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candidpro 12-04-2015 02:31 PM

Descriptive web address vs short address???
 
Which do you guys thinks is better for business, a descriptive web address or short address?

Example: KinkyBDSMsexTube.com vs KTube.com

There seems to be a benefit to both, you can remember a shorter name and it's easier and faster to type, but the descriptive name let's you know it's just what you were looking for and seeing the descriptive name might bring in people out of curiosity.

So which do you think is better?

** Also click your answer on the poll above!

$money$ 12-04-2015 02:48 PM

There could be a thing as too much description I would make it something like KinkYSexTube or BdsmSexTube

j3rkules 12-04-2015 03:42 PM

I do not see any poll.

I would go with the domain that includes the keyword/s you would want to rank for.

hausarzt 12-04-2015 03:44 PM

Why not get both types of domains?
The poll needs a third option:
Both.

candidpro 12-04-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hausarzt (Post 20657190)
Why not get both types of domains?
The poll needs a third option:
Both.

Because 99% of time the name that is both short and descriptive is already taken. So should you go with a longer more descriptive name or a shorter memorable one?

SIK 12-04-2015 04:03 PM

I prefer two words max in my domains so... KinkyTube would be the perfect choice by my criteria

Vendot 12-04-2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20657214)
I prefer two words max in my domains so... KinkyTube would be the perfect choice by my criteria

That's a tough call.

So it really depends on what the two options actually are. Google has reduced the importance of a keyword in the domain name long ago but it will still help users to find you. Assuming dot com in both cases below:

If its between KinkyTube and KTube, I choose KinkyTube because its not that long or remember.

If its between KinkyBDSMsexTube and KTube, I choose KTube because:

(a) Much easier to remember.

(b) Much easier to type.

(c) Short and better for branding.

(d) The longer option will loose you a lot of traffic through typos.

(e) There are not that many popularly used words starting with K other than Kinky and people would probably first think of K as relating to Kinky. So the association with letter K will probably work well once the users understand your product.

candidpro 12-04-2015 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20657214)
I prefer two words max in my domains so... KinkyTube would be the perfect choice by my criteria

Like I said normally the best 2 word sites are taken so if you had to choose between a longer descriptive name or a short easy name what would you choose and why?

candidpro 12-04-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 20657469)
That's a tough call.

So it really depends on what the two options actually are. Google has reduced the importance of a keyword in the domain name long ago but it will still help users to find you. Assuming dot com in both cases below:

If its between KinkyTube and KTube, I choose KinkyTube because its not that long or remember.

If its between KinkyBDSMsexTube and KTube, I choose KTube because:

(a) Much easier to remember.

(b) Much easier to type.

(c) Short and better for branding.

(d) The longer option will loose you a lot of traffic through typos.

(e) There are not that many popularly used words starting with K other than Kinky and people would probably first think of K as relating to Kinky. So the association with letter K will probably work well once the users understand your product.

thanks for the post, you bring up some good points but my question is do you think typing in the domain is that popular anymore?

seems like most people find sites through links so seeing a site named "KinkyBDSMsexTube" they will know exactly what the site is about.

on the flip side seeing just "KTube" might draw curiosity and you might get more non-niche clicks.

thoughts?

MiamiBoyz 12-05-2015 01:30 AM

Short like your cock...also easier to remember with less chance of typos.

Vendot 12-05-2015 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20657577)
thanks for the post, you bring up some good points but my question is do you think typing in the domain is that popular anymore?

Of course typing the domain name is popular to return to your site and those users are the most valuable compared with the 95% who will never return to your site! But it depends on what level you're operating at. If you site is never gonna see more than a trickle of traffic, you may not get more than a tiny trickle of repeat traffic. If you content is really sticky and people need to come back, they'll type in your domain name.

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seems like most people find sites through links so seeing a site named "KinkyBDSMsexTube" they will know exactly what the site is about.
I disagree because anywhere your site shows up, usually a description will be appended.

KTube - THE place in town for kinky, bdsm, sex and all things freaky!

Even in google there'll be a description and title. And if its just a text link, you can use anchor text to describe content.

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on the flip side seeing just "KTube" might draw curiosity and you might get more non-niche clicks.
I don't think that's gonna be a big upside but these days if you're putting a lot into something, I would always go short, easy to type and easy to remember. Anyone can remember a 5 letter dot com and they are plentiful. Even KinkyTube.com is very easy to remember.

Whatever you do, think carefully because once you're building a site on it there's no going back and switching domains is always a headache and causes losses. If you have the choices, feel free to post them and i'll give you my feedback free of any charge (I usually charge $900 per hour so its good value offer for you).

Pad 12-05-2015 01:50 AM

gtld branding is fun https://epc.network

i was going to register "telephone.sex" because i think the .xxx didn't exist, but someone beat me to it. i feel like because telephone is synonymous with phone i could have slapped an ssl cert onto that bitch, got all fancy pants with the seo and ranked pretty high for "phone sex" and related keywords across numerous search engines

only then was i going to come here and figure out how to monetize it, or build out a phone sex service from scratch if need be

i don't really have time for any pet projects anymore :error :(

DamnSexy 12-05-2015 01:52 AM

If you have choice between both, then take the shortest

It's Easier to read and to remember, more catchy.

And in case your business sinks one day, you could still sell your short domain name better than a long one.

HandballJim 12-05-2015 09:39 AM

When search engines respected keyword search domains descriptive mattered, now shorter the better as it does not matter, but the visitor can remember easier. As I made an investment in a short one word domain like Play.xxx and others. I only recommend .com and .xxx extensions for adult, even use a hyphen instead of another extension. I have yet to develop the domain and looking to resell it. Perfect for tube, games, ect.

NakedWomenTime 12-05-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20657633)
Short like your cock...also easier to remember with less chance of typos.

+1

Keep it as short as possible, and as brandable as possible.

DBS.US 12-05-2015 09:50 AM

isuckatmarketing.com or ISAM.com

penisland.com or PenIsland.com or PI.com

Andreweb 12-05-2015 11:00 AM

I preffer the short ones !

candidpro 12-05-2015 11:38 AM

thanks guys some good insight (expect that dick comment!)

i guess i was looking at it in terms of tube traffic, a lot of the sites advertised on tubes seems to have long names like "KinkyBDSMsexTube" where it seems like they don't care about typos and things.

i guess if you're going off only tube traffic and banner clicks it doesn't matter as much, whereas if you want more organic google or search traffic shorter is better?

SIK 12-05-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20657572)
Like I said normally the best 2 word sites are taken so if you had to choose between a longer descriptive name or a short easy name what would you choose and why?

I have to moderately disagree on that one.

Yes, most of good stuff and exact search terms are taken but there is a lot of adjectives and creativeness possibilities to pick a good two word domain, even a perfectly brandable one.

Vendot 12-05-2015 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20657957)
a lot of the sites advertised on tubes seems to have long names like "KinkyBDSMsexTube" where it seems like they don't care about typos and things.

And probably won't be around for long. If you lose even just 10% of your traffic every day, day after day, through traffic leaks its going to hurt your business cumulatively and the guy with the typos of your domain is going to profit off your hard work.

So you shouldn't look too closely at what others are doing since 90% of people are too lazy to spend time on finding a good domain name. They'd rather just jump in and get started.

candidpro 12-05-2015 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20658074)
I have to moderately disagree on that one.

Yes, most of good stuff and exact search terms are taken but there is a lot of adjectives and creativeness possibilities to pick a good two word domain, even a perfectly brandable one.

when was the last time you looked for a domain name?? lol if it's VERY niche then MAYBE you can still find a good 2 word domain, anything remotely mainstream is taken.

anyway sounds like you are siding with the shorter domain name, anyone else have any input?

420 12-05-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 20657856)
isuckatmarketing.com or ISAM.com

penisland.com or PenIsland.com or PI.com

y u write penis land with capital i?

Vendot 12-05-2015 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20658354)
if it's VERY niche then MAYBE you can still find a good 2 word domain, anything remotely mainstream is taken.

He's absolutely right - the failure is of people to be creative and do the thinking time. Show us two words in dot com that is taken and I can show you at least 100 possibilities around that which are available register right now.

You might have to add some creativity or some numbers but its easy.

CheapInsurance.com - taken

CheapInsurance22.com - available
CheapInsurance33.com - available
CheapInsurance44.com - available
CheapInsurance55.com - available
CheapInsurance66.com - available
CheapInsurance77.com - available
CheapInsurance88.com - available
CheapInsurance99.com - available

MeshInsurance.com - available
VaseInsurance.com - available
PiggyInsurance.com - available

The list goes on and on and on. No-one has to spend to acquire a Domain Name when you can just brand your own domain name.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 12-05-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20658357)
y u write penis land with capital i?

Right? So I read it as penis land first then I read it as pen island =)

candidpro 12-07-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 20658370)
He's absolutely right - the failure is of people to be creative and do the thinking time. Show us two words in dot com that is taken and I can show you at least 100 possibilities around that which are available register right now.

You might have to add some creativity or some numbers but its easy.

CheapInsurance.com - taken

CheapInsurance22.com - available
CheapInsurance33.com - available
CheapInsurance44.com - available
CheapInsurance55.com - available
CheapInsurance66.com - available
CheapInsurance77.com - available
CheapInsurance88.com - available
CheapInsurance99.com - available

MeshInsurance.com - available
VaseInsurance.com - available
PiggyInsurance.com - available

The list goes on and on and on. No-one has to spend to acquire a Domain Name when you can just brand your own domain name.

This brings up a different point I think. This sounds more like having a 2 word name with not optimal words (PiggyInsurance) vs a longer/shorter domain with the exact words you want.

So would you rather have PiggyInsurance.com (not being the exact term you wanted) or would you rather have ChpInsure.com (that has your exact term just shortened)?

if you shortened it like CheapInsur.com or ChpInsur.com it would support my other option of a shorter name

Vendot 12-07-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20659804)
So would you rather have PiggyInsurance.com (not being the exact term you wanted) or would you rather have ChpInsure.com (that has your exact term just shortened)?

No I would choose PiggyInsurance.com or MeshInsurance.com any day of the year, because you can spend some ad dollars and people will remember it. If you browse around, you'll see millions of companies use this kind of naming strategy for real businesses.

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if you shortened it like CheapInsur.com or ChpInsur.com it would support my other option of a shorter name
No either of those options would be a HUGE mistake and would create the same problem we discussed earlier in this thread. People won't remember the exact spelling of your domain name but they will remember the spelling of the word Cheap and Insure.

For example, with CheapInsur.com, people will type CheapInsure.com and then you're creating typos for someone else to monetize. At the end of the day, you just have to think like an average user.

$money$ 12-07-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candidpro (Post 20657091)
Which do you guys thinks is better for business, a descriptive web address or short address?

Example: KinkyBDSMsexTube.com vs KTube.com

There seems to be a benefit to both, you can remember a shorter name and it's easier and faster to type, but the descriptive name let's you know it's just what you were looking for and seeing the descriptive name might bring in people out of curiosity.

So which do you think is better?

** Also click your answer on the poll above!

let us know what your decision was thanks

candidpro 12-08-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $money$ (Post 20660118)
let us know what your decision was thanks

I went with a 2 word site but no the exact words I wanted, so I guess I went with the "shorter" side but didn't shorten the words after all.


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