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EddyTheDog 01-11-2016 06:21 AM

Would You Help Someone End Their Life?..
 
If they were really suffering but could hang on for months?..

Harmon 01-11-2016 06:26 AM

Nah, but I might pull a Kevorkian and help them get what they need to do it themselves. That's provided that there is absolutely no light at the end of the tunnel, no cure, no options. Of course I might suggest that they speak to a therapist before they do the deed.

ottopottomouse 01-11-2016 07:11 AM

Yes or no. Depends entirely on quality of life.

Similar thing - I wouldn't stop someone if they had decided they'd had enough of living and didn't want to go on.

ottopottomouse 01-11-2016 07:12 AM

Does nurse training batter into you that it's keep someone alive at all costs?

Ferus 01-11-2016 07:13 AM

Take a wild guess....

CurrentlySober 01-11-2016 07:15 AM

Only if it was someone I knew via GFY. IRL, I couldn't be assed to help either way :2 cents:

Tjeezers 01-11-2016 07:17 AM

nope, it`s not mines to take

EddyTheDog 01-11-2016 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20696400)
Does nurse training batter into you that it's keep someone alive at all costs?

The training does - However, when you hit the wards you soon make your own mind up...

TheSquealer 01-11-2016 08:37 AM

If they are member of this forum, then in 95% of cases, my answer would be a quick yes. No questions asked.

SpicyM 01-11-2016 08:55 AM

That would be illegal here.

DamnSexy 01-11-2016 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20696358)
If they were really suffering but could hang on for months?..

If it was my wife or my kids, i would help in the only condition that they would ask for it, and if there would be no way to cure their illness.

dyna mo 01-11-2016 09:33 AM

of course not, don't be ridiculous.

Sednub997 01-11-2016 09:53 AM

Im not mentally capable to do it

Rochard 01-11-2016 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20696398)
Yes or no. Depends entirely on quality of life.

Exactly.

My grandmother had colon cancer and they had her go through chemotherapy and it was doing more harm than good. She was 89, and decided she was better off just to die naturally at home. She was found dead a year later in her garden.

At a certain point in time you just know you cannot fight it any more. The older you are the more common this becomes. You can devote all of your energy and time fighting it or just enjoy your last few weeks or months.

To answer the question directly, it would depend on the circumstances. If it is someone who is younger and has a fighting chance, I would do everything in my power to support them in continuing their life. If they are older and fighting the medical issue does more harm than good or otherwise destroys their quality of life with little hope of survival, I say cut the cord.

Sly 01-11-2016 10:49 AM

Scenarios like this are life-changing. One may think that they would do it, or that they wouldn't do it, but when this scenario is in front of you and there is no longer a theoretical question, there is an actual question, responses may and likely will be different.

What we think we would do and what we would do are often two completely different things.

I'm not sure what I would do. There are too many variables to even begin guessing. Hopefully I never have to make that choice.

MaDalton 01-11-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20696432)
The training does - However, when you hit the wards you soon make your own mind up...

if you are a nurse you know how reality looks like - no matter what the law says

$money$ 01-11-2016 11:01 AM

My wifes mother's husband had cirrhosis of the liver it was to the point he was coughing up blood , pissing it out etc he was ready to go so she gave him a deadly dose of morphine and obviously he died but he wanted it too just kind of creepy she's a really nice woman but she can't get over the death of her husband

Scott McD 01-11-2016 11:04 AM

My wife's dad has cancer and has NO quality of life at all. He is even refusing his tablets now and just spits them back out because he doesn't want to be here anymore. He can't do anything for himself now.

He could still have weeks or even months like this. There has to be a change in the law here to allow family members more power if it's the right thing to do.

This has been a horrible time for us these past few months. Horrific actually...

Spunky 01-11-2016 11:12 AM

I would hope someone would do it for me if I was terminal

Best-In-BC 01-11-2016 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20696358)
If they were really suffering but could hang on for months?..

If its a real medical issue and not one picked up by the media, then yeah, if there in pain, of course, I was born with a heart.

Harmon 01-11-2016 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $money$ (Post 20696626)
My wifes mother's husband had cirrhosis of the liver it was to the point he was coughing up blood , pissing it out etc he was ready to go so she gave him a deadly dose of morphine and obviously he died but he wanted it too just kind of creepy she's a really nice woman but she can't get over the death of her husband

Chris fucking Butler, ladies and gentleman. More lies. More scams. You piece of dogshit. :2 cents:

420 01-11-2016 12:09 PM

I would help if they asked me to. Probably a good thing to know about your elderly relatives before they get dementia or become terminal.


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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20696696)
Chris fucking Butler, ladies and gentleman. More lies. More scams. You piece of dogshit. :2 cents:

Silly harmon, that's matt (cutty) cutts intentionally misleading you to make you look foolish.

romeo22 01-11-2016 12:54 PM

Depends of the circumstances but hell no

Coup 01-11-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20696402)
Only if it was someone I knew via GFY. IRL, I couldn't be assed to help either way :2 cents:

If I asked nicely... would you smother me with your poo?

CurrentlySober 01-11-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 20696790)
If I asked nicely... would you smother me with your poo?

why yes, because i dont know you in real life, just as a name on gfy...

SilentKnight 01-11-2016 02:32 PM

One thing I can guarantee for anyone placed in the position of having to choose between quality of life vs. continued treatment (ie chemo) for a loved one...you'll always revisit and second guess the decision you make...for a long time afterwards.

It's one of the most difficult things you'll do in life...not an enviable experience.

sandman! 01-11-2016 02:39 PM

sure why not.

Barry-xlovecam 01-11-2016 02:44 PM

I might hand you the gun if you pleaded to end your suffering but I wouldn't pull the trigger :2 cents:

TheSquealer 01-11-2016 04:10 PM

The actual fact of the matter is that it makes a huge difference in the framing of the question.

If the question is "would you push a button to kill someone you'll never see or meet or know to end his suffering" the answer for most would be an easy yes because its processed in the brain as a rational / logical question rather than a moral question.

If the question was "would you personally stab your mother in the heart to end her suffering" the answer for any reasonably normal person (not a psychopath or otherwise impaired in their emotional / decision processing) would say "no" with no hesitation.

The answer to the question will always be first influenced on whether its a moral dilemma or a logical dilemma. The further you are removed from the act (stranger/pushing button etc), the more the question is processed in one area of the brain as a logical dilemma. The closer and more involved you are in the act, the more it becomes a moral question (i.e. you directly harming/killing someone you know).

So, really the answer for nearly everyone is yes and no.

We are all capable of participating directly in a genocide. We are all capable of murder. We all are inherently against both.... We might all say we are not capable until of any brutal and violent act... right up until the right circumstances present themselves. Context is everything.

Dead 01-11-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 20696638)
I would hope someone would do it for me if I was terminal

THIS< I was told by a very wise old man, you will count your friends on one hand when you die! I have 3 I could count on.....

mce 01-11-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20696460)
If they are member of this forum, then in 95% of cases, my answer would be a quick yes. No questions asked.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 01-11-2016 04:42 PM

When I was quite a bit younger I had a friend who was a nursing student. She had a part time job while going to school working the overnight shift in a nursing home. These were people literally dying of old age...just in beds waiting for death. One night I went on her rounds with her and the experience really opened my eyes about life and death.

She would turn them...most were under 90 pounds with open bed sores that she would change the dressing...just huge gaping holes with no skin of muscle actually from the pressure of their own bodies simply killing the flesh.

As I said, literally dieing of old age. Trust me when I say that quality of life rather than quantity of time is the most important factor.

Any of these would have been mercy killing to simply end suffering as none of these people had any quality of life left.

So my answer would be based on quality of life left. Simple as that.

jimmycooper 01-12-2016 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20696460)
If they are member of this forum, then in 95% of cases, my answer would be a quick yes. No questions asked.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

baddog 01-12-2016 09:12 PM

I do it all the time and can't wait for the next opportunity.

RummyBoy 01-12-2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20696460)
If they are member of this forum, then in 95% of cases, my answer would be a quick yes. No questions asked.

Agreed. In some cases, the only moral question is whether it would be possible to expedite the process quickly enough....

muthisdev 01-13-2016 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20696358)
If they were really suffering but could hang on for months?..

Fuck yes I would. I've had people I love suffer for months. They had nothing left. Either in pain all the time for the last weeks. Or, barely awake and aware.

I regret that I did nothing. Even though it'd have meant jail. Sucks.

EddyTheDog 01-13-2016 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20698209)
I do it all the time and can't wait for the next opportunity.

I'm not sure what to make of that answer:Oh crap...

ContentPimp 01-13-2016 01:13 AM

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baddog 01-13-2016 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20698277)
I'm not sure what to make of that answer:Oh crap...

It is what it is; death doesn't frighten me and if someone wants to end it, I get it and love helping out.

EddyTheDog 01-13-2016 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20698295)
It is what it is; death doesn't frighten me and if someone wants to end it, I get it and love helping out.

If you are in London in the near future drop me a line - I have a job for you...

_Richard_ 01-13-2016 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20698277)
I'm not sure what to make of that answer:Oh crap...

'can't wait'.. wow

Lykos 01-13-2016 07:57 AM

I couldn't do it :(

bronco67 01-13-2016 09:36 AM

Only if they listen to Katy Perry or Justin Bieber.

420 01-13-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20698425)
'can't wait'.. wow

baddog really wants to win that troll of the year award

EddyTheDog 01-13-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20698425)
'can't wait'.. wow

It was just a poor choice of words - It makes it sound like he hangs around hospices offering his services - I think he meant he feels good when he helps someone who needs it more than at any other time in their lives...

At least I hope that's what he meant:Oh crap.....

PornDiscounts-V 01-13-2016 12:24 PM

I would have no issue doing such a thing.

muthisdev 01-13-2016 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20698605)
Only if they listen to Katy Perry or Justin Bieber.

You should take out Kim Jong Un.

brassmonkey 03-19-2016 12:03 PM

if they have access to their arms hand them a gun walk out


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