Question about past porn business
 

I'm a researcher studying the industry and I'm looking to substantiate something I was told.

Is it true that porn sites used to offer giveaway mini vibes or bullets as a "free gift" for subscription or membership? I was told that it was used later used to prove that a legit purchase had taken place in the event of chargebacks. Does that sound right? Did anyone do this or does anyone know who used to do this?

Thanks!

I'm guessing someone lied and caused chargebacks. :upsidedow

The only thing like that that I can think of were DVDs free when you buy a magazine.

wut?


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I've never heard of that.

I can confirm that I know nothing about this ...

Maybe some company did but I've never heard of it.

Only Paul Markham can tell you what happened in the porn past.

:2 cents:

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I did hear when there was "recurring" VHS or DVD sales, once you signed for it, it was considered a sale and did make it harder to charge back.

Of course you would have to wrap it back up and put it back in the mail. Making a "return" on a recurring sale even harder.

I've been doing this since 1996 and I've never heard of this.

Not the ones I joined.I got nothing but reoccurring charges and a thanks email

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Never heard of it being done before. That being said it doesn't mean that someone who had a small never heard of paysite didn't try it. I could see it being done for a site catering to women


Wasn't there a show/convention years ago where someone was giving out mini vibes/bullets as swag to webmasters?

juicy gave me a fleshlight one year at phx forum. I think it was him that was one time a rep for them back then but I could be wrong cause I've drank a lot since then.

I hope you washed that thing well before you used it:Oh crap...

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This would not work. You can't bill for physical goods that are actually shipped with a MID that is approved for recurring subscription of digital goods. You'd be shut down just for trying it. You'd need a separate MID or terminal ID at the very least. Also, sending someone a gift or thank you letter doesn't prove anything about the origin of a card-not-present transaction.

You could potentially use a gift like that to intimidate the cardholder and claim that it was proof, and it might be about 25% effective, but it wouldn't prevent chargebacks.

It just might make overturning them a little easier - but the chargeback would still be on your record and the fine for the dispute would stand. Additionally if overturning it failed, you'd now have 2 chargebacks and 2 fines, (second chargebacks) which on top of the cost of the item and shipping would most likely not be worth it.

not heard of it

nope :2 cents:

29 Vats.

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What I do know is that people in the past would give away "free memberships" to content if you would buy a vibe.. Simply because the tangible goods where not considered as high risk at that time so the rates where much lower for processing..

Not the case anymore unfortunately..

Where are you going to publish this, if I may ask?

As a 40 year veteran, I can shed some light.

We used to give every customer who bought a video or DVD a free box.

Those buying magazines got a free brown paper bag.

A few shitty shops didn't, forcing customers to buy a newspaper to hide the porn mag.

Yes it's true, we were the innovators of giving away freebies with porn. :1orglaugh

We use black plastic bags for porn, tobacco, alcohol, paraphernalia, and anything else that you don't want people to see. If shops didn't give bags away for "free" then no one would buy anything..

I thought your answer would have been better..

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Yes, and Im not sure.....

The bullets, Ive never heard that. I do know some people that would send a cd-rom with a few porn images on it to the billing address. Costs under $2 to make and ship. Fed ex shows up and says "Package for John"....people just sign, assuming its something for them, or something they ordered.

In the small print of the sites terms it would say, for $39.95 per mo. you are BUYING a disk of images, shipped to you once every 6 months, the websites are a "free gift".

SUPER shady

Doesn't sound good at all!
This is more or less the same construction as what I was talking about.. only this would be the shady way to do it.. :(