Affiliate: "I don't care about anyone"
 

Preface: often we get cam girls crying that their shows recordings are posted around, most often taken from mfc or chaturbate, not from our site anyway.

So... one of my admins got this skype chat today:

Inga: hey
ChatGF/Tubecamgirl: hi
Inga: Ive seen you on gfy
Inga: posting / commenting ..
Inga: We run a network of webcam recordings
Inga: CamGirls.TO
Inga: Recorded.TO | Free Recorded Webcam Shows
Inga: Online Recorded
ChatGF/Tubecamgirl: those aren't authorised or legal at all, are you aware of this? :)
Inga: we have the traffic
Inga: who want this traffic
Inga: is my question
ChatGF/Tubecamgirl: my question is another )))
Inga: I don't care about anyone
Inga: I just record / post. I build traffic
Inga: let me know if u have some good offer

I find it so fascinating that he/she reads my posts in gfy, so I guessed that posting this in gfy would have he/she "don't care about anyone" anyway.

Unsure if chaturbate, bongacams and livejasmin like these domain names:
chaturbate.video
chaturbate.to
livejasmin.video
bongacams.video

Anyway except being a rapidgator file locker affiliate, he's an imlive, camster affiliate, unsure if that's known and fine. I see his imlive.video and flirt4free.video redirect to a bangbros offer. And pornhub casino.

Well at least I see a REPORT link there.
We have found so many where theres no DMCA nor report infringment option :(

Well I fail to see the problem here.
He is recording webcam shows for building traffic and offering you the chance to make money from his webcam traffic.
You are a cam site so you should be eager for his traffic as you fail to get it on your own merits.

All of the videos I played were shorter than 60 seconds.
(nobody can fap to that :) )

He is basically stuffing the google and picking up longtail keywords and he probably gets nice SEO traffic he wants to cash in...

(I'm aware that he is not allowed to do this but still these are pretty short clips with absolutely nothing interesting and if some one knows any of these girls by name once he lands there and plays couple boring 30 second clips - hell'll leave and never come back)

You did not noticed that except the previews, there is the "download" tab with 30 minute files, example:

Download 00:30:05 of SIMsational; 263.69 MiB; h264; aac
File: SIMsational_yoga_up_bad_streptease_entertaining_20 16-03-03_17-30-53.mp4 | Alfafile.net

Download VioletFoxy 00:30:07 of VioletFoxy; 264.37 MiB; h264; aac
Download file VioletFoxy_vaginal_race_pregnant_in_classy_2016-03-06_05-15-54.mp4

AdultKing would add, that he is also affiliate of file lockers above, and getting a % over whoever buy the "fast download" there.

Don't feel bad. I posted a bunch of links to pornstar "fanclub" sites billed by ccbill. Not a fuck was given either. Not even by Brazzers who are getting burned on a number of sites.

Cam girls it is not porn stars, I mean a porn star is even happy of she is promoted and the whole world sees her naked, but most cam girls don't want anyone to know.

The real problem with cam shows it is not just rights or money or people fapping for free, but that many of the cam girls do this in secret from their neighbours, friends and relatives. They ask the cam site to block the own country viewers for example Ukraine, Russia, romania, Philippines or Colombia, and ask NOT to use their videos for advertising and banners which as promo material may be not geo blocked and so visible in own country.
So the cam site make sure not to display any live show or recorded promo of the models to the own country IPs, but instead those guys record the full shows so the girl is naked and playing, and post these as much as they can with no any geo blocking.
So what it is happening it is we hear so often of this and that cam girl who stopped work because some unnamed neighbour glued to her home door a big color printing of herself naked with a toy in the ass. It even happened that a girl found color prints of her with toy in ass glued all around the streets around her home.
Further, several especially in russia and ukraine are in the business of setting up sites and forums with the recordings AND the full real name, they do this so when the girl get to know of the existence of this from a relative or friend (which is sure not good as she is the last to know it and the whole city knows, and will remember forever), and she emails asking it to be removed, the site or forum operator is ready to ask money in amounts of up to $1000 to remove her listing. Several girls pay that.

You should have someone Skype him and tell him that it was realy dumb to open that email that hacked your cam on Skype. Also, they should offer to sell him the pictures that you have of him fappin' his monkey while looking at the camgirls he is recording.

"We know who you are and where you work now thanks to that Skype virus in that email" ... If you can find his Facebook or Twitter page you might be able to intimidate him to stop -- if it is worth your time to make him your "project-person"

Sure it is illegal, but it is civil and not realistically enforced -- unfortunately. Make him an offer he can't refuse but the little dirtball may really not give a fuck:2 cents:

That's how ManWin started ...

Post his Email and Contact details here

I would say the problem is the girls expect some sort of privacy.. its one thing to do some kinky sex acts for one dude who is paying you, its another for those kinky acts to be recorded and have everyone in the whole world see them.

I myself have recorded some cam shows, but would never upload them anywhere..

Recording cam Show can be Good business and what i observed on xvideo and xhmaster and most porn sites are full of recoreded CamShows :-)

Honestly i feel sorry for those Girls, we are living in a cheap world
all looks for money money money money

such easy lawsuit, everyone bend over take up ass. nobody scared of you

This site representative seems a russian female. Can't say if lesbian.

That's why you should do something about it. In a meaningful way.

My kind of people. You have to be a wolf, Like youtube or pornhub. Don't make, just take. That is the Silicon Valley way.

If any of you guys out there listening. I need some code for a browser locker, Where can I get that code? I got an idea where I don't need any affiliate programs. I will be vertically integrated.

I may take on affiliates here soon.

oh yea, Always looking for fullz.

giving everything out for free is working wonders for the industry...in fact they have to scoop so low now that they record cam shows LOL...

I bet quality production is at an all time low, soon to be gone, and cam girls will follow...wonder what the wolves will eat then :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It is so rare that I agree with crusifissio on anything that I almost feel like making a big deal out of this and commemorating it in some way. Almost.

But you nailed it dead on. :thumbsup

The best way to reduce webcam recording by sleazeballs is to put the content behind pay walls. That will stop them 98% of the time. Paying for a 10 minute hardcore cam show costs upwards of $20 ... Except for the ''freemium'' cam site model -- I wont miss them when the models are no longer there with their [*DMCA*] overlays gone -- they just cut that part of the frame out and the site's watermark too then scale the result out. :2 cents:

not sure I'd be all that eager to take on an aff who "doesn't care about anyone". that's a great testament to her/his ethics and honesty and no doubt someone who will deal with sponsor sites with absolute integrity :thumbsup

for real, I know we clash when it comes to some core beliefs about this industry but you're good people and you run a quality site that is remarkably model-centric in many ways that I respect (payout, competent support, ethics in marketing, copyright, etc). I suspect the endurance of your site in such a tough market is at least in part due to that approach. That and nuff hard work, no doubt

my point: your instincts are sound and your site thrives in a challenging market because you are different. don't start wading into the cesspool now

Yes the DMCA overlay as well as "property of xxxxx" overlays are so much the sign of desperation as these are absolutely not useful.
I sure agree the issue is 100% the free public shows (freemium, for tips or whatever you call these), but after cam4, mfc, chaturbate and all these went popular (and sustainable for them), the guys simply moved there in big part, and models had to adapt or die. We still have chatgf.com which does not even give free chat (appointment only) and is doing ok; as well as in tubecamgirl.com got group shows requiring a ticket to be paid to enter. But it is less and less probable for most cam girls to be noticed and earn a living without show anything in any free room; even just topless which would be ok for the girls, if no one recorded and re-posted these in russian, colombian and filipino free sites, where neighbours, friends and relatives will see.

JesseQ: we been more model-centric than some other sites, but if the biggest cam sites are user centric (i.e. setup all in a way so that the home page is filled of most free shows as possible, what most guys want), then our effort of being model-centric (as well as the effort of some other smaller sites) got little effect for anyone. Except that a few models recognise it in forums - despite NOT being online with us anymore as yours :)
In fact we're so fond of models talking good of ours, BUT, really being online in other sites they talk bad of. That happens all the time.