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brassmonkey 10-11-2015 03:18 PM

China Joining Russia In Syria Brings Risks Of World War
 
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American Decline: Chinese forces head to Syria to join with Russia in filling Obama's power vacuum and purportedly fight the Islamic State. A false move involving NATO member Turkey could mean world war.

Russian and Chinese military sources now confirm that Chinese warships are en route to the Middle East to get in on some of the action of humiliating the U.S.

In just a week and a half, Moscow has upended the dynamics of power in the Mideast by taking on the role that President Obama relinquished: acting like a superpower in a regional conflict that has implications extending far beyond the region.

Russian ruler Vladimir Putin launched airstrikes against rebels opposing the terrorist Assad regime in Syria, first with a modest force to gauge the U.S. response and perhaps pull out if threatened. Seeing no threat, Putin has been intensifying Russian operations, even sending in Spetsnaz special forces troops.

China's entry means two major powers are stepping in to do what the U.S. was unwilling to do against IS.

It's a lesson in how fast the tables can turn when America displays weakness ? losing wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and proving to be ineffective against IS despite fighting it for a year and three months now.

Our commander-in-chief even admits that he has no strategy against the monstrous caliphate that his very own policies of weakness brought into being.

What is apparently happening now was inconceivable before Obama sent America spiraling into decline: our two Cold War adversaries uniting militarily in an effort that will ultimately give them dominance, at our expense, in the most strategically important part of the world, the oil-rich and politically fragile Middle East.

You can't carry out your objectives there over the course of years with the most advanced military in the world? Fine. Watch us do it, Moscow and Beijing are telling us with their actions. And in months, or perhaps only weeks.

How the next president will dig us out of this hole is hard to fathom. A new post-Cold War Brezhnev Doctrine could come into effect, in which Moscow and Beijing warn that they will not let the U.S. reassert its influence in countries they've "liberated" in the Mideast.

If that turns out to be the case, America will be risking war with both Russia and China if it even tries to return to its pre-Obama influence in the region.

Moreover, with Russia already more than once "accidentally" violating the airspace of Turkey, a NATO member in spite of its current anti-U.S. government, the dangers ? Moscow and Beijing engaging in incursions or other provocative actions on the Syria-Turkish border ? are clear.

All NATO nations are obligated by treaty to defend against an attack on any individual NATO nation. If Russia and China see what they can get away with, they could expose NATO as impotent.

Or, worse, they could trigger World War III.

Neither Obama nor the many millions who voted for him twice ever thought his policies of weakness could make things this bad.

China Joining Russia In Syria Brings Risks Of World War - Investors.com

heatherdeep 10-11-2015 03:26 PM

All war is about is profit! :2 cents:

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halfpint 10-11-2015 04:03 PM

If this article is true things are not looking very good for any of us and this is the first time I am actually shitting my pants lol

bronco67 10-11-2015 04:17 PM

I really like the ramping curve flight deck.

halfpint 10-11-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20601994)
I really like the ramping curve flight deck.

Have China even got aircraft carriers ?

halfpint 10-11-2015 04:23 PM

yes they do lol

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...28CV-16%29.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...rrier_Liaoning

j3rkules 10-11-2015 04:48 PM

China has been developing weapons for decades without any war to justify its progress. Its just a test ground for the Chinese as they truly have no influence or reason to be in Syria.

brassmonkey 10-11-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20602020)
China has been developing weapons for decades without any war to justify its progress. Its just a test ground for the Chinese as they truly have no influence or reason to be in Syria.

no testing in the field :winkwink:

oppoten 10-11-2015 05:00 PM

Nobody's trying to avoid it. That's the really scary part.

femdomdestiny 10-11-2015 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20602020)
China has been developing weapons for decades without any war to justify its progress. Its just a test ground for the Chinese as they truly have no influence or reason to be in Syria.

Probably, but they will tell that they are working on disabling muslim extremism. They also have similar problem on their soil with Uyghurs

directfiesta 10-11-2015 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20602020)
China has been developing weapons for decades without any war to justify its progress. Its just a test ground for the Chinese as they truly have no influence or reason to be in Syria.


... and the US does ?

Can you elaborate ?

crockett 10-11-2015 08:16 PM

I like this.. Let the Russians and Chinese show the rest of the world how nice they have had it with the U.S. As the only Super Power.. All the bitching about the U.S. Doing this or that.. Wait till they get a little taste of 2 countries who don't actually give a shit if they shoot down civilian airliners or bomb civilians.

Sure the U.S. Might fuck up and hit civilian targets as its gonna happen in war, but at least we make an effort to try not to.. Russians and Chinese are both very brutal and won't give a fuck just like Putin didn't give a fuck about his rebels shooting down the Asian airliner.. Russia and China will kill civilians anytime they get in the way of an objective.

brassmonkey 10-11-2015 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20602137)
I like this.. Let the Russians and Chinese show the rest of the world how nice they have had it with the U.S. As the only Super Power.. All the bitching about the U.S. Doing this or that.. Wait till they get a little taste of 2 countries who don't actually give a shit if they shoot down civilian airliners or bomb civilians.

Sure the U.S. Might fuck up and hit civilian targets as its gonna happen in war, but at least we make an effort to try not to.. Russians and Chinese are both very brutal and won't give a fuck just like Putin didn't give a fuck about his rebels shooting down the Asian airliner.. Russia and China will kill civilians anytime they get in the way of an objective.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :(:( :helpme:helpme

L-Pink 10-11-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20602142)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :(:( :helpme:helpme

What's so funny crip? Give us your view.

crockett 10-11-2015 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20602135)
... and the US does ?

Can you elaborate ?

He's saying their military and equipment is untested so it's an easy way for them to try to strut their stuff..

TampaToker 10-11-2015 08:25 PM

All this over a frigin pipeline unreal :2 cents:

brassmonkey 10-11-2015 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20602144)
What's so funny crip? Give us your view.

fuck you dogg :2 cents::2 cents:

L-Pink 10-11-2015 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20602148)
fuck you dogg :2 cents::2 cents:


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_Richard_ 10-12-2015 02:48 AM

funny how a lot of these articles include 'humiliate the US'.. strange dialogue to take on your own forces

adultmobile 10-12-2015 03:51 AM

Some infographics:

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If China sends ground troops, sure outnumbers anyone else.

just a punk 10-12-2015 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20601997)
Have China even got aircraft carriers ?

They bought it from Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...rrier_Liaoning

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20602137)
I like this.. Let the Russians and Chinese show the rest of the world how nice they have had it with the U.S. As the only Super Power..

"the only Super Power" - written in caps. LOL :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20602137)
Wait till they get a little taste of 2 countries who don't actually give a shit if they shoot down civilian airliners or bomb civilians.

Yep, just like we have bombed Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Wait... maybe it was done by some other country? I'm confused a bit, please give me some wikipedia links to refresh my mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20602137)
Sure the U.S. Might fuck up and hit civilian targets as its gonna happen in war, but at least we make an effort to try not to..

For real? How many military objects where in Hiroshima and Nagasaky when you've bombed them? Dare to count, clown? What's about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?

You have a very short memory...

https://cs7056.vk.me/c540109/v540109...DkMvhtsmZk.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 10-12-2015 04:32 AM

You think the Chinese are as stupid as Putin :1orglaugh

They would have nothing to win and everything to lose :2 cents:

Sarn 10-12-2015 04:33 AM

582 billion $
on this budget it is possible to buy up politicians of a half of the countries without war :2 cents:

RummyBoy 10-12-2015 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20602376)
Yep, just like we have bombed Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Wait... maybe it was done by some other country? Im confused a bit, please give me some wikipedia links to refresh my mind.

No, you're right. The Russians nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the attack on Yalta Beach :1orglaugh

stoka 10-12-2015 04:51 AM

that's now double work for that dude that posts grocery store photos and stuff :1orglaugh

RummyBoy 10-12-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20602358)
If China sends ground troops, sure outnumbers anyone else.

Doesn't always work out that way but Russia is pretty advanced militarily these days.... it comes from years of expecting the US to try and instigate regime change around the world.

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Sarn 10-12-2015 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20602382)
that's now double work for that dude that posts grocery store photos and stuff :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

crockett 10-12-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20602376)
They bought it from Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...rrier_Liaoning



"the only Super Power" - written in caps. LOL :1orglaugh



Yep, just like we have bombed Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Wait... maybe it was done by some other country? I'm confused a bit, please give me some wikipedia links to refresh my mind.



For real? How many military objects where in Hiroshima and Nagasaky when you've bombed them? Dare to count, clown? What's about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?

You have a very short memory...

https://cs7056.vk.me/c540109/v540109...DkMvhtsmZk.jpg




You brainwashed tool.. you are talking about WW2 killing civilians in that war was as common as killing soldiers.

If you want to go there..let's talk about how the Russians killed their own people if they wouldnt go be bullet shields by sending them into German lines with out having guns to protect themselves.

The point of bombing Japan like that was to completely demoralize them and destroy any will they had to fight.

You seem to easily forget how ruthless tje Japanese were in ww2. No one wanted to fight them to the bitter end with an invasion on their home soil.

Also how about east Germany and how russians treated them like prisoners for 30 or so years after ww2.

Face it commie boy you ignore all the shit your country has done while nit picking and blaming everything on the big bad USA..

Meanwhile your rebels in Ukraine shoot down a civilian airliner and Putin even held the dead bodies hostage..

spads 10-12-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20602712)
You brainwashed tool.. you are talking about WW2 killing civilians in that war was as common as killing soldiers.

If you want to go there..let's talk about how the Russians killed their own people if they wouldnt go be bullet shields by sending them into German lines with out having guns to protect themselves.

The point of bombing Japan like that was to completely demoralize them and destroy any will they had to fight.

You seem to easily forget how ruthless tje Japanese were in ww2. No one wanted to fight them to the bitter end with an invasion on their home soil.

Also how about east Germany and how russians treated them like prisoners for 30 or so years after ww2.

Face it commie boy you ignore all the shit your country has done while nit picking and blaming everything on the big bad USA..

Meanwhile your rebels in Ukraine shoot down a civilian airliner and Putin even held the dead bodies hostage..

Who cares. I can't wait to see how much "better" the Russians and Chinese handle these situations. The two countries that are still aligned with North Korea, what could possibly go wrong :D

Ribbet Hog 10-12-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heatherdeep (Post 20601962)
All war is about is profit! :2 cents:

SICK!

Not really some war is about bring down population due to over crowding... or a bad disease if you think about it in an area...

crockett 10-12-2015 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spads (Post 20602719)
Who cares. I can't wait to see how much "better" the Russians and Chinese handle these situations. The two countries that are still aligned with North Korea, what could possibly go wrong :D

Perhaps they are exactly what is needed. Seems none of those countries can stay out of trouble with out ruthless dictators in charge.

The US approach with kids gloves on trying to give them democracy doesn't seem to work. Perhaps is just best to bomb them into submission which is what the russians and Chinese will do.

JuicyBunny 10-12-2015 05:29 PM

Our investment house is moving much of our portfolio into various war machine funds and hazmat companies. I loves war...smells like cash.

Martin 10-12-2015 06:42 PM

Obama is smart. Let Russia and China sort out the shit storm that is the Middle East. Hes come to the realization that there is no winning in over there.

Ultimatrix 10-13-2015 12:37 AM

US can't go unchecked forever.


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