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Clay 12-10-2015 09:36 AM

Do small niche paysites still do ok?
 
Took a break from adult and getting back in, of course its a whole new ballgame than years go.
I was just thinking of doing a mature site and filming some older ladies & grannies solo, real amateur. Filming about 20 videos and making into a site. Charge $9.99 or $14.99/month and add a new girl every 2 weeks.
Get accounts on all the tubes and sign them up as affiliates and just keep posting clips to the tubes.

Would this work today?

BIGTYMER 12-10-2015 09:51 AM

Content is still king. Much harder market but it'll still sell. You just need to police your content more.

Another route to consider is Clips4Sale for niche content and ManyVids for the teen/amateur. You can make a killing on there with the right content.

E$_manager 12-10-2015 09:28 PM

Not think that it work today.
20 movies it's not so much. Tube traffic works when you regularly uploaded the clips and you clips have a good quality and quantity.

Clay 12-11-2015 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20664130)
Content is still king. Much harder market but it'll still sell. You just need to police your content more.

Another route to consider is Clips4Sale for niche content and ManyVids for the teen/amateur. You can make a killing on there with the right content.


Quote:

Originally Posted by E$_manager (Post 20664827)
Not think that it work today.
20 movies it's not so much. Tube traffic works when you regularly uploaded the clips and you clips have a good quality and quantity.

thanks guys

kuskka 12-11-2015 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20664130)
Content is still king. Much harder market but it'll still sell. You just need to police your content more.

Another route to consider is Clips4Sale for niche content and ManyVids for the teen/amateur. You can make a killing on there with the right content.

Clips4Sale has a affiliate system?

Matyko 12-11-2015 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuskka (Post 20664901)
Clips4Sale has a affiliate system?

I am wondering about this since a while too.. It would be awesome :2 cents: :pimp

MikeAMS 12-11-2015 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20664114)
Would this work today?

Depends what you call "ok", I definitely agree that content is still key. If you have unique and nice content and you are actually putting some effort into it (marketing etc). You can make a decent income (low $0000,00 per week) We have many small business that only have 1 or 2 sites and are very successful with us

BIGTYMER 12-11-2015 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuskka (Post 20664901)
Clips4Sale has a affiliate system?

Not that I'm aware of.

brassmonkey 12-11-2015 03:12 AM

yep digging around now for some. sandy and ash was a goldmine. wish i could find another like that.

j3rkules 12-11-2015 06:27 AM

You need more content than 20 movies.

celandina 12-11-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20665092)
You need more content than 20 movies.


We started with 6 in 2006 and did over 100 grand in a year...today we have 50 and do about the same... Half of it is the biz ( tubes, pirates etc...) and the other half are the fucking web guys I am forced to work with ( that is why I am here looking for help) but still an OK pension fund :thumbsup

Once I replace them and do the basic SEO and some marketing, we should do 5 x as much...

It is ( and always was) about the content...and then the support. A good content and a shit support = shit. Bad content and good support = even bigger shit.

SpicyM 12-11-2015 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20665287)
We started with 6 in 2006 and did over 100 grand in a year...today we have 50 and do about the same...

You mean 50 sites, not 50 vids right? :winkwink:

NatalieK 12-11-2015 09:31 PM

Our niche sites do ok. I think Traffic is king. With so much content, our sales would be higher with higher traffic.
We sell at about 1 sale per 1000.
Although, now, we're making all our sites clips available, with all our content available for $1 a clip :2 cents:

celandina 12-12-2015 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 20665379)
You mean 50 sites, not 50 vids right? :winkwink:

Sorry for the confusion: ONE site with SIX movies when we started and today still ONE site but 50 movies now.:thumbsup

We convert about 1% on a good day and about 0.5 on a shitty one. With about 2,000 uniques/day.

Our problem is shitty site with no SEO and no marketing... So it is all word of mouth...I need 10,000 good uniques/ day to think "retirement" :)

SpicyM 12-13-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20666092)
Sorry for the confusion: ONE site with SIX movies when we started and today still ONE site but 50 movies now.:thumbsup

We convert about 1% on a good day and about 0.5 on a shitty one. With about 2,000 uniques/day.

Our problem is shitty site with no SEO and no marketing... So it is all word of mouth...I need 10,000 good uniques/ day to think "retirement" :)


Thanks for the explanation, sounds you are doing well, do you push that on tubes?

The Porn Nerd 12-13-2015 09:38 AM

Yes they do.

See sig.

(But you gotta know what you are doing.)

celandina 12-13-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20666926)
Yes they do.

See sig.

(But you gotta know what you are doing.)

Smarty pants.... Yes we do, but on only about 6 tubes. But there are also reposts by others.:2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 12-13-2015 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20666938)
Smarty pants.... Yes we do, but on only about 6 tubes. But there are also reposts by others.:2 cents:

Dummy pants I was not talking to YOU. LOL

Thread: "Do small niche paysites still do ok?"
Me: "Yes they do."

Anyway best of luck to everyone. :)

Struggle4Bucks 12-13-2015 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20665287)
We started with 6 in 2006 and did over 100 grand in a year...today we have 50 and do about the same... Half of it is the biz ( tubes, pirates etc...) and the other half are the fucking web guys I am forced to work with ( that is why I am here looking for help) but still an OK pension fund :thumbsup

Once I replace them and do the basic SEO and some marketing, we should do 5 x as much...

It is ( and always was) about the content...and then the support. A good content and a shit support = shit. Bad content and good support = even bigger shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20666092)
Sorry for the confusion: ONE site with SIX movies when we started and today still ONE site but 50 movies now.:thumbsup

We convert about 1% on a good day and about 0.5 on a shitty one. With about 2,000 uniques/day.

Our problem is shitty site with no SEO and no marketing... So it is all word of mouth...I need 10,000 good uniques/ day to think "retirement" :)

Clipnotes:

-"Our problem is shitty site"
-only 50 vids on your site/started with 6 in 2006 (that's 4 updates a year)
-you claim you convert at 1:20 with 2000 uniques a day to make 100K per year...

Well... i would REALLLLY like to see your site... :upsidedow

247mg 12-14-2015 04:35 AM

We are in Indian niche and selling well!

SpicyM 12-14-2015 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20667407)
Clipnotes:
-you claim you convert at 1:20 with 2000 uniques a day to make 100K per year...


I think he means he converts 1% of his traffic, so out of 2000 visitors daily around 20 (1:100) actually buy a membership.

Porko 12-14-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20664114)
Took a break from adult and getting back in, of course its a whole new ballgame than years go.
I was just thinking of doing a mature site and filming some older ladies & grannies solo, real amateur. Filming about 20 videos and making into a site. Charge $9.99 or $14.99/month and add a new girl every 2 weeks.
Get accounts on all the tubes and sign them up as affiliates and just keep posting clips to the tubes.

Would this work today?


Yes they do but $9,99 a month it's too cheap. Except that you can get a big volume of sales a month. Try $19,95 a month.

If you need good upsales for your member's area, I suggest these sites: WifeBucket.com and exHacked.com

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

mopek1 12-14-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20667407)
Clipnotes:

-"Our problem is shitty site"
-only 50 vids on your site/started with 6 in 2006 (that's 4 updates a year)
-you claim you convert at 1:20 with 2000 uniques a day to make 100K per year...

Well... i would REALLLLY like to see your site... :upsidedow

Thinking the same.

If you have a site that converts 1:2000 and can make 6 figures/year with only 50 vids let's see it.

Struggle4Bucks 12-15-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 20667743)
I think he means he converts 1% of his traffic, so out of 2000 visitors daily around 20 (1:100) actually buy a membership.

Ah... you're correct... 1:100...

Still... I don't believe anything from that story.... well... yes... maybe the 2000 daily uniques and the 50 fiddy vids:upsidedow

wehateporn 12-15-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20664114)
Took a break from adult and getting back in, of course its a whole new ballgame than years go.
I was just thinking of doing a mature site and filming some older ladies & grannies solo, real amateur. Filming about 20 videos and making into a site. Charge $9.99 or $14.99/month and add a new girl every 2 weeks.
Get accounts on all the tubes and sign them up as affiliates and just keep posting clips to the tubes.

Would this work today?

You need to reach out to the user Pseudonymous :2 cents:

Nicky 12-15-2015 05:01 PM

Niche still sells and retains for sure

celandina 12-15-2015 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20669755)
Ah... you're correct... 1:100...

Still... I don't believe anything from that story.... well... yes... maybe the 2000 daily uniques and the 50 fiddy vids:upsidedow


I am not bragging and 100 K a year is about right. I have nothing to gain by bragging and I believe we should do 10 x better if I had a site with SEO, some marketing and without DRM "baggage" too complex to actually get the movie. I also do NOT run membership site, we sell "tangibles" ( downloads, streams and DVDs) of individual feature films. The customer buys/rents each movie separately. I will also confirm that the site is NOT yet profitable on its own, because of the cost of producing the movies. The reason we are still making them is because we have still strong ancillary cable TV, foreign video and now some VOD sales. The movies are all soft lesbian erotica.

And the reason I am not posting the site here for now is simple. I have a bunch of posts here looking for somebody to build a new site for me and have no desire for my current programmer to see ( even by accident) that I am trying to replace him....:2 cents:

celandina 12-16-2015 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20666976)
Dummy pants I was not talking to YOU. LOL

Thread: "Do small niche paysites still do ok?"
Me: "Yes they do."

Anyway best of luck to everyone. :)


I see you know how to use quote function :thumbsup Maybe you should use it next time when are you answering a post 10 posts above ( starter or not), only then dummy like me will not be confused. But hey, you guessed right :thumbsup

mopek1 12-16-2015 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20670080)
I am not bragging and 100 K a year is about right. I have nothing to gain by bragging and I believe we should do 10 x better if I had a site with SEO, some marketing and without DRM "baggage" too complex to actually get the movie. I also do NOT run membership site, we sell "tangibles" ( downloads, streams and DVDs) of individual feature films. The customer buys/rents each movie separately. I will also confirm that the site is NOT yet profitable on its own, because of the cost of producing the movies. The reason we are still making them is because we have still strong ancillary cable TV, foreign video and now some VOD sales. The movies are all soft lesbian erotica.

And the reason I am not posting the site here for now is simple. I have a bunch of posts here looking for somebody to build a new site for me and have no desire for my current programmer to see ( even by accident) that I am trying to replace him....:2 cents:

I guess the assumption on my part was that you were running a typical membership site which is what most program owners are doing. There's no way anyone could have guessed this.

Good luck with your expansion.

NatalieK 12-17-2015 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20665899)
all our content available for $1 a clip :2 cents:

we've finished the first site XXX adult party clips :thumbsup


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