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Paul Markham 03-03-2016 05:42 AM

Things I like about Trump and some I don't.
 
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1. Torture is back on the table

The presidential hopeful has vowed to bring back waterboarding, an interrogation technique which has been banned as torture in the US. It simulates drowning.

He has promised to bring in other forms of torture that are "a hell of a lot worse" than waterboarding, too.
This makes the US the bad guy so good propaganda dor terrorist.

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2. Gulf states will be made to pay for a "safe zone" for Syrians in the Middle East

He wants to build a "safe zone" for Syrian refugees in Syria. But Gulf states would have to pay for it.

He has said the United States should first deal with Isis before addressing President Bashar al-Assad's future, saying: "We have to do one thing at a time."
Why does he think he can force the Gulf States to pay for it? If they cared about the refugees they would stop funding the terrorists.

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3. Pharmaceuticals companies should be afraid

Mr Trump has claimed he could save the government $300 billion by negotiating better prices with drug companies, interestingly.

He has not said exactly how.
Good idea, how will he get it past the paid for politicians?

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4. Corporate tax would be reduced to 15 per cent instead of 35 per cent

Mr Trump would cut corporate tax by more than half. He would also reduce the number of tax brackets to four, instead of seven, and only allow a top marginal tax rate of 25 per cent.

While he said the plan is fully worked out, the Tax Foundation, an independent policy research group, has said it would cost more than $10 trillion over the next decade.
So borrowing will climb faster.

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5. No one would be "ripping off" the US

Mr Trump claims he would let countries know that it does not pay to snub US exports, or move out of the country and try to sell exports back into it.

So he intends, for example, to place a 35 per cent tarrif on one company that makes air conditioners which decided to move to Mexico instead of being in the US.

He wants to do the same to Ford Motor Corp, for the same reason but because of motor vehicles this time.

And he would designate China a "currency manipulator" and put duties on its exports â?? as well chase up a World Trade Orgnisation cause looking at the Chinese government subsidising exporters.

He has also complained that Japan, Vietnam and India are keeping out some US exports.
Absolutely agree. :thumbsup

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6. The Education Department would be cut

The man who recently said he "loved the poorly educated because we're smart and we're loyal" wants to try to reduce the country's £19 trillion deficit with cuts to education.

He would cut the Environmental Protection Agency for the same reason.
Insanity.

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7. Obamacare is out

Senior citizens and low income Americans would still get Medicaid and Medicare. Older people would also retain Social Security retirement benefits.

Yet he would still make insurers give coverage to people with preexisting medical conditions, which was a central tenet of Obamacare.
Adopting the system the rest of the modern world has would be easier. The problem with Obama Care is the suppliers of the care are setting the prices. Like with drug and treatment costs.

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8. Not even a green card will help you get work in the US

Mr Trump would end "birthright citizenship" for children born in the United States to illegal immigrants â?? and deport the 11 million undocumented people living in America.

This is despite the controversy over his reported use of illegal Polish workers with no social security or regular pay cheques when constructing Trump Tower more than 30 years ago.

He would also "pause" new green cards and make employers offer jobs to US workers first.
Absolutely, not only are we exporting jobs, we're importing cheap labour. Problem is long term if he cuts education. Think about it.

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9. The Chinese had better watch out

Mr Trump would apparently increase the size of the US military to make it "so strong, so powerful that nobody's going to mess with us."

To that end, he would boost the US military presence in the East and South China seas to "discourage Chinese adventurism," according to his website.
The US had done its utmost to make China a World Power we now have to fear. About time, someone said so. Only problem is affording the "so strong, so powerful that nobody's going to mess with us." Armed Forces are very expensive. Cutting income by 50% and doing this will bankrupt the EU.

10. Build a Wall.no need to, just fine anyone who uses illegal labour so much the fine deters the crime. Like when his company uses illegal workers. Doing this will take millions off benefits, raise wages and prices. Still good in the long run.

Barry-xlovecam 03-03-2016 08:01 AM

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1. Torture is back on the table
Descending to the lowest common denominator of inhuman behavior?
Barbaric behavior?


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2. Gulf states will be made to pay for a "safe zone" for Syrians in the Middle East

He wants to build a "safe zone" for Syrian refugees in Syria. But Gulf states would have to pay for it.
More of Trump's verbal diarrhoea ... Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan are bearing most of the real burden on the ground. The US and EU are assisting financially in their own interests -- prevention of mass emigration and a refugee infusion of terrorists. The Gulf States are in financial turmoil currently running in deficit budget. This will solve nothing -- the problems are made by all parties in the conflict -- all parties should bear their proportionate burden. The EU is paying disproportionately with the emigrant wave for reason of proximity, social policy and shared responsibility.

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3. Pharmaceuticals companies should be afraid

Mr Trump has claimed he could save the government $300 billion by negotiating better prices with drug companies, interestingly.

He has not said exactly how.
He did today, Healthcare Reform | Donald J Trump for President ,re-importation of patent drugs sold at reduced price in places like the UK and Canada. Allowing their re-importation at a markup back to their country of origin -- a brain dead idea. Drugs should be sold at their fair price in the USA and not at a higher price than negotiated export prices. This is fair trade too. Abusive trade policy allowed by the US government needs to be rescinded by law. Look at it this way -- death is a part of population control -- if you cannot pay the fair USA price of a USA product -- invent your own. This should in to way affect world-wide patent treaty -- the USA will continue to respect the treaties it is inscribed to and enforce their terms.


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4. Corporate tax would be reduced to 15 per cent instead of 35 per cent
You mean the deficit/debt would climb faster?
Dividends are taxed twice -- they, dividends of USA domiciled and tax paying corporations, should be distributed tax-free -- this would stimulate investment in the USA, recapitalize USA business, and create new jobs.


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5. No one would be "ripping off" the US

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Absolutely agree.
Bunch of feel-good-rhetoric pandering to Trump's assembly of a downwardly mobile and an angry voting block. Free trade works. The economy of production will always find the most productive and cost effective scenario.


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6. The Education Department would be cut

Insanity.
The educational system in the USA is Federal, State, and to a lesser extent, locally, regulated and funded. There are systemic problems with the education system of schools and universities in the USA. We, as USA citizens, are not competitive with educations and an infrastructure for a post-industrial economy. We are not prepared for the jobs and industry of the future. You cannot relive the past.


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7. Obamacare is out
True but the rest that was published today contradicts some of Trump's earlier statements.
see: the latest ''revision'', Healthcare Reform | Donald J Trump for President

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8. Not even a green card will help you get work in the US
The only real native americans ( first peoples) have red skin. If Trump were a true nativist he would have a platform of returning the land to the American Indians and going back to Shittsville -- where we all came from to prosper in the Great American Nation.

This is xenophobic, racist and in violation of the American ideals and also the laws of this land -- starting with the US Constitution and the 14th Amendment ...

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9. The Chinese had better watch out
Picking a fight and a trade war with nation of 1.38 Billion people -- dumb as dirt.

The Chinese are likely to say: Fuck you Trump! We are calling in the USA bond debt we own -- we want our money back.

The repayment of the US debt is guaranteed by the US Constitution and the 14th Amendment. You cannot screw your creditors like Trump likes to do with Trump's corporate bankruptcies so there are only 2 alternatives.
  1. Suspend the US Constitution, the very same Constitution President Trump took an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"
  2. Pay-off the Chinese and increase the deficit to the point of deep recession or even a depression.

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10. Build a Wall.no need to, just fine anyone who uses illegal labour so much the fine deters the crime. Like when his company uses illegal workers. Doing this will take millions off benefits, raise wages and prices. Still good in the long run.
Build a wall will be "Mr. Tangerine Man" Trump's answer to US Foreign Policy decisions and any other international dispute.

Trump can be the CEO of his fantasy and fly away in Hair Force One with his minions in the cargo hold :2 cents:-- GTFO

Paul Markham 03-03-2016 08:19 AM

Agree with you on most things. Except the Free Trade and Migration. At some point they have to change, or we won't have enough people to sell to.

Barry-xlovecam 03-03-2016 09:08 AM

Paul I have two outlooks;

AC Webconnecting Holding, my ''employer'' is a small multi-national corporation that derives its income from a global market -- we have no shortage of people to sell.
I have a local interest, being a US Citizen, living in Michigan, watching the downwardly mobile lose their old industrial economy blue-collar jobs, as the disruptive past 40 years played out. Many were able to adapt and prosper, and some just did not have the ability, or did not make the effort, to transcend to the new environment.

They had little education and no real vocational training. These were the less intelligent or the lazy. They became the downardly mobile. We cannot eat them so we are stuck with keeping them. If you are flipping burgers or stocking shelves because your industrial low-skilled job was offshored I really have no pity for you -- you just didn't have it to adapt and bootstrap yourself up. As an example: GM had a training program to teach displaced assembly-line workers new vocational skills -- most assigned to these programs, that were partially federally funded retraining programs, did not succeed -- to this day the jobs are hard to fill; mechanics, automotive technicians, electricians, other skilled trades.

For those you that exited high school in the late 80s and 90s -- you should have seen that the livelihoods of your parents, in most cases, would never be yours and looked for vocational training in information economy skills or furthered your schooling to marketable degrees; computer sciences, medical fields, engineering -- jobs with a future. These are the jobs that pay $50K to $170K (or more) today. And these are my customers -- they are making money in this economy you are suffering in, life was like this 50 years ago also but not so divided. Believe it or not, being a marginally employed worker sucked 50 years ago too.


sperbonzo 03-03-2016 11:44 AM

I despise the guy, but to be fair, shouldn't you take their full position statements from the candidates themselves, rather than some other person filtering them?

I have done this with each of the candidates. If you are TRULY interested in what they are proposing, then I would suggest you do the same:


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions




:2 cents:





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baddog 03-03-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20744262)
blah blah blah

News flash; no one that matters gives two shits what you like or don't like about any of our candidates.

Paul Markham 03-03-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20744398)
Paul I have two outlooks;

AC Webconnecting Holding, my ''employer'' is a small multi-national corporation that derives its income from a global market -- we have no shortage of people to sell.
I have a local interest, being a US Citizen, living in Michigan, watching the downwardly mobile lose their old industrial economy blue-collar jobs, as the disruptive past 40 years played out. Many were able to adapt and prosper, and some just did not have the ability, or did not make the effort, to transcend to the new environment.

They had little education and no real vocational training. These were the less intelligent or the lazy. They became the downardly mobile. We cannot eat them so we are stuck with keeping them. If you are flipping burgers or stocking shelves because your industrial low-skilled job was offshored I really have no pity for you -- you just didn't have it to adapt and bootstrap yourself up. As an example: GM had a training program to teach displaced assembly-line workers new vocational skills -- most assigned to these programs, that were partially federally funded retraining programs, did not succeed -- to this day the jobs are hard to fill; mechanics, automotive technicians, electricians, other skilled trades.

For those you that exited high school in the late 80s and 90s -- you should have seen that the livelihoods of your parents, in most cases, would never be yours and looked for vocational training in information economy skills or furthered your schooling to marketable degrees; computer sciences, medical fields, engineering -- jobs with a future. These are the jobs that pay $50K to $170K (or more) today. And these are my customers -- they are making money in this economy you are suffering in, life was like this 50 years ago also but not so divided. Believe it or not, being a marginally employed worker sucked 50 years ago too.

So in the last 50 years there has been no change in the West's wealth, it's living standards, income etc.

Think back 20 years and then project it forward 20 years.

http://www.oftwominds.com/photos08/Ndebt8-08a.png

http://cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/Debt_GDP.png

And the EU isn't doing so great.

http://www.economicvoice.com/wp-cont...s-Oct-2013.jpg

https://thenextrecession.files.wordp...ebt-to-gdp.png

I don't do anectdotal evidence. :winkwink:

Joe Obenberger 03-03-2016 04:52 PM

The biggest issue to me is the never-ending escalation of conflict with the Russians. It's the most potentially dangerous scenario on the table.

Listening to the sabre-rattling through the Republican debates, the lesser candidates tried to outdo each other in promising to decree US-imposed no-fly zones against the Russians in Syria. Exactly how do you enforce that without missiles intended to kill Russian pilots? And where does that lead? Where is the legitimacy of that conduct when every US operation is a violation of Syrian sovereignty?

There is very little to inspire much admiration for Trump, but he seems to possess one skill set that may be the most valuable for an American president: He does seem to have the ability to stand strong and he seems likely to negotiate favorable outcomes that avoid war and can build alliances in place of conflict. Audacity and testicularity. The thought of Rubio, for example, trying to hold his own with Putin, makes me want to cringe, just as I did when I saw the video following Putin's meeting with Obama.

Trump comes with a huge parcel of baggage and that makes it very hard for a reasonable person to support him without lots of qualifications, and I'm not prepared to do so. I can only observe that the American system limits the power of any president through checks and balances from the exclusive powers of Congress and the Courts and I suspect that many of Trump's more outrageous proposals are dead on arrival because of the broad American values expressed in Congress and the protections of the Bill of Rights enforced by the courts.

One thing I'm sure of: A president who's profited for many years with adult fare on pay per view in his hotel rooms is quite unlikely to suddenly develop moral scruples leading to DOJ action against the adult industry. I suspect that the adult industry is far more likely to be harmed by a leftist administration - set to discover the outer limits of worker and workplace safety - than any Republican administration.

woj 03-03-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20745028)
I don't do anectdotal evidence. :winkwink:

More meaningful measure is % of GDP going to debt payments:

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/wp...12-500x377.png

barely over 2% and actually fell last 20 years...

fitzmulti 03-03-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20744635)
News flash; no one that matters gives two shits what you like or don't like about any of our candidates.

:thumbsup:thumbsup
I mean if you don't even live in the US...

Horatio Caine 03-03-2016 05:48 PM

Old British retiree living in Czech republic has a list of think he likes and doesn't like about Trump? Why Paul, why?
What is you daily schedule like? Don't you have some gardening classes, game of croquet, peeping with binoculars at yoga class? No? Nothing?

Barry-xlovecam 03-03-2016 05:52 PM

The Republican Party has proven to be antagonistic to porn as you well know over these years of contention. Trump will need the support of the Republican political elite. Ronald Reagan's background was in Hollywood and in Hollywood porn is pretty much "looked-over" and accepted as a reality -- yet the witch hunt of §2257 began under Meese on Reagan's watch and was rewritten by GW Bush and AG Gonzalez. (May Gonzo's name be damned for eternity -- Little Bush too for that matter).

The Democrats are more the "regulators" of family "interests" rather than the judges of "moral values" that the Republicans imagine themselves to be. We can blame the CDA Act and the now stricken from law COPA Act on Reno and Bill Clinton. Who knows who Hillary will appoint AG? If she should continue Loretta Lynch's AG appointment -- we may have issues again. Eric Holder and Obama did the best we could expect -- ignored us and winked.

So Joe, it is hard to buy the argument that a President Trump will be non-contentious toward the adult entertainment industry and porn in general. He may have to follow the lead of the party that he would become the "Fuhrer" of.

Regardless of what happens, as a corporation we are not subject to US laws -- our domicile is foreign. Still, I am a US citizen and I live here, this is the country of my birth, and my "birth-right" 3rd generation citizenship. I respect the US Constitution above any biblical authority or any want-to-be-dictator's threat.

Robbie 03-03-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20744539)
I despise the guy, but to be fair, shouldn't you take their full position statements from the candidates themselves, rather than some other person filtering them?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
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EXACTLY! Copy and pasting anti-Trump writers OPINIONS on his positions is just stupid.

Stop letting other people tell you what to think. Get it straight from the candidates themselves and make up your own minds.

Paul Markham 03-04-2016 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger (Post 20745286)
The biggest issue to me is the never-ending escalation of conflict with the Russians. It's the most potentially dangerous scenario on the table.

Listening to the sabre-rattling through the Republican debates, the lesser candidates tried to outdo each other in promising to decree US-imposed no-fly zones against the Russians in Syria. Exactly how do you enforce that without missiles intended to kill Russian pilots? And where does that lead? Where is the legitimacy of that conduct when every US operation is a violation of Syrian sovereignty?

There is very little to inspire much admiration for Trump, but he seems to possess one skill set that may be the most valuable for an American president: He does seem to have the ability to stand strong and he seems likely to negotiate favorable outcomes that avoid war and can build alliances in place of conflict. Audacity and testicularity. The thought of Rubio, for example, trying to hold his own with Putin, makes me want to cringe, just as I did when I saw the video following Putin's meeting with Obama.

Trump comes with a huge parcel of baggage and that makes it very hard for a reasonable person to support him without lots of qualifications, and I'm not prepared to do so. I can only observe that the American system limits the power of any president through checks and balances from the exclusive powers of Congress and the Courts and I suspect that many of Trump's more outrageous proposals are dead on arrival because of the broad American values expressed in Congress and the protections of the Bill of Rights enforced by the courts.

One thing I'm sure of: A president who's profited for many years with adult fare on pay per view in his hotel rooms is quite unlikely to suddenly develop moral scruples leading to DOJ action against the adult industry. I suspect that the adult industry is far more likely to be harmed by a leftist administration - set to discover the outer limits of worker and workplace safety - than any Republican administration.

Politicians tap into people fears and hopes. Mostly in that order. Trump has a huge advantage by using these two elements.

The fear that another 8 years of a political President making their lives harder. With the hope that a businessman can do better. When the reality is, businessmen running politicians have caused the problems.

Checks and balances by whom? Politicians who have to worry about getting enough funding to run next time. Isn't going to change anything.

Paul Markham 03-04-2016 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20745325)
More meaningful measure is % of GDP going to debt payments:

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/wp...12-500x377.png

barely over 2% and actually fell last 20 years...

So long as we can more borrow money to repay the previous debts, all's fine. Can we keep borrowing to repay the next Bond repayment?

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Originally Posted by fitzmulti (Post 20745373)
:thumbsup:thumbsup
I mean if you don't even live in the US...

US Presidents have a bigger impact on my life.

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20745460)
Old British retiree living in Czech republic has a list of think he likes and doesn't like about Trump? Why Paul, why?
What is you daily schedule like? Don't you have some gardening classes, game of croquet, peeping with binoculars at yoga class? No? Nothing?

My schedule is, dog walking, reading, watching TV, cooking, afternoon nap and not a lot else. So the answer is I have plenty of time. This is what happens when you're frugal and invest wisely.

Paul Markham 03-04-2016 03:03 AM

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform

Her misses the core problem. Healthcare providers over charging or doing unnecessary procedures. Insurance costs are governed by risks-cost of fixing. An unhealthy population + expensive remedies = High prices.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...a-trade-reform Spot on.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform He has to get the jobs back again and wages higher. Or it will just mean more debt.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform Agreed. There are easier ways to limit illegal migration. No benefits, jobs, houses and when found immediate deportation or into a secure camp until deported. Parents can't claim the right to stay because they have a child born in America. They can take the child home with them. As he points out, there ae few winners in mass migration. Property owners, In the UK house prices and rents have doubled, employers, and public sector. The last one has huge problems to deal with, ensuring they keep busy.

Barry-xlovecam 03-04-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20746162)
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform

Her misses the core problem. Healthcare providers over charging or doing unnecessary procedures. Insurance costs are governed by risks-cost of fixing. An unhealthy population + expensive remedies = High prices.

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Trump's ''great plan'' for health care omits one of the key requirements of the Obamacare (ACA) law; insurers must underwrite preexisting conditions within age bracket premium segments. That would throw-me-under-the-bus personally. Basically, it would be a early death sentence.

His policy writers have contradicted what he has said in the past and published his official platform statement. You can say what you say and then change your position but when you "carve it in stone" in written text said in your name (official website), I accept that as your "truth."

Not only has Trump offended me with his bigoted rhetoric, Trump has shown me that he is a hypocrite on trade issues and now he changes his only redeeming quality (in my mind) in favor of a Universal One Payer Healthcare Platform.

Donald Trump is all about money and the Trump's oversized ego (to overcome his little dick size? Come on Donald whip it out and prove it :1orglaugh Hey, he defended his penis size in front of America on TV -- Fair Game Now...) what a jerk and most Republican leaders seem to agree Trump is not welcome.

Someone should tell the tangerine man that the Tea Party is not the 'T' Party -- 'T' for Trump. I hope Trump is tossed from the Republican Party and runs as an independent. He might come in second place at best:2 cents:

Paul Markham 03-04-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20746423)
Trump's ''great plan'' for health care omits one of the key requirements of the Obamacare (ACA) law; insurers must underwrite preexisting conditions within age bracket premium segments. That would throw-me-under-the-bus personally. Basically, it would be a early death sentence.

His policy writers have contradicted what he has said in the past and published his official platform statement. You can say what you say and then change your position but when you "carve it in stone" in written text said in your name (official website), I accept that as your "truth."

Not only has Trump offended me with his bigoted rhetoric, Trump has shown me that he is a hypocrite on trade issues and now he changes his only redeeming quality (in my mind) in favor of a Universal One Payer Healthcare Platform.

Donald Trump is all about money and the Trump's oversized ego (to overcome his little dick size? Come on Donald whip it out and prove it :1orglaugh Hey, he defended his penis size in front of America on TV -- Fair Game Now...) what a jerk and most Republican leaders seem to agree Trump is not welcome.

Someone should tell the tangerine man that the Tea Party is not the 'T' Party -- 'T' for Trump. I hope Trump is tossed from the Republican Party and runs as an independent. He might come in second place at best:2 cents:

I don't think any of his plans are well thought through. So much like any other politicians. They say what they can to get elected, then do what they're told to, to get the money to get elected.

Whereas in Europe, they have a dream of a United Europe to solve all problems. When they can't solve any.


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