Here ya go make untraceable AR15 totally legal
 

did you guys see the big bust here in sacramento of AR-15 made from 3d printers.......the entire gun is legal to buy on ebay or gun store, no check, there is only one one piece called I think the upper? that must be bored out and put in. It is metal and the printer will make it for you overnight. Yes the fire too, very well. This is a real problem I don't know how they are going to tackle it. You could do this with a lathe and just the upper........a chunk of aluminum. Instructions are on the net. https://ghostgunner.net/

250.00 for the printer. They also have a the liberator which is all plastic polymer.

Was this the 8 people that were arrested a few days back? I didn't see that it was in Sac, all the news said was California.

yup in sac

So what's the problem here? It's perfectly legal to make a gun for yourself anyway. Has ALWAYS been that way. Don't like it? Get the fuck out of of U.S.

I don't mind it at all, it just needs be be serialized I believe, all firearms have to be. Other than that make away :) Some dude who did the wired article took the printer and the upper into the police station to turn them in and the cops had no idea what the fuck he was talking about or doing...........shows how much our LEO knows eh?

LEO's usually don't know shit. Kinda like somebody who thinks if you manufacture your own gun that you need to put a serial number on it. :winkwink:

What's your point?

You can make meth in a bathtub. You can grow weed at home (in the states where it's not legalized). You can make a shotgun with two pipes and a nail. You can make a bomb with fertilizer. You can make thermite with rust and aluminum. You can make dynamite out of re-purposed fireworks. The list goes on and on and on...

What people are failing to understand is that criminals are the ones making illegal guns. The same criminals that would get them any way possible, 3D printer or not. You would be hard pressed to find anyone that is against taking guns away from criminals. That's the rub. How do you respect the Constitutional rights of a law abiding citizen while keeping guns away from criminals? Answer; you can't. And that's what all these anti-gun dipshits just don't get. As long as there's criminals, there will be criminals with guns. Outlaw them all you want, the only thing you're going to do is turn law abiding citizens into outlaws, while enabling criminals.

Do people really think if they toughen the gun laws in the U.S. the murder rate by firearm will go down?

Yes, some people do. :1orglaugh

My understanding is that guns need to be made out of gun metal.

Otherwise the pressure is too much.

no guns needed here with this guy

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Just boat loads of LSD courtesy of the CIA :thumbsup

Im surprised brassdick haven't posted any tough guy with guns comments. You know he is badass crip and all.

Oh, is the U.S. the only place with internet and 3d printers? Your comment is overzealous and redundant.

Very insightful. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh You're like the new Yogi Berra.

3d printed guns will never be looked on favorably because it will take money out of the pockets of politicians, lobbyists and gun manufacturers. Governments will also lose influence trying to fend off rebel factions in third world countries.

If you are pro 3d gun printing, don't be surprised if you don't find yourself on the same side as the NRA. You know, the ones who are "trying to protect" your "right to bear arms."

I bet a 3d printed gun would be fantastic in a neighborhood firefight. Can you print the bullets too?

"can you start shooting at me after I print some bullets, please? This might take a few minutes."

It's a U.S. based forum talking about a U.S. based company. Don't like reading my posts? Fuck off and block me.

Who the fuck are you anyway? <---Rhetorical question as I truly don't care.

Dumbass you DO have serialize the weapon, read a book

Aaron is a complete dumbass when it comes to AMERICAN laws since you know he's an expert being from the EU LOL.

BUT where he and I do agree look at Japan..........3 that's right 3 deaths from a gun with a pop over 125,000,00

it really is amazing how we have to keep coming over there and saving your ass.......not even a "thanks"

can ghostgunner be used as small metal 3d printer for making other parts ? or it just makes guns ?
i mean ,can it be used as cnc ?

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Ghost Gunner is a general purpose CNC mill, built upon a large body of open source work, including the gshield 3 axis motion hardware, the grbl g-code parser and motion controller, and popular microcontrollers. All Ghost Gunner schematics and design files will be published into the public domain, and anyone can program anything for the machine.

Calm down man. You are so angry. My point is that, you are seemingly telling people to "get the fuck out of the U.S." as if those who do not share your opinion on things don't deserve to be here. Well the great thing about being an American is the fact you and I are entitled to our opinions. Just because your opinion may differ from mine, doesn't mean I don't think you belong here. In fact, telling people "to get the fuck out" that do not take your position, is actually quite UN-American.

I never said anything about not liking your posts.

By the way, I am not anti-gun. I just think being so gung-ho to condemn those who offer constructive criticism is reckless and unproductive.

By the way, even though this site is based in the U.S. means nothing. This site represents webmasters from the entire world. Also, 3d printing of guns will eventually become a world problem.

Feel free to verbally castrate me, after all, it is your American right.

What is Japans equivalent of the NRA? How many guns are produced and sold in Japan? How do those totals compare with The U.S per capita? Quotes of baseless facts are just that. What scientific method was used to come up with those numbers?

Why Japan's Murder Rate Is So Low - Business Insider
Guns in Japan ? Firearms, gun law and gun control
Japan vs United States Crime Stats Compared
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate


shall I go on or did I own you enough for you to learn that whole interwebz thing.

THey don't have an NRA idiot, because guns are outlawed there. Does that make sense to you?

:2 cents:

Well duh, obviously. Have a gun amnesty.

"i'm a failure" (Anders Breivik)

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I think that. Criminals get guns from law abiding citizens. Where do you think they get them?

There are maybe 80 million - 140 million weapons in the hands of the citizens in the USA.

I seriously doubt that the government would be able to take them away. We got the guns, we got the numbers and we got the bullets. Sensible gun laws won't work -- we are a bunch of cowboys, psychos and criminals with guns.

And if anyone thinks they are bad-ass enough to invade the USA they are in for a shit-storm like the never imagined. That's just the way it is and has always been.

I think the oddest part about this whole thing is gun nutters always think that the govt is coming for their guns. Lots of countries allow gun ownership without giving them to psychos and known criminals.

Yeah, I know all about the "slippery slope." I just think it is time that all citizens in the US get to the live in the first world.

Hey fucking retard, no shit. That's my whole fucking point IDIOT. Whose fault is it you can't fucking see sarcasm? Yours.

And.... I wasn't even calling you out for being dumb in the first place. You took it upon yourself to reveal that. Way to go :thumbsup

For one, the government isn't going to take away anyone's guns. That is just a scare tactic the NRA and gun nuts tell each other, as to freak everyone out in order to protect the sale and manufacturing on assault weapons and high capacity clips and magz. It is also used to make it easier for people who have "issues" to get a hold of weapons they wouldn't normally have access to.

Also, nobody is ever going to invade the USA. At least not in the movie like "Red Dawn" scenario. No, our enemies are much smarter than that. Al Qaeda's plans were smarter than that. They sought to cause us to get drawn into a quagmire they knew we could never control, in turn sapping our resources and crashing the economy in the process.

Cyber and biological warfare is the most likely threats we have to face as a nation. Our enemies know what will happen if they can disrupt our energy and communication grids, as well as financial institutions. Our greatest enemies at that point will be ourselves. With 80 to 140 million weapons in our society, you can probably guess how that will turn out.

Our enemies are thinking outside the box, maybe it's time the militia minded morons start doing so as well.

Aaron when did you move to Europe?

As I said in another post.... The people who are going to go after 3d printing of guns and who actually stand the best chance at at least minimizing the threat, will not be liberals and lefties. It will be the politicians, gun manufacturers and the NRA. They will ultimately be the ones deemed who have the most to lose... as in the form of dollar dollar bills ya

i wouldn't be so quick to make that conclusion. 3d printing is expected (and on track) to be yuge. they're printing 3d medicine and articifial organs now, i would think the manufacturing disruption hitting firearms industry also.


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Does someone have the plans to print a tank. Maybe an aircraft carrier. Sorry not interested in these little guns

Stop posting in it. Problem solved.

maybe if you used sarcasm correctly when writing it people would understand it. Go back into mommy's basement and think of the next cute thing to say.

Yes, 3d printing is and will be YUGE, but printing guns will become more problematic. Don't think for once that the pro-gun manufacturing machine (not you, the average citizen) isn't trying to figure out ways to close the legal loop holes that allow it.

Legal loopholes don't "allow" it.
People have made "homemade" guns since the first guns were ever made.
It isn't that difficult to do. The Chinese were doing it in the 13th century.
People in the modern world can do it much easier with or without a 3d printer.

The govt. is already overreaching in just about every way into our lives. They no longer "govern", but attempt to rule.
Some things work out that way to the good. Some things don't.

But looking at this as if it's something that a legal loophole "allows" isn't realistic.

That's like saying a legal loophole "allows" you to use your intelligence to do just about anything.

I think what you mean is that the govt. should try to find some way to overstep themselves again and try to make something else illegal to add to the thousands of laws that we already have.

Personally, I think the best law is the one that says if you shoot somebody it's a crime. And if you kill somebody it's murder. At least those laws make sense to enforce.
All this other stuff is just unenforceable.
No matter what the govt. does, if a person wants a gun they will get one...or just make one.

Besides the government isn't supposed to be doing all these things. It's supposed to govern, not rule.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

With all due respect, a musket is quite different than an AR-15.

Your also missing my point. This recent bust is a just a taste of whats about to unfold. This is going to be about pressure coming from the same folks who claim to be about your right to bear arms.... the NRA, the gun lobbyists, and the manufacturers. Do you honestly think they want you to stop buying their products when you can print one of your own?

Its the lower you have to have registered (this is the part that has the seriel number), unless you buy an 80% and drill out the slots yourself. Then you dont need to do shit but enjoy. I have built AR's but never from an 80% lower.

People have been making homemade guns every year since the beginning of guns. They were making them last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago...not exactly "muskets" like you are insinuating.
No need for a 3d printer. It's just a very simple thing to make.

As for the NRA...you seem a little obsessed with them. So I'll tell you what I think: I don't think that a person building their own gun gives a damn what the NRA says or doesn't say. And neither do I.
Why do you seem to care so much?