated entirely to teaching his Arete to all the lesser minds of the world. So 99% of the however many billion people in the world. So he'll probably be too busy for you. Thankfully you'll still be able to seek guidance from mentally stable intellectual heavyweights such as Grapesoda and Vendzilla. And if you ever feel the need to seek out moral guidance, or just simply to witness world class displays of objectivity and tolerance, just go over to XBIZ b/c there's this really well couth fellow from New Jersey. Can't remember his name at the moment but he's like pretty much the perfect human.

Time for me to head out for lunch. Stressful because I'm going to Pastis, a restaurant which until this morning had been one of my favorite lunch spots in the city largely because of their excellent steak sandwich. Can't get that anymore because apparently I'm now a vegetarian. Maybe I'll go with the moules frites. We'll see. It seems I've become so dumb to the point where I don't even know anything anymore and I'm worried that I might not even be able to read the menu. :helpme

PR_Glen 09-18-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20582967)
Most common two reasons:
1. Nobody can argue leftism superiority talking logically because leftism is inferior for quality society. So they always spout ridiculous arguments, often twist everything and so on.
2. One must be dumb enough to genuinely think that leftism is superior ideology and dumb people rarely argue using logical arguments.

You couldn't even define 'leftism' if your life depended on it... You just think its anyone who disagrees with you.

bronco67 09-18-2015 11:03 AM

I'm a democrat.

I'm an android diehard.

I grill pork chops and steak pretty much on a daily basis.

Theory squashed.

bronco67 09-18-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20582967)
Most common two reasons:
1. Nobody can argue leftism superiority talking logically because leftism is inferior for quality society. So they always spout ridiculous arguments, often twist everything and so on.
2. One must be dumb enough to genuinely think that leftism is superior ideology and dumb people rarely argue using logical arguments.

When has the right ever been right about anything? They get us into needless wars and leave the economy a mess for the democratic administration to clean up. What the fuck are you talking about?

Barry-xlovecam 09-18-2015 11:06 AM

Tories NVM HAHAHA

j3rkules 09-18-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20583022)
In the USA, it is the extremes that are shouting the loudest. Both sides sound very stupid at this point. This might be because we lack real pressing issues. People are pretty well off and the economy is doing well so politics is now a "football match."

:thumbsup

Grapesoda 09-18-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20582937)
just an observation. On a more serious note, why do people who are on the left politically spout so much shit? I don't really have much time for politics and the immense bullshit, lies, spin, gotchas, self-service, long forgotten ideals, and the absolute fucking charade that politicians and sadly, most of the general public, actually believe is achieving something by them being in that position. That said, how is it it always seems to be the so-called liberals that are the ones who have very little tolerance, and end up as trolls much like retarded christians who wish you to an eternity of hell once their ridiculous claims are met with actual reason?

I was what you cool kids in the (apparently great, according to Rochard) US of A call a republican back when I was a dumb 16 - 25 year old with fuck all life experience but a self-important black-or-white ideaology, though soon realised that politics is a sham much like religion, designed to keep the idiots infighting, and to keep them under control. Seems most here are the same, or at least jaded if not outright enraged by the whole farce, and can at least see things objectively - unless they are democrats.

Any ideas why they are such a funny old bunch?


ps all democrats are on my ignore list, so for me at least, this should be a good thread.

they don't like paying taxes as well and most are low level achievers

Rochard 09-18-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20582937)
I was what you cool kids in the (apparently great, according to Rochard) US of A.....

If you don't think the USA is great, you are more than welcome to leave.

Jel 09-18-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20583268)
Before I get started, let me just say that the only reason I've decided to spend however long it will take to properly respond to your fallacious post is because I like you.

the OP is far more facetious than fallacious :winkwink:

Jel 09-19-2015 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583334)
If you don't think the USA is great, you are more than welcome to leave.

Ok I'll make a serious post to that:

I should leave the UK, or leave gfy? I see a hell of a lot of things that make me think the usa isn't that great, just like I don't think the UK is great. Being born in a particular place, and brought up there, well, I don't use that as the sole basis making my place of birth 'great'.

I get on great with tons of americans, tons of UK people, tons of insert_nationailty_here... what I can't wrap my head around sometimes though, is the kinda blinkered view some people have of their place of birth. That's not to say I think the usa is shitty, far from it.

imo all politicians suck, especially those in power, whose ideals have long gone, either by external or internal influences... so in turn they do a shitty job making their respective countries 'great'. I do pretty well, I have this thing, that item, work when I want, a roof, bed, meals, a mercedes, cellphone, internet, and so on and so on. But my personal situation doesn't change the fact that there are homeless people over here - fucking homeless, in the UK, in 2015... what the fuck. Pensioners die every year here because they literally cannot afford to heat their homes. Mental, as in actually mental, people don't get the care they need because of cutbacks and closures, and kill themselves or some other poor random cunt minding their own business in their back garden.

We held the Olympics, put on a great display, produce great music, fashion, innovation, and a ton of other great stuff, but we are far from being 'great'. If someone calls the UK a shithole I'm inclined to agree with them, not come out fighting with my chest puffed out because they 'dissed' some dot on a map of the earth where I was born. Just seems to me that america isn't as 'great' as you stated in your post I was referencing the other day, though you shouldn't take that as a slight, as that's not where I'm coming from. RandyRandy put it pretty well in crockett's fail thread, probably far better than I can actually articulate here, where it's hard for me to express my thoughts properly without it sounding like I'm 'bashing' america... which again, I'm not :thumbsup

Qbert 09-19-2015 05:27 AM

Blame the media. You have to be extreme or outrageous to get media coverage, so even if the issue itself isn't one or the other they spin their rhetoric about it to be extreme or outrageous. Both parties, not just left or just right.

SuckOnThis 09-19-2015 06:37 AM

Gotta love the European idiots who pretend to be experts in US politics and sucking on the same ideological cock you had to be saved from in the 1940's.

jimmycooper 09-19-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20583358)
the OP is far more facetious than fallacious :winkwink:

haha! yeah you got me! nice work. :thumbsup

2MuchMark 09-19-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20583311)
When has the right ever been right about anything? They get us into needless wars and leave the economy a mess for the democratic administration to clean up. What the fuck are you talking about?

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Jel 09-20-2015 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20584151)
haha! yeah you got me! nice work. :thumbsup

:thumbsup

black, white, right, left, straight, teh_homo, Spurs, woolwich... I'm ok with any person regardless of their views/actions/whatever as long as it isn't outright hate like that racist-but-I'm-not-really-honest! clown mineistaken. My 'beef' is with assholes and morons (hai suckonthis!), the other stuff means nothing at all :) My humour doesn't translate well at all to text though lol, I'm the first one to admit that :1orglaugh


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