Hey Mark Prince, crockett, bronco67...Check Out How Shady The DNC Is:
 

So Clinton and Bernie basically tied in Iowa. They tossed a coin 6 times for 6 different areas of Iowa.
"Magically" Clinton won ALL 6 coin tosses to "win" Iowa.

Then Bernie DESTROYS her in New Hampshire! 60% to 38%.

So Hillary and Bernie should be real close in numbers of delegates with Sanders perhaps having a few more.

NOPE!!!!!!

The Democrats have their "SUPER DELEGATES" which are totally unaffected by people voting. :disgust:disgust:disgust:disgust

So the current count of delegates after the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries is:
Clinton: 394
Sanders: 44

Can you fucking believe the backroom bullshit that is going on with the Democrat Party???

That is fucking outrageous and SHOULD be the lead story on the mainstream media.
But it's not.

See for yourself guys. The Democrat Party is just as fucking corrupt as the Republican Party...maybe even worse:
how many delegates does clinton have? - Google Search

Robbie, it was even worse than that.

if you get a chance, read these articles from very liberal media outlets on how bad it got:::

Something smells in the Democratic Party

It?s almost over for Hillary: This election is a mass insurrection against a rigged system - Salon.com

Is that all you've got? I would make a list of the shady shit Republicans do, which affect a whole lot more people -- but I don't have all fucking night to type.

The DNC is so fucking elitist. I am so glad I left that party.

From their decades of corruption and scandal in Chicago (the Daley dynasty) right up to this total and complete "fuck you" to the voters.

Seriously? You're okay with that?
They are completely disregarding the votes and installing Hillary and fucking Sanders

was reading that ... stinks

so much for democracy..... maybe you guys need to be '' liberated '' :2 cents:

it appears that is what's happening. hillary is making huge blunders that are backfiring and adding legions of Sanders Supporters.

both parties are getting bitch slapped by john q public

It's about time too. People are finally opening their eyes. (well, most people...bronco67 thinks it's just fine for the DNC to do this).

No I'm not...but why not make a big deal about Republicans Gerrymandering districts to steal elections, or about Republican state administrations making up all tons of new rules for voting that affect mainly democratic turnout, or about a Republican administration poisoning water in a mostly low income city to save a little money?

You are deflecting from the conversation about Bernie Sanders and the American people being fucked out of the election (the very foundation of our "freedom").

But just so you know (because you don't)...the Mayor of Flint who made the decision to switch water sources that poisoned the people of Flint..was a DEMOCRAT.
Google him up for yourself and stop being so ignorant. His name was Dayne Walling

So now you want to start playing the blame game for a state that is run by Republicans.

I'm sure you're googling everything you can find that holds up your idea that a democrat is responsible for that mess.

Don't give a fuck what you think about Michigan.

Why don't you at least show a little bit of concern for the topic at hand. The DNC is trying to install Hillary over Sanders with zero fucks given about the voters.

Come on man...that is total bullshit and you know it.

it's not about republicans vs democrats... wake up

Exactly.

You need to stop being so ignorant and running to GFY to post crap you heard in the media (the same media you claim to mistrust so much).

The Mayor of Flint did not make the decision to switch water sources. That decision was made by an emergency manager. Who was appointed by the Governor to run Flint's affairs as they were broke. The city council was able to weigh in and vote because the director of the water authority insisted. Based on the advice of the emergency manager and the Governors office they voted 7-1 in favor of making the Flint River their water source.

Well...I guess it's easy to see that most people on GFY don't give a fuck about their freedom or their vote.

Let's just crown Hillary as the establishment Queen of the U.S.
No voting required.

So we go from how a Dem candidate is getting fucked over to an anti Republican thread? Lol lol lol

That's the way that people with blinders on react to everything. They are like robots for the DNC. It's disgusting.

And I feel just the opposite. I was a Republican, which now seems to me is mostly "rich old white people".

I don't get it.

The main person with blinders on is you. You claim to be independent however only repeat talking points for the right. You distrust the media and how they're so 'establishment' yet then run here and post every anti-Democrat article you can. Then when called out on it usually being false or misleading you switch gears and blame the media and call out both parties.

In regards to your initial post.

- Iowa allows for a coin toss in rare circumstances where a precinct ends in a tie.
- The Des Moines Register reported that there were 6 coin flips and Clinton won all 6. However they have since updated that article and in actuality there were 7 coin flips and Sanders won 6 of them. A subsequent editorial has requested an audit.
- Those 7 'coin flips' do not turn into delegates for either candidate. They instead factor into the allotment formula Iowa uses to issue the actual delegates.

On to the Superdelegates which you clearly do not understand.

- Superdelegates are nothing new. They have been around since the 80's and were set up so the Establishment has more of a say in the process. They are made up of former Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Governors, Congress, Mayors, etc.
- Of course Superdelegates are going to support Clinton over Sanders. Sanders was an Independent just a couple of years ago. Likewise Clinton also had a 3-1 pledged super delegate advantage over Obama in 2008.
- Only 15% of the total delegates available are Superdelegates.
- Superdelegates are only pledged to a candidate. They've either been asked or publicly stated who they will vote for. They can change and often do.
- They change because they follow the popular vote in the end. There is zero chance Sanders wins the popular vote and these Superdelegates give Clinton the win.

So that is why the 'mainstream media' is not reporting on 'the backroom bullshit'. Because they actually have an understanding of how it works and realize its beyond transparent.

I love the smell of cognitive dissonance in the morning. :winkwink:




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Once again Robbie shows us how unbiased he is by once again singling out Democrats while saying nothing of shady shit Republicans are doing.

Perhaps Robbie can slip in a blame Obama quicky or a Hillary is the antichrist one liner, then remind us that he is Mr Independent and unquestionably always right.

It's quite clear to those of us lacking bias that Robbie is simply pointing out that the Democratic party is just as shady as the Republican party.

The gfyers mentioned in the title tend to shine the spotlight on shady Republicans, this thread and others like it balances that out.

You're either unbiased enough to admit that and appreciate it or not.

LOL

Gerrymandering at it's best is called Sanctuary Cities, that's the democrats

And most of the low income cities in the US are controlled by democrats, you know the people that promised things would be better if you voted for them???

Mark, if you looked at that google link you will see that Hillary has "won" 394 delegates to Sanders 44 delegates.

Sanders tied her in Iowa and beat her decisively in New Hampshire. He should be ahead of her in delegates at this point.
The people voted.

Instead you see the numbers...those numbers are there because the Democrats use "super delegates" who are chosen by the party.
They are free to pledge themselves to whomever they choose...regardless of what voters want.

If you look closely at this link: how many delegates does clinton have? - Google Search

You will see on the graph that the light blue shade represents delegates VOTED on by the people.
The dark blue shade represents "super delegates" who are pledged to Hillary in backdoor deals.

That is shady as fuck and is robbing Sanders and the people who voted for him.

To compare...click on the "Republican" tab at the top of the graph. You will see no "Super Delegates" there. Trump is leading with 17 delegates won by getting votes.

That is how democracy is supposed to work.

And not only that...but in the Iowa vote, Clinton and Sanders were tied in 6 districts.
So the Democrat Party decided to flip a coin for each of the 6 districts to award the delegates.
"Magically" Hillary won ALL six coin flips!!!

Am I crazy, or is that pure out cheating by Hillary Clinton and robbing Sanders and his voters?

And the worst part is...this isn't even being brought up on the news.
They are too busy gasping at Trump calling Cruz a "pussy".
Meanwhile...the Democrat Party establishment is fucking over Bernie Sanders and trying to ensure Clinton as the nominee.

Now do you get it?

How am I not right about this?

I just gave the link that shows it: how many delegates does clinton have? - Google Search

Are you saying that link to the actual facts is wrong? And everything is rainbows and unicorns?

Not sure how being white and rich and old has anything to do with anything in this topic.
But if you look in the mirror you will realize that you are white and old...just not rich. :1orglaugh

But seriously...why would you want to bother with either of these party's? The two of them are responsible for what our country has become: 20 trillion in debt, wars, occupying other country's, spying on our own citizens, more people in prison in the U.S. than any other country in the history of mankind, massive govt. corruption, etc.

If you even do vote...please think about doing some research on the candidates you are thinking about. And then explore other options too.
You might find a candidate out there who is more in line with your thoughts.

If everybody just keeps voting Democrat and Republican then nothing will ever change for the better.

Bronco, give it up ... you are wrong , as all others supporting this process ...

The super-delegates thing is a slap in the face to free election ... it is basically packing the deck , trumping the cards .
Voters in N.H. did want Sanders to have more delegates then Clinton, as their vote showed .
The DNC thinks and acts otherwise .

No I don't get your point. Superdelgates are unique to the democratic party which is why Trump has none. Also, super delegates are legal and a part of the US voting and political process so saying that Clinton is robbing Sanders isn't a true statement I don't think. Interesting though.

Maybe if the Republicans had something similar, they wouldn't have such a fucking clown show. Ending up with Trump? Hard to defend that fuckelberry.

Thats President Trump to you small fry.

the two party system is corrupt, two sides of the same coin etc. ... but parrot right wing talking points and vote republican.

:1orglaugh

I'm confused, I thought Bernie won the last primary ......


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Not in a million years. This country is not that stupid. Yet.

I'm honestly surprised the democrats on this board are not up in arms. My liberal friends on Facebook are having a total shit fit. I had a meeting last night with a guy I do business with, he is a big liberal and he spent 20 minutes venting about it. I'm not a democrat and even I find it disgusting.

Is it because Robbie started the thread?

Has to be.

Remember...on GFY if you don't agree 100% with what Democrats do then you are automatically a Republican.

I'm voting for Gary Johnson by the way.
But don't let facts stand in the way of the people on here who treat politics like some kind of team sport.

It's because the shit has been going on for years and the Op now decides to post about it. Funny how he didn't post when one person won the popular vote but lost due to electoral college. In the end it's all the same bull shit. people posting how another party is fucking people while theirs does the same thing. All sheep except one has blue and the other has red wool

that and because they are disingenuous, well at least ********** and crockett are, still sorting out bronco67

********** doesn't even participate in the democratic process in his own country, he's only concerned with pointing at and laughing at American conservatives, i.e., those who don't view the world exactly as he does, as Robbie pointed out, if ********** disagrees with you, you are a conservative and are what's wrong with the world. it's actually not surprising he's not the least bit upset.

crockett is a self-proclaimed "conservative" troll.

Actually no its not quite like that, because Robbie claims he is independent over and over and over again and claims to be unbiased all the time.

Meanwhile all he ever does is parrot right wing talking points and constantly bitch and moan about democrats and liberals while always making excuses for conservatives and Republicans.

Robbie is just another far right wing nut, who has convinced himself his ideas are middle of the road.. He lives in his little bubble and I'm sure he actually thinks his views are unbiased..

Yes, Clinton is playing dirty tricks and yes the DNC is supporting her. Just like the Republican party is doing.

Both parties are doing it but it only fits Robbie's narrative to bitch and whine and democrats and liberals.

i don't see it that way. the thing y'all don't realize is you don't look for ways to understand, you look for ways to misunderstand.

you're the ones taking his points in a vacuum. this thread in no way implies GOP is squeaky clean or even less shady than the DNC. it's simply showing that shady shit goes down with the DNC.

The other thing is both you and ********** have Bernie Sanders as your guy, yet this thread is about how the DNC is royally fucking your guy in the ass without lube and that not only doesn't upset you, it's not even worthy of acknowledging.

Love is in the AIR

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That's beyond ridiculous, surreal, so much for people's choice.

Can someone enlighten me re: these super delegates, what is this about?

I would take it as a basic principle of voting that every vote should carry the same weight?

You seem to complain a lot.

We've always been in debt. It goes up every year. And every year and we are like "oh my god". We started at a billion dollars with Reagan, then Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Obama. No matter who we vote into office next, the debt will climb.

Wars? What wars are we currently involved in? Seems we have moved out of Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't recall us invading any countries under Obama. Yeah, we are bombing ISIS, but whatever; There is always some kind of hotspot or another.

Occupying other countries? Which ones. Did I miss that? I mean, I read the newspapers every day. So let's discuss.... Foreign countries with the most amount of US troops are.... In order.... Japan (48k), Germany (37k), and South Korea (27k). I guess you could say we occupied Japan and Germany in the 1940s, and Korea in the 1950s, but I would hardly call this an occupation.

Spying on our own citizens? Yeah, that's new, right? I used to work for Ma Bell in the 1980s managing a directory assistance office which was housed in a regional switching office - and FBI had two full time agents stationed there. They weren't there for "office security". LOL.

More people in prison? Yeah, and a low crime rate too. I am okay with that.

Massive government corruption? I must have missed that in the news too. No one in my home town has been arrested for corruption. What corruption is going on and why isn't anyone being arrested? Do we really have a problem with corruption? Can you show me were we have a problem with corruption?

I'll be voting for anyone other than Trump so that's that.

Somewhere along the line a portion of our citizens have become bitter and angry, and upset about everything. Some people are talking about "how bad things are". Things were bad at the end of the Bush White House, and in the beginning of the Obama administration. You can't argue things were horrible at the end of the Bush administration, and things are obviously much better now.

I think things are pretty good right now. Unemployment is down, housing is creeping back up, construction is moving forward. Our economy is recovering, we not at war with anyone.... And more people than ever before have healthcare.

What more can we ask for?

Of course you don't see it that way, because your only objective is to troll. I mean hell, at least I'm honest about it when I do it.

It's not worth really discussing as it doesn't matter. Super delegates have never decided the Democrat's nominee. They have simply pledged their support for a certain candidate. Since Super delegates were created to give the establishment of the party a say in the process. Of course they always support the established candidate.

These delegates often change their support and it always coincides with the popular vote.

Should this process be changed? Yes. But not because it fucks one candidate over another. But because it gives ammunition to the other party and people that do not understand the process (see this thread).

I thought Bernie Sanders was YOUR guy?

wrong.

no need to libtardize my post. i simply disagreed with you and articulated my view. you need only look at the variety of my posts and threads and topics i participate in here to see i'm not here to troll.