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Horatio Caine 02-22-2016 04:15 PM

A 6-year-old is shot dead, and a community demands change
 
You think "black lives matter" peeps will show up for this one?


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Enough is enough.

Through the tears, through the impassioned speeches, through the demands for justice, this is what the people want. This is what they demand.

A day after 6-year-old King Carter was killed by a drive-by shooter??s bullets, a community in Northwest Miami-Dade emerged angry. And determined.

Sunday??s rally brought out neighbors and leaders, all in the same frame of mind: sadness mixed with resolve.

??This is not a single person's problem. This is not a single Zip code's problem,? said Miami-Dade school Superintendent Alberto Carvalho, who broke down in tears.
A 6-year-old is shot dead, and a community demands change | Miami Herald

TheSquealer 02-22-2016 04:18 PM

Wait... i read the article but did not see where Black Lives Matter got involved. Thats strange. I thought they really cared about.... eh. never mind.

L-Pink 02-22-2016 04:34 PM

Where's Rev Al?

That's right, ain't no money to be made there.


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Rob 02-22-2016 04:39 PM

I've been to that part of Miami. I bought a cup of coffee and paid with a $20. The clerk ignored me, so I demanded change!

georgeyw 02-22-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20735968)
I've been to that part of Miami. I bought a cup of coffee and paid with a $20. The clerk ignored me, so I demanded change!

What ?

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Rob 02-22-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20735991)
What ?

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The coffee was only $2. I paid with a $20, but he ignored me after I paid. So I demanded change.

Grapesoda 02-22-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20735949)
You think "black lives matter" peeps will show up for this one?




A 6-year-old is shot dead, and a community demands change | Miami Herald

One thing is very clear here... I can't help

Horatio Caine 02-22-2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20735968)
I've been to that part of Miami.

Big question is "Why?" :Oh crap

CDSmith 02-22-2016 07:38 PM

So the krux of the matter aside from the senseless killing is that it's a black-on-black crime and thus the Black Lives Matter crowd is choosing to remain strangely silent, yes? I've been looking over the 'comments' section below that article and anyone who posts anything even hinting of this or even obliquely commenting about it are being slammed as racists.

Ask me 30 years ago if I thought that in 2016 there would be a larger racial divide in the US than there was in the mid-80's and I'd have very likely said no. Yet here we are...

OneHungLo 02-22-2016 08:17 PM

I wonder if BLM will branch off and start a 'start snitching' group. You know to combat all the black on black violence and end the code of silence regarding crimes like the one in the article the op posted.

Horatio Caine 02-22-2016 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20736094)
I wonder if BLM will branch off and start a 'start snitching' group. You know to combat all the black on black violence and end the code of silence regarding crimes like the one in the article the op posted.

Just like 95% of other blacks he blames everyone else for black on black crime. Especially illegal Mexicans who work 14 hours a day.

MiamiBoyz 02-22-2016 08:51 PM

Miami is a toilet bowl full of turds that needs to be flushed.

RyuLion 02-22-2016 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20736123)
Miami is a toilet bowl full of turds that needs to be flushed.

Yeap, tons of shitty drivers too..:2 cents:

JesseQuinn 02-23-2016 01:51 AM

in the coverage I've seen of this tragedy I view a mostly Black community (and Black community leaders) expressing grief and outrage over a profound loss. The entire reaction is in keeping with the praxis of the movement y'all disparage

sickening that some peeps choose to take cheap shots at a movement aimed at challenging systemic injustice (systems that would have impacted negatively on King Carter had he lived long enough to experience them) on the back of a murdered child

golf clap

rest in peace little one

Paul Markham 02-23-2016 02:16 AM

If the anti-abortionists wanted to save lives, there's a very easy way. Make guns harder for morons to acquire.

CurrentlySober 02-23-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20736045)
The coffee was only $2. I paid with a $20, but he ignored me after I paid. So I demanded change.

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20736069)
Big question is "Why?" :Oh crap

Yes Rob... Why did he ignore you?

just a punk 02-23-2016 03:32 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XELTNfMcvM...s1600/GUNS.jpg

L-Pink 02-23-2016 09:53 AM

^^^^^ Fuck off Ivan ^^^^^

makko2 02-23-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 20736225)
in the coverage I've seen of this tragedy I view a mostly Black community (and Black community leaders) expressing grief and outrage over a profound loss. The entire reaction is in keeping with the praxis of the movement y'all disparage

sickening that some peeps choose to take cheap shots at a movement aimed at challenging systemic injustice (systems that would have impacted negatively on King Carter had he lived long enough to experience them) on the back of a murdered child

golf clap

rest in peace little one

Well said. I agree 100%. The idea of BLM is really directed at unjust law enforcement incidents concerning suspected racial prompting. I'm not sure why there is a large misdirected notion by observers that the movement is about anything else. Makes no sense a child's death gets dragged into something it should not.

pornguy 02-23-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736275)

Might want to check out the stats from Mexico before you post that.

And Guns are Illegal as fuck in Mexico.

pornguy 02-23-2016 11:31 AM

In Mexico, annual deaths resulting from firearms total

2014: 13,50513
2013: 16,119
2012: 18,598
2011: 20,870
2010: 20,491
2009: 14,661
2008: 10,434
2007: 6,787

Been a few years since its been as low as the US and in general Guns are illegal in Mexico.

Out of an estimated 15 Million of them 2 to 3 million are registered and those belong to cops, Politicians and the bodygaurds etc.

Guns in Mexico ? Firearms, gun law and gun control

EonBlue 02-23-2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 20736585)
Might want to check out the stats from Mexico before you post that.

Or Venezuela, that socialist "utopia" that Bernie Sanders wants to model the US after.



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candyflip 02-23-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736275)

Russia doesn't even bother to break down their murders, so who knows.

The U.S. Has More Guns, But Russia Has More Murders : Parallels : NPR

Horatio Caine 02-23-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20736646)
Russia doesn't even bother to break down their murders, so who knows.

The U.S. Has More Guns, But Russia Has More Murders : Parallels : NPR

Boris will blame it on instability and anti terror in Caucasus region. Of course its 100% bullshit and highest murder rates per 100K are in Moscow and in Eastern part of Russia. I suspect hard liquor is the one to blame.

brassmonkey 02-23-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 20736594)
In Mexico, annual deaths resulting from firearms total

2014: 13,50513
2013: 16,119
2012: 18,598
2011: 20,870
2010: 20,491
2009: 14,661
2008: 10,434
2007: 6,787

Been a few years since its been as low as the US and in general Guns are illegal in Mexico.

Out of an estimated 15 Million of them 2 to 3 million are registered and those belong to cops, Politicians and the bodygaurds etc.

Guns in Mexico ? Firearms, gun law and gun control

because that's where the drugs are made! people think they can take from cartels! which is a big mistake :2 cents::2 cents:

Google Expert 02-23-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736275)

Where did you pull that out of? Your ass?

TheSquealer 02-23-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 20736225)
in the coverage I've seen of this tragedy I view a mostly Black community (and Black community leaders) expressing grief and outrage over a profound loss. The entire reaction is in keeping with the praxis of the movement y'all disparage

sickening that some peeps choose to take cheap shots at a movement aimed at challenging systemic injustice (systems that would have impacted negatively on King Carter had he lived long enough to experience them) on the back of a murdered child

golf clap

rest in peace little one

Uhmm... yeah. A "movement" that ignores with a near 100% track record of blacks causing the unreal volume of black on black crime, black on black murder and black on black violent assaults which make up nearly 100% of the "problems" blacks face in terms of safety and security to spend endless effort calling out a single cop involved in a single incident.

So fuck you and your "cheap shots" bullshit.

Al Sharpton isn't out protesting a black death when its at the hands of a black killer.... ever. We don't hear about "Black Lives Matter" when its the 100s and 1000s of daily black on black crimes. Thats the only "systemic" thing going on in this issue.

All lives should matter. But if you're going to single out "black lives" to make a point, then at least be fucking honest about the problems and the solutions, not point the finger at a random incident which is statistically irrelevant to the actual problems.

Sly 02-23-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20736798)
because that's where the drugs are made! people think they can take from cartels! which is a big mistake :2 cents::2 cents:

They started making all of the drugs in Mexico?

just a punk 02-23-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20736646)
Russia doesn't even bother to break down their murders, so who knows.

The U.S. Has More Guns, But Russia Has More Murders : Parallels : NPR

We have North Caucasus with a permanent anti-radical Islamist war since 90s and it makes 90% of homicide in Russia. It's like Gaza Strip in Israel.







this + 1001 other videos about that. Since North Caucasus is a part of Russia, a homicide rate there is a part of homicide rate for the whole country.

On the other hand, a homicide rate in Moscow is the same as say in Berlin (not even comparable with the one in NYC for example).

As about the guns. Here you can get a permission within two weeks. If you have no criminal past and you are not a junkie/alcoholic/psycho, you can legally buy your own AK47 in any gun store here.

brassmonkey 02-23-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20736914)
They started making all of the drugs in Mexico?

90% or more or the street drugs are columbia, south america and mexico(in south american area region)

just a punk 02-23-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20736502)
^^^^^ Fuck off Ivan ^^^^^

Meth...

http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1602/96/f3aa740bc6b8.jpg

Horatio Caine 02-23-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736926)
We have North Caucasus with a permanent anti-radical Islamist war since 90s and it makes 90% of homicide in Russia. It's like Gaza Strip in Israel.


this + 1001 other videos about that. Since North Caucasus is a part of Russia, a homicide rate there is a part of homicide rate for the whole country.

On the other hand, a homicide rate in Moscow is the same as say in Berlin (not even comparable with the one in NYC for example).

As about the guns. Here you can get a permission within two weeks. If you have no criminal past and you are not a junkie/alcoholic/psycho, you can legally buy your own AK47 in any gun store here.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What did I tell you? fucking idiot..
Google Translate

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60-70% of crimes in Russia, including killings, takes place on the piano Kitchen-domestic violence, - says Igor Turnin, retired police colonel. - The most frequent instruments of crime - you will not believe: stools, knives, crystal vases and pans. The most common "killer motive" - ​​the stress on the family background of the family holiday, just drinking. "
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Google Translate

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As the rating, the lowest number of crimes per 1,000 residents in the I half of 2011 was registered in the Chechen Republic (only 1.9 crimes per 1,000 inhabitants), followed by the Republic of Dagestan (2.3), the third place from the end of the rating, according to Rosstat, takes another region of the North Caucasus - Ingushetia (2.7 crimes per 100 inhabitants). In five of the safest regions also Ryazan region and Karachay-Cherkess Republic. Moscow and St. Petersburg occupy in the ranking fairly low 59 th and 70 th places with indicators.

L-Pink 02-23-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736951)
Meth...


Vodka soaked peasant in-breeding .......


http://i.imgur.com/vuMUvj5.jpg


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JesseQuinn 02-23-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20736909)
Uhmm... yeah. A "movement" that ignores with a near 100% track record of blacks causing the unreal volume of black on black crime, black on black murder and black on black violent assaults which make up nearly 100% of the "problems" blacks face in terms of safety and security to spend endless effort calling out a single cop involved in a single incident.

So fuck you and your "cheap shots" bullshit.

Al Sharpton isn't out protesting a black death when its at the hands of a black killer.... ever. We don't hear about "Black Lives Matter" when its the 100s and 1000s of daily black on black crimes. Thats the only "systemic" thing going on in this issue.

All lives should matter. But if you're going to single out "black lives" to make a point, then at least be fucking honest about the problems and the solutions, not point the finger at a random incident which is statistically irrelevant to the actual problems.

First off, da fuck does Sharpton have to do with this? I swear he's like a shill for y'all at this point, an easy target to deflect attention away from the real work being done by those actually invested in creating a better future, for all of us.

In terms of 'Black on Black' violence (I'll hold my tongue on that and adopt your parlance), while I appreciate the support from makko he's not entirely correct. BLM is about more than fighting against law enforcement brutality. It's about challenging the entire status quo that allows these conditions to occur, and reproduce, over and over. If you don't see the problem not surprising, the beauty of systemic injustice is that it's not readily evident to those not negatively impacted by it.

As to “a random incident”? Don't even know where to start with that. I suppose if one were looking at the history of the world in eons absolutely, these repeated occurrences of state-sanctioned oppression and violence all over the nation, decade after decade, originating from the same twisted social conditions would be a random statistical anomaly.

My central point though: 'Black on Black' crime (in the gang-related sense of the word you mean it) is something the movement is striving to resolve, by fighting the conditions that cause this in the first place. nothing is being 'ignored', it's fucking central to the cause because none of this ish occurs in isolation.

All lives should matter. Would be really fucking cool if we as a society and series of institutional structures could achieve that.

As to the 'cheap shot'? Totally stand by what I wrote. Until I posted not a single person in the thread even acknowledged that a life was lost here, instead it was mockery of a movement that is not responsible for this death, that is actually fighting to create a safer future.

As to the 'fuck you', expected a higher level of rebuttal

amani

candyflip 02-23-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20736926)
We have North Caucasus with a permanent anti-radical Islamist war since 90s and it makes 90% of homicide in Russia. It's like Gaza Strip in Israel.

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We have 12% of our population committing 85% of the gun related murders. We can explain away a bunch of murders too. Doesn't change that fact that they are committed within our border, much like those in the Northern Caucasus. :winkwink:

Horatio Caine 02-23-2016 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20737116)
We have 12% of our population committing 85% of the gun related murders. We can explain away a bunch of murders too. Doesn't change that fact that they are committed within our border, much like those in the Northern Caucasus. :winkwink:

60% of Russian murders have been committed during domestic disputes or drunken brawls between wedding parties :1orglaugh Their "Caucasus region" is far less dangerous than our ghettos.

TheSquealer 02-23-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 20737111)
My central point though: 'Black on Black' crime (in the gang-related sense of the word you mean it) is something the movement is striving to resolve, by fighting the conditions that cause this in the first place. nothing is being 'ignored', it's fucking central to the cause because none of this ish occurs in isolation.

Yes, Black Lives Matter is talking non stop about black on black crime which is the true plague of the black community in every single city across the nation... said no one, ever.


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