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datingbanking 03-26-2016 12:01 PM

Blog post from Jay / smashrevenue
 
From having Millions to having $200 in my pocket - JayKnowsCash.com

Not exactly happy days :-(

ITraffic 03-26-2016 12:13 PM

shit happens.

Rochard 03-26-2016 12:30 PM

Takes balls to admit to your failures like that.

ITraffic 03-26-2016 12:33 PM

how did he not notice the cards being banged for hundreds of thousands a day for six months?

seolinker 03-26-2016 12:54 PM

All this adultmediabuys.com appeared when dating started to show somewhat .... decline in adult offers from various CPA networks. All landers combination along with banners before them was somewhat seen or so. Payouts lowered and many very very sweet offers hardened conversion points or just gone. Even some companies like Cupid reformed or just close to broke or sold. Many great offers from countries, well untapped ones gone... So seems like that maybe the real story. Sure something is doing well, but it's all not that hot for few years already at least on adult sources.

TheSquealer 03-26-2016 01:25 PM

Gee, who'd have thought the guy running a forum with the emphasis of ripping off creatives and selling memberships to softwar to also help you rip off people's creatives who then started an affiliate network with products that clearly infringed on the rights of big sites (trademarks) and who was notorious for sending pure shitt traffic to dating programs couldn't turn it all I tip a sustainable business model and blames everyone else for it all unwinding.

Tuan is a also a fucking douchebag.

rogueteens 03-26-2016 01:43 PM

wowzers.

seolinker 03-26-2016 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20802356)
Gee, who'd have thought the guy running a forum with the emphasis of ripping off creatives and selling memberships to softwar to also help you rip off people's creatives who then started an affiliate network with products that clearly infringed on the rights of big sites (trademarks) and who was notorious for sending pure shitt traffic to dating programs couldn't turn it all I tip a sustainable business model and blames everyone else for it all unwinding.

Tuan is a also a fucking douchebag.

Well put! Selling memberships for $99 after adult dating stopped being "next big thing" literally. I applied for $1 trial promo just to see that I am right. Forum was full of people who "try", "testing and testing some more" with LOTS of them just fail, few close to break even and maybe just very very few make some not that much money including owners for sure;)

All creatives and basically just all landers and such worked 2009-2011 let's say! Later only worse each year. At least on saturated tubes.

WebCashMaker 03-26-2016 02:10 PM

So who was the partner that decided it was a good idea to install a script on their sites (without their knowledge), which basically acted like a key-logger ? ? ?

datingbanking 03-26-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker (Post 20802434)
So who was the partner that decided it was a good idea to install a script on their sites (without their knowledge), which basically acted like a key-logger ? ? ?

It seems it's going to the courts, so we'll know, eventually.

dig420 03-26-2016 09:06 PM

That many cb's should have resulted in massive and multiple VISA fines and the immediate shutdown of the mids they were processing on, and probably also a hold on all funds in the mid. I'd sure like to know what company was willing to fold their joins into their own mids.

TheSquealer 03-26-2016 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 20802806)
That many cb's should have resulted in massive and multiple VISA fines and the immediate shutdown of the mids they were processing on, and probably also a hold on all funds in the mid. I'd sure like to know what company was willing to fold their joins into their own mids.

All narcissistic and sociopathic con artists in the end have the same exact story. "I'm not the bad guy, i'm the victim, i did nothing wrong, it was all because of .... blah blah blah.. pity me, pity me, pity me". Nothing about his story makes sense except the fact that they ultimately imploded. A big time media buyer that suddenly can't make money with media buys? Hmmmm... Down to only $200.00? I make 100-150% ROI one what i spend weekly, but the guys who have posted non stop about how to make money online for years, can't make money online? That doesn't make sense.

remember.... "the innocent deny, liars explain". People who are serious about legal threats and who have level heads, explain it in court, not on a blog and they don't bring up a bunch of veiled threats about CP and other extraneous details as they do it... thats what an unhinged addict does.

tokmansta 03-26-2016 11:50 PM

@thesqualer

150% ROI in dating high volume?

MetaformX 03-27-2016 12:06 AM

Guess Jay Knew Cash huh

Klen 03-27-2016 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20802872)
All narcissistic and sociopathic con artists in the end have the same exact story. "I'm not the bad guy, i'm the victim, i did nothing wrong, it was all because of .... blah blah blah.. pity me, pity me, pity me". Nothing about his story makes sense except the fact that they ultimately imploded. A big time media buyer that suddenly can't make money with media buys? Hmmmm... Down to only $200.00? I make 100-150% ROI one what i spend weekly, but the guys who have posted non stop about how to make money online for years, can't make money online? That doesn't make sense.

remember.... "the innocent deny, liars explain". People who are serious about legal threats and who have level heads, explain it in court, not on a blog and they don't bring up a bunch of veiled threats about CP and other extraneous details as they do it... thats what an unhinged addict does.

Tell me more about 100%-150% roi.

seolinker 03-27-2016 08:02 AM

5 years ago those ROI's were just common.

NatalieK 03-27-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20802278)
Takes balls to admit to your failures like that.

sounds to me like the partner that began using the credit cards illegally should be in prison & it's not failure, some one's stole & crashed the business :(

Knowing what it's like, putting everything, money & hard committed work into a business, then left struggling. Although, we're plodding through & are not left owing anyone personally anything, just creditors.

Business can break anytime :(

TheSquealer 03-27-2016 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokmansta (Post 20802899)
@thesqualer

150% ROI in dating high volume?

200-ish a day from one source at that ROI (100-200% depending on the volume I want and how willing i am to play with it).

My point was that someone with his knowledge and skill set, relationships and ability to negotiate the highest payouts, and 2-3X weekly payments, can't be broke unless they are alcoholics or junkies or off their meds.

xXXtesy10 03-27-2016 09:36 AM

bro life

TheSquealer 03-27-2016 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20803163)
Tell me more about 100%-150% roi.

do what i did. watch everyone. watch everything they do. read their blogs. join their forums, get to know everything about them, their offers, their ads, their landing pages, their traffic sources.... get to know everywhere they are with ads and the places they don't want to be.

go to those places they aren't and obsess on figuring it out. took me about 3-4 months of pulling my hair out to figure out how to make a couple sources that everyone says are "garbage" work very well and i've been doing it for many years.

.................


Again, not buying the sob story of being the guy who sold access to stolen content through the forum and adultadspy (which was also broken for months but still actively billing people $197/mo i think), who liked to talk about his offshore structures as if there could never be consequences and who was partnered with "his best friend" who is a fucking douchebag... and he's just a hapless victim of a bunch of bad people.

The single common trait of sociopaths is that when the game is over, they ALWAYS make a play for pity. Always. And in doing so, always have a great story about how NOTHING was their fault and how they are the victim.

The Porn Nerd 03-27-2016 09:47 AM

Well apparently Jay did NOT know cash. LOL

HowlingWulf 03-27-2016 10:21 AM

And here I feel outraged when a sponsor doesn't pay me my $400. :P

Horatio Caine 03-27-2016 12:45 PM

His stats look very similar to Old Jeff's.

ottopottomouse 03-27-2016 01:41 PM

Don't believe a word of it.

Markul 03-28-2016 07:26 AM

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/35/35f90...e52c172e33.jpg

NatalieK 03-28-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20803424)
The single common trait of sociopaths is that when the game is over, they ALWAYS make a play for pity. Always. And in doing so, always have a great story about how NOTHING was their fault and how they are the victim.

Better than asking for pity, once you've made millions, just to continue making millions like Bree Elson's speaking about porn & the way people talk to her. Even though she's earn't more than 5mill $'s & still continues to advertise links & sign ups. Talk about hypocritical about the business :(

ITraffic 03-28-2016 01:07 PM

http://adultmediamastermind.com/

LeRoy 03-28-2016 03:03 PM

Holy moly!!!

ITraffic 03-28-2016 05:20 PM

quite a fall ....

https://goo.gl/5v8qZI

So what does a young and successful European in Thailand do with his free time?

I?m obsessed with sports cars.

I love to drive my cars, go on mini vacations with my model girlfriend, and travel the world as much as I can.

Life?s too short to spend in my Versace adorned condo just counting money.

seolinker 03-29-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20805389)

Unbelievable, so this con operation going on....


Bonus Gift #1

I?m giving you as a bonus 100% Access to my Adult Media Buyers Course for FREE. ($1,997 Value)

Yeah:)

Bonus #2:

The Adult Media Buyers 2.0 Course upon release!

shiraz9944 04-01-2016 08:32 PM

why not keep at least 2 million aside for yourself out of that 5 or 6 or whatever for future products and to live on? Why would you throw everything in when you didn't need to? I undersstand when you have nothing but you had millions.

Google Expert 04-01-2016 08:36 PM

How did he go from 50/50 partners to being a minor shareholder?

seolinker 04-02-2016 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiraz9944 (Post 20813318)
why not keep at least 2 million aside for yourself out of that 5 or 6 or whatever for future products and to live on? Why would you throw everything in when you didn't need to? I undersstand when you have nothing but you had millions.

Cause it's all made up story about the millions, that's why.

Tyuan or whatever his partner also bragged a lot how he visits very often Silicon Valley for business;)

seolinker 04-02-2016 01:19 PM

all website deleted totally now by the way

Sednub997 04-02-2016 01:27 PM

oh shit..thats when you think your are clever but your not

TheSquealer 04-02-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seolinker (Post 20813651)
Cause it's all made up story about the millions, that's why.

Tyuan or whatever his partner also bragged a lot how he visits very often Silicon Valley for business;)

Most dating sites were kissing his ass because he had a huge number of daily leads. He was doing very well. The "made up" part is about a couple of scammers being hapless victims who's trust was violated by an evil villain who took advantage of them.

Jays "I didn't do it and besides, I'm broke with no more money, property and cars" sounds a lot to me like a legal defense to deter attorneys in hopes they'll look elsewhere or not look at all.

shiraz9944 04-02-2016 04:06 PM

I just don't get it there must be more, if you have millions and cars like that, why not walk away and say no way and keep your money and cars, hell sell the cars and keep the money, you'd be WAY ahead of the world there, and live like a king still. Then maybe start something new?

ITraffic 04-02-2016 04:12 PM

because he probably still has the money and cars.

teomaxxx 05-09-2016 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seolinker (Post 20814221)
all website deleted totally now by the way

I just today visited his blog, had it in bookmark folder "dont forget to read it"...only to find out, its all deleted.

TheeRoly 05-09-2016 11:18 AM

I'd love to see the original post. Anyone have it still?

xXXtesy10 05-09-2016 11:40 AM

no page at all no afford domain registration. he and pornnerd guy hang out too much

JFK 05-09-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seolinker (Post 20807711)
Unbelievable, so this con operation going on....


Bonus Gift #1

I?m giving you as a bonus 100% Access to my Adult Media Buyers Course for FREE. ($1,997 Value)

Yeah:)

Bonus #2:

The Adult Media Buyers 2.0 Course upon release!

read that a while ago :2 cents:

romeo22 05-09-2016 01:47 PM

He would easly get one of the best GFY award category

ITraffic 05-10-2016 05:09 AM


_Richard_ 05-10-2016 06:21 AM

i missed this..

adultadspy still seems up.. strange

TheeRoly 05-10-2016 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20883692)
no page at all no afford domain registration. he and pornnerd guy hang out too much

You're the best poster on this board. :2 cents:

teomaxxx 05-16-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheeRoly (Post 20883659)
I'd love to see the original post. Anyone have it still?

bump for the question.

BigFurry 05-16-2016 11:52 AM

From having Millions to having $200 in my pocket - JayKnowsCash.com

TheeRoly 05-17-2016 10:19 AM

^^^^^ Thanks.

Just Alex 05-17-2016 10:41 AM

Jay is on the run


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