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mce 01-02-2016 02:55 PM

Oregon employers can no longer filter job applicants based on CRIMINAL CONVICTION
 
If you are an ex-con, you can have very bleak employment prospects because there is a check box on most job applications regarding past convictions.

Oregon has banned asking such a question.

Oregon Employers Can No Longer Screen Applicants With Criminal Convictions . News | OPB

Is this a step in the right direction?

Or should such a filter be retained for certain types of jobs?

Mr Pheer 01-02-2016 03:00 PM

I bet that over half of GFY is looking for rentals there now.

sandman! 01-02-2016 03:02 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20686515)
I bet that over half of GFY is looking for rentals there now.


Colmike9 01-02-2016 03:03 PM

It's funny that once in a while I'll see an application around here that says "Other than marijuana, have you ever been convicted of a crime?"... :upsidedow

mce 01-02-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20686515)
I bet that over half of GFY is looking for rentals there now.

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mce 01-02-2016 03:06 PM

On a more serious note, this new Oregon law should be very interesting to most people from a public policy perspective because the US is an incarceration nation:


baddog 01-02-2016 03:07 PM

Ex-cons make great teachers

onwebcam 01-02-2016 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20686524)
Ex-cons make great teachers

While you were probably joking, I have a friend who is an ex gang member from Detroit that has had more lead pumped into him at once than 50 cent who is now a Special Ed teacher. He put himself through school while living in a tent.

AaronM 01-02-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 20686510)
If you are an ex-con, you can have very bleak employment prospects because there is a check box on most job applications regarding past convictions.

Oregon has banned asking such a question.

Oregon Employers Can No Longer Screen Applicants With Criminal Convictions . News | OPB

Is this a step in the right direction?

Or should such a filter be retained for certain types of jobs?


Oregon's 2015 legislative session proved, without a shadow of a doubt, that criminals like Senator Floyd Prozanski can force through any kind of law they want.

Do you happen to know the bill number and/or sponsoring legislators for this law?

crockett 01-02-2016 05:20 PM

I'm mixed on this.. On one hand I think it's ridiculous to keep punishing someone who has already served their time and make it harder for them to get back on the right foot if they fuck up..

Meanwhile I'd sure like to know if I was working with a axe murder who got out of jail for good behavior...

Another issue, is its hard to even trust the current justice system, because it's all a ou t "getting them for something" rather than finding guilt or innocence.

xKingx 01-02-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20686642)
I'm mixed on this.. On one hand I think it's ridiculous to keep punishing someone who has already served their time and make it harder for them to get back on the right foot if they fuck up..

Meanwhile I'd sure like to know if I was working with a axe murder who got out of jail for good behavior...

Another issue, is its hard to even trust the current justice system, because it's all a ou t "getting them for something" rather than finding guilt or innocence.

Wow I agree with Crockett

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Rochard 01-02-2016 05:37 PM

One time at Playboy I interviewed a guy and noticed a three year gap in his employment history. When I asked him about it he told me it was a "mis-understanding" - He explained how he got into a fight with his girlfriend and pushed her out of the car. It was like it was no big deal for him. The three years missing in his employment history was because he was in prison.

crockett 01-02-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xKingx (Post 20686654)

I'm easy to agree with as long as you aren't a drooling Republican.. :1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 01-02-2016 06:43 PM

Once you have paid your "debt to society" you should be allowed to go on in your pursuit of happyness.

It's the American way.

rayadp05 01-02-2016 07:59 PM

Interesting.

mineistaken 01-02-2016 08:02 PM

Another libby state?

mineistaken 01-02-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20686642)
I'm mixed on this.. On one hand I think it's ridiculous to keep punishing someone who has already served their time and make it harder for them to get back on the right foot if they fuck up..

Employers "punish" applicants for many things (past, appearance etc etc). Why should this be excluded. It says something about a person as well.

kane 01-02-2016 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20686642)
I'm mixed on this.. On one hand I think it's ridiculous to keep punishing someone who has already served their time and make it harder for them to get back on the right foot if they fuck up..

Meanwhile I'd sure like to know if I was working with a axe murder who got out of jail for good behavior...

Another issue, is its hard to even trust the current justice system, because it's all a ou t "getting them for something" rather than finding guilt or innocence.

I agree. You hope criminals can move on and rejoin society, but if I am going to hire someone for a job where they might handle money or expensive merchandise, I think it would be nice to know if an applicant just spent time in jail for stealing.

crockett 01-02-2016 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20686766)
Employers "punish" applicants for many things (past, appearance etc etc). Why should this be excluded. It says something about a person as well.

Yes, but it also follows people their entire lives. It means a stupid kid or young adult can never have a real chance at fixing their life..

The moment someone checks that box saying they have a felony, even if it was 20 years prior means they likely will not ever get a "decent" job. IMO it should still be aloud for say 5 years, like it's still ok to ask if they have been convicted of a crime in the last 5 years.. That's reasonable but if you expect to rehabilitate people and make them useful members of society then at some point you have to forget their past and actually give them that second chance...

The current system in this country just keeps people as criminals their entire life..

MetaMan 01-02-2016 09:33 PM

Well can't you just not hire them if they are afro-american?

mce 01-02-2016 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20686642)
Meanwhile I'd sure like to know if I was working with a axe murder who got out of jail for good behavior...

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VikingMan 01-03-2016 03:55 AM

This might affect medium to large businesses that cannot get away with going around the prospective employees back and doing a check due to the HR department narcing on the company at some point but a small business can just go online and check the applicant and nobody is going to know. No check box is even needed in that case.

MiamiBoyz 01-03-2016 03:57 AM

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kane 01-03-2016 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20687001)
This might affect medium to large businesses that cannot get away with going around the prospective employees back and doing a check due to the HR department narcing on the company at some point but a small business can just go online and check the applicant and nobody is going to know. No check box is even needed in that case.

Very true. My nephew had a couple of different companies tell him that they didn't hire him because of the stuff he had on his Facebook page. There is plenty online about people now that the checkbox isn't even really needed.

Barry-xlovecam 01-03-2016 04:48 AM

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These policies will become very expensive or non-existent in Oregon. Does the state of Oregon plan on picking up the slack?

Employers are financially liable for damages caused by employee's dishonest acts and also for damages caused by violent acts by employees to the public or to other employees.

Manfap 01-03-2016 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20686763)
Another libby state?

Or the opposite, if you let them get a job, you don't have to pay welfare.

crockett 01-03-2016 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20687031)
What Is Service Blanket Bond Business Insurance? | Chron.com

These policies will become very expensive or non-existent in Oregon. Does the state of Oregon plan on picking up the slack?

Employers are financially liable for damages caused by employee's dishonest acts and also for damages caused by violent acts by employees to the public or to other employees.

No one seems to care much when wall street fucks people over.. why worry about some ex cons?

just a punk 01-03-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mce (Post 20686510)
If you are an ex-con, you can have very bleak employment prospects because there is a check box on most job applications regarding past convictions.

Oregon has banned asking such a question.

Oregon Employers Can No Longer Screen Applicants With Criminal Convictions . News | OPB

Is this a step in the right direction?

Or should such a filter be retained for certain types of jobs?

A very good decision, because if a person has served it's prison time (or any other punishment) and probation, he/she is considered clear. As we say "судимость погашена".

mce 01-03-2016 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20687059)
No one seems to care much when wall street fucks people over.. why worry about some ex cons?

Interesting point.

jsmih 01-04-2016 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20687031)
What Is Service Blanket Bond Business Insurance? | Chron.com

These policies will become very expensive or non-existent in Oregon. Does the state of Oregon plan on picking up the slack?

Employers are financially liable for damages caused by employee's dishonest acts and also for damages caused by violent acts by employees to the public or to other employees.

Per the story "The new state law permits employers to run a background check on candidates and ask them to disclose any past convictions after a first interview."

mce 01-04-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20687004)

Whoa. Those are real slaps.


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