what are your thoughts on how Bernie Sanders did last nite?
 

I would think it was a solid showing and his campaign does have promise but i don't know how to evaluate these things entirely accurately.


what say you?

Well, Iowa and the caucus thing is a bit confusing and not necassarily the best indicater of how a candidate will do. Bernie will do better in New Hampshire (of course) but then after that....

I think Hillary has it locked down. Bernie won't even be her VP choice. She will tell Bernie "Your issues will get attention" then totally forget about him. That would be a shame but that's what I think will happen. :(

this result says a lot more about hilary the anointed one than it says about bernie. Literally half the participants would prefer a gun supporter over hilary.

this foreshadows how she will do in a general...half her party will stay home if she is the nominee.

:2 cents:

Bernie balling like a BAWSS HOGG, OP

You're forgetting that the majority of democrat voters are a "Lesser of two evils" crowd. The evil being the republican party. They would vote for Satan himself before letting a REPUKELIKKKAN attain the white house.


IMO, OP OF DA QUOTED POST

I also heard today that some Iowans were upset that Trump blew off the last debate on Fox. Outside of Iowa it's fine to bash the system but INSIDE Iowa Trump probably lost some votes because of that move.

25% of new votes came just so they would vote for Trump, another 25% of new voters came just so they could vote for someone other than Trump LOL.
So 50% of new voters came just because of Trump.
The haters will feel their job is done and less will show in NH and Trump will win that state and go fucking bananas.

As for the op question. Hillary got all she needed to know she will win now.
The black voters did not vote for Bernie and she will kill it in the South.

I can honestly say I don't know much about Bernie. I can also say I do not know much about Hillary and her positions either. Frankly I don't take any of this too seriously until we have the two final candidates.

But honestly, this is all about marketing. It always has been. Candidates have people that do market research that decide on how nearly everything is done. I remember reading about the Kennedy Nixon debates, and how Kennedy beat Nixon only because the debate was televised - Kennedy looked young and smart and hip, who compared to Nixon looked old and stuffy.

Sanders proved Hillary has no inevitability on her side and Rubio overcame Jeb's challenge to be the mainstream Republican nominee.

Looks like Hillary vs. Rubio or

Sanders vs. Rubio vs. Bloomberg

I spoke with a friend of mine tonight who is very well connected in NY politics and has experience with Bloomberg's campaigns personally. It seems Bloomberg's plan is to wait, and if Hillary loses, immediately hire her staff and put her infrastructure to work for him... Which would make him the only independent candidate in history with a national campaign machine behind him.

Trump lacks the state to state ground game needed. Cruz is hated by more people than like him. That leaves Rubio as the best gop candidate, but I don't think he beats Sanders, Hillary or Bloomberg nationally. None of the candidates will have significant coat tails, so we are likely headed for a DOA democratic administration and very little movement from a policy POV with an opposition Congress.

Technically Clinton won, but if you measure it any other way they both did pretty much the same. I'm shocked Sanders is doing this well.

if it's posted on the internet it must be true. :thumbsup


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I would love a Bloomberg Presidency but....King Bloomberg? Hmmm....

(Bloomberg over-turned the people's wishes to limit Mayors to two terms. He did so via backroom dealings in Albany. So a handful of Bloomie's friends over turned the will of New Yorkers and we will not forget that. Thus, the "King Bloomberg" title.)

I find the guy repulsive.

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I find myself wishing Bernie Sanders was my crime fighting grampa and that we went on adventures together. doing battle against the forces of evil in old abandoned warehouses.

I think much like Trump is with the Republican establishment, Bernie is in the same situation with the Democrat powers that be.

Even democrats call him a socialist, which really is BS as he really is not a socialist but rather thinks the govt should be doing more for the people, not Boeing and Haliburton.

Even if he does well he has a tough road to win the nomination over Hillary.

Also even though he is my pick, I still think he would be in the same situation as Obama is in if elected but maybe a bit worse as congress democrats wouldn't do what he asks of them anymore than Republicans would.

That's the main problem with any "outsider" candidate (not that Bernie is an outsider). They won't get support from the established political machinery.

Bernie is, to me, like Ross Perot was - a place for people unhappy with "the system" to go and cast protest votes. But all that does is triangulate and allow a Republican or Democrat to win the Presidency with barely 40% of the vote thus not really having a mandate by the majority to govern.

Fun system, isn't it?

I am fairly suspicious of both Clinton and Cruz camps in the turn-out but that was not the question I guess.
So...
I kinda think Bernie landed better than I thought for that state.
And I suspect Hillary may have a problem yet again with the total delegate count in the end.
I'm trying to figure out which states that Bernie is likely to loose in the south that are winner takes all in the delegates. Could have a major impact.