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2MuchMark 01-21-2016 10:29 AM

Track Palin arrested for domestic abuse. Sarah Palin blames who? Obama.
 
Ya know, sigh..

Sarah Palin Blames Son?s Domestic Abuse Arrest on Obama?s Policies | Mediaite

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Lights on, nobody home.

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blackmonsters 01-21-2016 10:39 AM

Obama probably knocked up her abstinent daughter twice too.

:1orglaugh

SuckOnThis 01-21-2016 10:41 AM

Nevermind the fact that her nut kid served one year in 2008 - under Bush.

Does she also blame Obama for her daughter being a slut?




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Robbie 01-21-2016 10:49 AM

That one pic of Obama laughing can be used for anything! lol

The pic that launched a thousand memes!

bronco67 01-21-2016 10:50 AM

She is ridiculous.

dyna mo 01-21-2016 10:52 AM

the libbies love sarah palin!

nothing new really, that's her job, that's what she's always done, blame Obama.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 01-21-2016 11:00 AM

That's a woman in denial of her own failures as a parent.

MK Ultra 01-21-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706660)
the libbies love sarah palin!

nothing new really, that's her job, that's what she's always done, blame Obama.

The idiots don't even seem to realize that THEY are the ones keeping her in the news and giving her the publicity she wants, if they never mentioned her again she would fade into obscurity except for with the small subset of far right-wing whack-a-doodles who love her. :1orglaugh

blackmonsters 01-21-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706660)
the libbies love sarah palin!

nothing new really, that's her job, that's what she's always done, blame Obama.



Quote:

Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20706678)
The idiots don't even seem to realize that THEY are the ones keeping her in the news and giving her the publicity she wants, if they never mentioned her again she would fade into obscurity except for with the small subset of far right-wing whack-a-doodles who love her. :1orglaugh

Oh, so the libbies run Fox News now?

:1orglaugh

Rob 01-21-2016 11:28 AM

Did you actually watch the video, and listen to what she said before coming here to make a factual comment based on someone else's opinion? She never once directly blamed Obama for her son getting arrested for domestic assault. NOT ONCE. She said that the current administration, starting at the top, does not appreciate veterans. That's a proven fact, not an opinion. She lumped her son into the discussion because he's a veteran of Iraq. It's a political platform and she's trying to emphasize that Trump won't lie to veteran's families and will take care of our troops.

Look, I'm not a fan of Palin, never have been. But this is a complete spin job by the liberal media. Be intelligent, look past the spin.

SuckOnThis 01-21-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706698)
Did you actually watch the video, and listen to what she said before coming here to make a factual comment based on someone else's opinion? She never once directly blamed Obama for her son getting arrested for domestic assault. NOT ONCE. She said that the current administration, starting at the top, does not appreciate veterans. That's a proven fact, not an opinion. She lumped her son into the discussion because he's a veteran of Iraq. It's a political platform and she's trying to emphasize that Trump won't lie to veteran's families and will take care of our troops.

Look, I'm not a fan of Palin, never have been. But this is a complete spin job by the liberal media. Be intelligent, look past the spin.


So she blames the current administration, starting at the top, but she's not directly blaming Obama. :1orglaugh


Why didnt Mrs 'Personal Responsibility Pull Your Boot Straps Up' Palin get help for her own damn kid?

Jman 01-21-2016 11:53 AM

Instead of blaming Obama she should blame her vagina... That is one women who shouldn't have been allowed to breed :(

Rob 01-21-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20706712)
So she blames the current administration, starting at the top, but she's not directly blaming Obama. :1orglaugh

Why didnt Mrs 'Personal Responsibility Pull Your Boot Straps Up' Palin get help for her own damn kid?

She didn't blame anyone for her son's domestic assault arrest. That's the point. She said that the current administration doesn't care about veterans and they're coming home from war zones with PTSD. And her son, who was in a war zone, came home with PTSD. She didn't say, "My son beat up his old lady because he has PTSD, and his PTSD is untreated because Obama called his doctor and directly forbid him to offer any treatment."

Once again, it's a spin job. That's like parents saying the lack of safety inspections/features on a vehicle was to blame for their child's death during a car accident, and the headline reading, "Parents Blame Ford CEO, Mark Fields for Son's Death" -- see how ridiculous that sounds?

2MuchMark 01-21-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706698)
Did you actually watch the video, and listen to what she said before coming here to make a factual comment based on someone else's opinion? She never once directly blamed Obama for her son getting arrested for domestic assault. NOT ONCE. She said that the current administration, starting at the top, does not appreciate veterans. That's a proven fact, not an opinion. She lumped her son into the discussion because he's a veteran of Iraq. It's a political platform and she's trying to emphasize that Trump won't lie to veteran's families and will take care of our troops.

Look, I'm not a fan of Palin, never have been. But this is a complete spin job by the liberal media. Be intelligent, look past the spin.

But it's not a spin. Even Time Magazine, a mag that has put Palin on the cover as many times as they have put Jesus on the cover (thats a lot) said: "At the Trump campaign rally, Sarah Palin blamed the Obama administrationâ??s policies towards veterans for abandoning her son." Sarah Palin Blames President Obama, PTSD for Son's Problems


Here's another:
"Palin said her son suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, and that Obama had made his situation worse by allegedly disrespecting veterans." Sarah Palin blames her son?s domestic violence arrest on Obama

What Palin did was take a real tragedy (I' sure her son saw a lot of horrific shit), and made a point to talk about it during a political rally and to trash the Obama administration at the same time. It was Bush's war - why didn't she bash him for exposing her son to war in the first place?

But besides that, she's wrong. Here is some of what Obama has done for war veterans:

Expanding Access to Education for Veterans
Helping Service Members Successfully Transition to Civilian Life and Civilian Jobs:
Passing Tax Credits for Veterans:
Increasing Hiring of Veterans in Health Care-Related Fields:
Hiring Veterans as First Responders and Law Enforcement Officers:
Putting Veterans to Work Preserving and Restoring Americaâ??s Land and Resources:

More at https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/def...s_record_0.pdf

I get it - all politicians are out to win, but why not stick to actual facts? Obama has some decent green policies, but he's not green enough: Push push push! Guantanamo is still open. Dig dig dig!! Everyone in Flint MI has been poisoned and Obama is slow to react: Why why why? There are so many honest truthful things that can be used to win a race. Trump was already a buffoon but now he looks worse than ever thanks to Palin.

peace.

Rochard 01-21-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20706645)
Obama probably knocked up her abstinent daughter twice too.

:1orglaugh

Jesus fucking Christ. I just spit out my drink.

That made my day.

dyna mo 01-21-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20706681)
Oh, so the libbies run Fox News now?

:1orglaugh

Dear brainiac,

the libbies that start threads like these love Sarah Palin.

Best,

Captain obvious.

Rob 01-21-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20706750)
But it's not a spin. Even Time Magazine

Time Magazine is almost as liberal as Rolling Stone, and that's a lot.

Quote:

Here's another:
RawStory...
Yet another UBER Liberal fish wrap.

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What Palin did was take a real tragedy...
No, she's using her son as a personal example how a failed administration is directly affecting her. Of course she talked about it at a political rally, she's a conservative Republican speaking at a Republican event. She's not going to praise Obama, just like Obama wouldn't praise the GOP to his base. It's politics, not personal.

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But besides that, she's wrong. Here is some of what Obama has done for war veterans...
My dad spent 35 years in the military, I grew up in a military family. 95% of my friends are either in the military, retired, or grew up in military families. And every single one of them would disagree with the fabricated statistics posted on whitehouse.gov (which, yep, you guessed it, is very liberal) :winkwink:

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I get it - all politicians are out to win, but why not stick to actual facts? Obama has some decent green policies, but he's not green enough: Push push push! Guantanamo is still open. Dig dig dig!! Everyone in Flint MI has been poisoned and Obama is slow to react: Why why why? There are so many honest truthful things that can be used to win a race. Trump was already a buffoon but now he looks worse than ever thanks to Palin.

peace.
It's not the facts that plague Obama. It's broken promises, flat out lies, and failed policy. He was the one that ran his campaign around closing Gitmo, but it's still open. He lied. If a black kid in Flint Michigan died, Obama would have been on Air Force One making a beeline for the family's house. And trust me, this administration has totally SHIT on veterans. I know this as FACT, and witness it on almost every level, every day of my life.

Barry-xlovecam 01-21-2016 12:47 PM

Didn't read -- don't really care. Palin is a nut-job.

blackmonsters 01-21-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706772)
Dear brainiac,

the libbies that start threads like these love Sarah Palin.

Best,

Captain obvious.

Yeah, I'm sure this thread gets more views than Fox News.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-21-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20706795)
Yeah, I'm sure this thread gets more views than Fox News.

:1orglaugh

And I'm sure you do think that.

crockett 01-21-2016 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20706678)
The idiots don't even seem to realize that THEY are the ones keeping her in the news and giving her the publicity she wants, if they never mentioned her again she would fade into obscurity except for with the small subset of far right-wing whack-a-doodles who love her. :1orglaugh


Do you have anything else you would like to blame liberals or Obama for? Perhaps your grass is not green or the sun isn't bright enough?

Rochard 01-21-2016 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706698)
She said that the current administration, starting at the top, does not appreciate veterans. That's a proven fact, not an opinion.

This is an opinion, not a fact.

But let's discuss this anyhow - You said "current administration, starting at the top".... Who exactly is that? The Veterans Administration is run by.... Wait for it.... The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs. The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs recommends legislation expanding, curtailing, or fine tuning of laws relating to Veteran's benefits. This committee also has oversight responsibility of the VA. The committee is chaired by Rep. Jeff Miller, and the ranking member is Rep Corrine Brown. They are both... You guessed it, Republicans. In fact, there are twenty-four members on this committee, 14 of which are Republicans, and 10 of which are Democrats. The United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs since 2001 has been - you guessed it - Republican (Anthony Principi, Jim Nicholson, James B. Peake, and Robert McDonald).


So when Palin says "This administration not appreciate veterans" what she really means is Republicans do not appreciate veterans. I mean, The committee that runs the VA is dominated by Republicans, as our current government in Washington DC.

But here is the real truth... If Trump was elected as President, what would change with the VA? Nothing. If Trump is elected the same twenty-four people will most likely be on the board, a handful will be replaced, and.... Business as usual. If Hillary or Bernie is elected President, is it going to have a huge impact on this board or the VA? Nope. It will be business as usual.

This is I what I hate about politics. We are taking something that should be completely bipartisan, saying the "Current administration appreciate veterans" when the truth is it's their own party who is charge of the problem.

dyna mo 01-21-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20706862)
The United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs since 2001 has been - you guessed it - Republican (Anthony Principi, Jim Nicholson, James B. Peake, and Robert McDonald).

The United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs from 2008 - 2014 was the Obama appointed Eric Shinseki.

The current United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs is the Obama appointed Robert Mcdonald.

Rob 01-21-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20706862)
This is an opinion, not a fact.

But let's discuss this anyhow - You said "current administration, starting at the top".... Who exactly is that? The Veterans Administration is run by.... Wait for it.... The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs. The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs recommends legislation expanding, curtailing, or fine tuning of laws relating to Veteran's benefits. This committee also has oversight responsibility of the VA. The committee is chaired by Rep. Jeff Miller, and the ranking member is Rep Corrine Brown. They are both... You guessed it, Republicans.

Survey Says...."BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" -- wrong.

The Department of Veterans Affairs is responsible for taking care of American vets. And who is in charge of the DOVA? Well that would be former Procter & Gamble CEO Robert McDonald. And he is...wait for it...an Obama appointee. The House Committee is more or less an oversight committee. DOVA is responsible for the day to day operations, and that is ran by an Obama appointed secretary. I wonder how much Procter & Gamble put into Obama's war chest to get that appointment?

Rob 01-21-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706871)
The United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs from 2008 - 2014 was the Obama appointed Eric Shinseki.

The current United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs is the Obama appointed Robert Mcdonald.

Beat me to it. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 01-21-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706698)
Did you actually watch the video, and listen to what she said before coming here to make a factual comment based on someone else's opinion? She never once directly blamed Obama for her son getting arrested for domestic assault. NOT ONCE. She said that the current administration, starting at the top, does not appreciate veterans. That's a proven fact, not an opinion. She lumped her son into the discussion because he's a veteran of Iraq. It's a political platform and she's trying to emphasize that Trump won't lie to veteran's families and will take care of our troops.

Look, I'm not a fan of Palin, never have been. But this is a complete spin job by the liberal media. Be intelligent, look past the spin.

How much have the Republicans pledged to spend for caring for returning soldiers? This includes jobs, healthcare, housing, disability pensions that will match their likely salaries, etc?

Or like unborn babies, once they become a problem, the Republicans want nothing to do with supporting them?

Palin is a character who appeals to middle American hicks. They love her and hate any Democrat politician, educated people and black people. So straight off the bat, Obama ain't on their Christmas Card List.

She's wheeled out by Trump, (English slang for a fart) to collect votes for him. He could wheel out a chicken, Palin talks better, marginally.

After the election, she'll go back to reality TV and probably be the Midwest equivalent to the Kardashians.

Rochard 01-21-2016 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706887)
Survey Says...."BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" -- wrong.

The Department of Veterans Affairs is responsible for taking care of American vets. And who is in charge of the DOVA? Well that would be former Procter & Gamble CEO Robert McDonald. And he is...wait for it...an Obama appointee. The House Committee is more or less an oversight committee. DOVA is responsible for the day to day operations, and that is ran by an Obama appointed secretary. I wonder how much Procter & Gamble put into Obama's war chest to get that appointment?

I am not wrong at all. I mentioned your boy Robert McDonald... He is... Republican.

Great, he was nominated by Obama. But it's run by a Republican. It has been for the past fifteen years. But of course it's Obama's fault.

Rob 01-21-2016 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20706899)
How much have the Republicans pledged to spend for caring for returning soldiers? This includes jobs, healthcare, housing, disability pensions that will match their likely salaries, etc?

I don't know if they put a number on it yet, so I can't answer that question. But the system is broken, and he [Trump] and other Republicans are pledging to fix it. The VA Hospital is a joke. Sometimes my dad has to wait months for routine appointments. He's 100% disabled (by military metrics), so some emphasis should be applied to his appointments. Just last year the DOVA secretary resigned because of a CNN investigation that revealed widespread flaws and scandal within the VA.

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Or like unborn babies, once they become a problem, the Republicans want nothing to do with supporting them?
Do you suggest we treat war veterans the same way Democrats treat unwanted babies? We can open a bunch of "Planned Veteranhood" Centers across the country. :1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-21-2016 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20706907)
I am not wrong at all. I mentioned your boy Robert McDonald... He is... Republican.

Great, he was nominated by Obama. But it's run by a Republican. It has been for the past fifteen years. But of course it's Obama's fault.

Flint's water crisis is the state Governor's fault/problem according to you and the op and others.


and more to the point, the previous Obama appointed VA secretary resigned amid the VA scandal. Obama is very aware of the neglect veterans receive, in particular when it comes to mental health.

Rochard 01-21-2016 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706871)
The United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs from 2008 - 2014 was the Obama appointed Eric Shinseki.

Who is not a Democrat or a Republican.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20706871)
The current United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs is the Obama appointed Robert Mcdonald.

Who is a Republican.

So allow me to rephrase... .

Since 2001 we have had eight Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Hershel W. Gober (no political party)
Anthony Principi (Republican)
Jim Nicholson (Republican)
Gordon H. Mansfield (no political party)
James B. Peake (Republican)
Eric Shinseki (no political party)
Sloan D. Gibson (no political party)
Robert McDonald (Republican)

Not. A. Single. Democrat.

But let's blame Palin's son's problems on Obama.

On a more serious note, who the fuck names their kid "Track"? Palin's kids's names are Bristol, Trig, Piper, Willow, and Track. Track was born to have a nervous break down, Trig will be a mass murderer, and the rest will all grow up to be strippers.

Rochard 01-21-2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20706911)
I don't know if they put a number on it yet, so I can't answer that question. But the system is broken, and he [Trump] and other Republicans are pledging to fix it. The VA Hospital is a joke. Sometimes my dad has to wait months for routine appointments. He's 100% disabled (by military metrics), so some emphasis should be applied to his appointments. Just last year the DOVA secretary resigned because of a CNN investigation that revealed widespread flaws and scandal within the VA.


Do you suggest we treat war veterans the same way Democrats treat unwanted babies? We can open a bunch of "Planned Veteranhood" Centers across the country. :1orglaugh

The Republicans are the ones in charge of the VA. They are the ones that have broken it. They are also the ones who aren't fixing it.

What is Trump going to do? He has no military experience, and no experience with the VA. But of course his lack of experience with the military and the VA and the government in general makes him qualified to fix it right?

Trump is a politician. He is going to do what everyone else does. He'll nominate someone to the position, and say it's fixed and pray it never becomes an issue.

dyna mo 01-21-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20706926)
Who is not a Democrat or a Republican.



Who is a Republican.

So allow me to rephrase... .

Since 2001 we have had eight Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Hershel W. Gober (no political party)
Anthony Principi (Republican)
Jim Nicholson (Republican)
Gordon H. Mansfield (no political party)
James B. Peake (Republican)
Eric Shinseki (no political party)
Sloan D. Gibson (no political party)
Robert McDonald (Republican)

Not. A. Single. Democrat.

But let's blame Palin's son's problems on Obama.

On a more serious note, who the fuck names their kid "Track"? Palin's kids's names are Bristol, Trig, Piper, Willow, and Track. Track was born to have a nervous break down, Trig will be a mass murderer, and the rest will all grow up to be strippers.

i think Rob's and my point is this is not a republican or democrat problem. this is a problem resulting from failed government that goes all the way to the top.

this president got it, the buck stops here, regardless of political footballs and fingerpointing.
http://i.imgur.com/lBVGTHW.jpg




and i think it's safer to state that none of us know the political affiliations of those secretaries that don't publically go otr as Republican. it's highly unlikely men of that stature are not politically affiliated.


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