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nico-t 03-21-2016 04:46 PM

Aside from brainwashing, there's a psychological reason why people keep voting for the same shit.
 
It just hit me when i wrote a reply in another thread: There is an actual psychological explanation for the completely irrational behavior of humans who keep voting for the same corrupt politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 04:49 PM

Yea it's amazing

How the fuck can anyone vote for ANYONE except Trump? They're all career lying corrupt politicians and then finally one bright spot comes along and the media and establishment lose their shit. Yet people will STILL vote against him :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

clickity click 03-21-2016 04:49 PM

Cliff notes?

ITraffic 03-21-2016 05:33 PM


klinton 03-21-2016 06:03 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
target audience= redneck idiots
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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20791473)


bronco67 03-21-2016 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20791275)
It just hit me when i wrote a reply in another thread: There is an actual psychological explanation for the completely irrational behavior of humans who keep voting for the same corrupt politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.

We all know what Stockholm Syndrome is ....but congratulations for finally discovering it genius. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, because the relationship between politicians and constituents doesn't constitute Stockholm Sydrome.

So what you're trying to say is that anyone who doesn't like a yellow haired demagogue is sleepwalking? Stop trying to psychoanalyze intelligent people because it doesn't suit you. Stick to the simple things, like picking boogers.

bronco67 03-21-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20791473)

Never trust anyone who needs to punctuate every point with "believe me". He must have said that 100 times.

He touts himself as the anti-politician, but he seems to be pretty good at telling people what they want to hear. If it's a room full of rednecks, the line is about "Mexicans taking your jobs and raping your women and killing your children".

If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran. It's all fear based demagoguery and so transparent.

He's such a fucking duplicitous con man. YOU are the suckers...not everyone else.

klinton 03-21-2016 07:06 PM

:2 cents::2 cents:
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791551)
Never trust anyone who needs to punctuate every point with "believe me". He must have said that 100 times.

He touts himself as the anti-politician, but he seems to be pretty good at telling people what they want to hear. If it's a room full of rednecks, the line is about "Mexicans taking your jobs and raping your women and killing your children".

If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran. It's all fear based demagoguery and so transparent.

He's such a fucking duplicitous con man. YOU are the suckers...not everyone else.


JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 07:11 PM

Trump is the only choice in 2016

L-Pink 03-21-2016 07:24 PM

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

It's unbelievable aint it? People sit here and bitch and moan about lies about Trump...but SOMEONE has to win the Presidency

bronco67 03-21-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791611)
She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.

Her and her husband are as corrupt as they get

Trump is a successful businessman and not a career politician

L-Pink 03-21-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791611)
She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.


I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791629)
I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

All the heat that Trump is getting SHOULD be getting put on Hillary...look at how corrupt that bitch is! Imagine if Trump had done 1/10th of what she's done!?

bronco67 03-21-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791629)
I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

ErectMedia 03-21-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791629)
I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

I dug Ross Perot and Ron Paul other than them 2 not many others.
Can't stand Hillary but think Vaginas will vote for her cause she has a Vagina as well.
Trump 2016 :thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791638)
There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

Kasich is a fucking loser

Trump IS the revolution

MakeMeGrrrrowl 03-21-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791629)
I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

It just makes you not want to vote right? That's how feel. Fuck it. You all suck.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 03-21-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 20791644)
I dug Ross Perot and Ron Paul other than them 2 not many others.
Can't stand Hillary but think Vaginas will vote for her cause she has a Vagina as well.
Trump 2016 :thumbsup


Please give us cunts a little more credit. I really don't dig Hillary.

PirrTaste 03-21-2016 08:35 PM

All of the candidates are terrible.

ITraffic 03-21-2016 08:35 PM



#CRUZ2016

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-21-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PirrTaste (Post 20791746)
All of the candidates are terrible.

Except for Trump

mineistaken 03-22-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791551)
If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran

Actually it is Hilary and other politicians who speaks solely on the target group.
Trump does the least of that, obviously if the room is Jewish you need to talk more about Jew problems, but that is nothing compared to how targeted Clinton and other switch their subjects. And not only switch subjects, but also contradict themselves based on what kind of room they are speaking to.

crockett 03-22-2016 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

Why do you always assume that because someone calls out your guy that they automatically support the other. Trump is a liar and a disaster waiting to happen. Hillary is a lying cunt.. What's worse a liar or a disaster and liar?

klinton 03-22-2016 01:20 AM

you overrate Trump.
he just plays game of being "new and charismatic and the change that people need",,,, just like Obama did
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20791941)
Why do you always assume that because someone calls out your guy that they automatically support the other. Trump is a liar and a disaster waiting to happen. Hillary is a lying cunt.. What's worse a liar or a disaster and liar?


GregE 03-22-2016 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

I don't get it either.

She's just itching to get us ass deep in yet another Mideast war :(
Hillary Clinton Lays Out Her Own Middle East Approach ? And It?s Not Obama?s

nico-t 03-22-2016 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20791638)
There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

your reasoning is completely false as well as naive.

It doesn't matter what the views are of the puppets. They say it for votes, not to actually get to work with it once they are president. Been like this as long as i can remember. Choosing someone who is something different than these same puppets, to me, is as logical as you can get. Fuck their views.

Choosing Hillary over Trump is choosing 4 more years of the same agenda of Bush, Obama, etc. And these 2 were from two different parties yet during their run they have had exactly, 1 on 1, the same agenda when it comes to important global issues. That would tell the people enough that these political figures are all the same, yet these idiots vote on the same type of person each 4 years. Hence the Stockholm Syndrome: The irrational voters supporting these corrupticians keep digging their own graves.

klinton 03-22-2016 02:34 AM

http://www.medspecindiana.com/files/...lthyFamily.jpg
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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20792019)
The irrational voters supporting these corrupticians keep digging their own graves.


ITraffic 03-22-2016 09:45 AM

#nukeiran #nukeisis #nukepalestine #trump2016

VikingMan 03-22-2016 09:55 AM

The vast majority of humans are followers and if a message or messages are repeated over and and over then most of the people just blindly believe it. Adding to the problem are all the modern technologies like TV and internet so these messages are beamed at a greater frequency and can be normalized over a large population. And of course we live in a consumer culture with tons of distractions like movies, sports, etc.

The average modern person is in complete denial and only cares about their own comfort. They do not want to hear the truth and are attracted to candidates who make them feel that everything is going to be ok.

It has been said that a small dedicated group of people can change the world and that is certainly what has happened. If you have a crowd of 10,000 people I promise you that a smaller group of 50 people could just begin to completely control the crowd if they at as a united front.

PR_Glen 03-22-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

at this point? lack of reasonable option. I don't think any of the candidates sound even close to that at this point. Either too radical or too much of the same.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20793003)
at this point? lack of reasonable option. I don't think any of the candidates sound even close to that at this point. Either too radical or too much of the same.

Hillary is a corrupt career politician
Cruz is a snake and career politician

Trump is a successful billionaire businessman. How can you even compare Trump to the others?!

pimpmaster9000 03-22-2016 10:23 AM

yacht races and elections are pretty much the same thing, a money race...it has nothing to do with the poor, and the only victors can only be money...

Bladewire 03-22-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20791605)
How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

Real men want pussy for president :thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20793027)
yacht races and elections are pretty much the same thing, a money race...it has nothing to do with the poor, and the only victors can only be money...

And Trump is the only one not taking money from lobbyists and special interests...

crockett 03-22-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20791962)
you overrate Trump.
he just plays game of being "new and charismatic and the change that people need",,,, just like Obama did

Sorry I look at reality. Trump has shown himself to be a liar and he's done nothing at all to.show he will be nothing more than a disaster for this county.

Look I can understand him playing the cards to get his fan base in place. Act a little different or out there to gather a following and to get airtime..

However eventually you have to get serious and not be the nutjob.. It's long past time he needed to be serious and not be a nutjob.. which means he isn't pretending, he really us a nutjob and a disaster waiting to happen..

Bladewire 03-22-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793018)
Hillary is a corrupt career politician
Trump is a corrupt businessman
Cruz is a snake and career politician

Agreed :thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20793060)
Sorry I look at reality. Trump has shown himself to be a liar and he's done nothing at all to.show he will be nothing more than a disaster for this county.

Look I can understand him playing the cards to get his fan base in place. Act a little different or out there to gather a following and to get airtime..

However eventually you have to get serious and not be the nutjob.. It's long past time he needed to be serious and not be a nutjob.. which means he isn't pretending, he really us a nutjob and a disaster waiting to happen..

What has he lied about?

The guy isn't taking special interest or lobbyist money...how is he a disaster for this country? He's a disaster for the establishment, who runs the country

Bladewire 03-22-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793072)
What has he lied about?

The guy isn't taking special interest or lobbyist money...how is he a disaster for this country? He's a disaster for the establishment, who runs the country

You're saying Donald Trump doesn't lie?

You're saying Donald Trump hasn't lost lawsuits because he did something illegal?

You're sayinng Donald Trump hasn't taken special intetest money and hasn't met with special interest representatives yesterday in Washington DC?

pimpmaster9000 03-22-2016 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793057)
And Trump is the only one not taking money from lobbyists and special interests...

so big money has a new candidate in the yach race...what do the elections and yacht races have to do with the poor again?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20793150)
so big money has a new candidate in the yach race...what do the elections and yacht races have to do with the poor again?

But he isn't taking money from special interests...

Bladewire 03-22-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793156)
But he isn't taking money from special interests...

You're a useless parrot. You don't even backup what you say with facts. A complete waste of time.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20793165)
You're a useless parrot. You don't even backup what you say with facts. A complete waste of time.

Look at how much Jeb and Hillar raised...and Cruz and Rubio

Trump is self funded

Bladewire 03-22-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793180)

Trump is self funded

Trump is not self funded.

Go to any campaign tracking site like Politico, realclearpolitics, thirtyfiveeight, etc. and post here how much money Trump has received.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20793219)
Trump is not self funded.

Go to any campaign tracking site like Politico, realclearpolitics, thirtyfiveeight, etc. and post here how much money Trump has received.

He has received small donations from his fans. It was getting too burdensome to send back so he set up a donate button. Getting $10 from someone is a little different than getting $50 million from goldman sachs

ITraffic 03-22-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793156)
But he isn't taking money from special interests...

yes it seems he will do the bidding of aipac for free.

pimpmaster9000 03-22-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793156)
But he isn't taking money from special interests...

I never said he was taking money did I?

I said that big money and interests have a new yacht in the race, yacht races are nothing for the poor...like politics...blue blood only, no common blood allowed...

now you will say

"but he isnt taking money"

I will reply

"he has his own, its just another yacht in the race, and it does not belong to YOU"

yacht races & politics, not for the poor<----this

Bladewire 03-22-2016 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20793222)
He has received small donations from his fans. It was getting too burdensome to send back so he set up a donate button.

37% of his funding is LOANS from himself to his campaign.

63% of his funding is from donations & special interest money.

He's NOT self funded.

Educate yourself and stop lying to people here its not cool.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2016 11:59 AM

He IS self funding you fucking idiot. What is he supposed to do when millions of people want to send him $5 and $10?? He is accepting small donations NOT from lobbyists and special interests you utter moron!


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