Thinking of getting this laptop - Installing Linux
 

Do you think this is a decent deal for an older laptop? I want to replace the OS anyways.
Gonna use Ubuntu.

Amazon.com: Lenovo ThinkPad E455 (20DE001PUS) notebook: A6-7000, 14-inch, 4GB, 500GB, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit preinstalled: Computers & Accessories

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Negative..

Go with linux mint instead, ubuntu interface is terrible .

I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS LINUX on an old X61 Thinkpad it runs great for an old Intel dual-core.

A winblows 10 upgrade destroyed the MBR or something.

Install with the Ubuntu live CD and partition the hard drive (or SSD.) You can do a dual boot and keep the Windows 7.

I just upgraded 2 comps in my office to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS -- there were some issues with the installer but it worked out OK. I was looking at a flavor called Ubuntu Mate https://ubuntu-mate.org/about/

LINUX Mint is a good user desktop friendly GNU/LINUX based on Debian like Ubuntu is.

GNU/LINUX uses maybe 1/2 the hardware resources that the Microcrap Windoz OS requires so older hardware runs like new again.

The only correct desktop/laptop linux is Fedora with cinnamon desktop environment HTH

It's all personal preference. People need to find out for themselves. That is a good choice though.

Lots of nonsense in this thread. Don't listen to those who know nothing.

Take it from me - You need a macbook pro. Its the ONLY way forward. Thank me later.

That's bullshit.

Linuxmint is bases on ubuntu and debian, two versions are available.

Good luck with the install, pretty sure you will need it.

Thats nice Brand for that price.

I have CentOS running on a gigabyte brix with an i3 processor and 8gigs ram. Runs perfect for everything I do with it, but I dont use a graphical interface. Just command prompt for it.

Fedora is a RHEL beta experiment.
Mint uses the Cinnamon Desktop.

I use Kubuntu KDE on my main workstation. I prefer to use the Dolphin file management as the GNOME is a bit dumbed down IMHO. I spend a lot of the day using a terminal anyway -- desktop eyecandy is secondary to me.

At any rate, on my IBM/Lenovo, old POS :OD the main loss from Winblows was the stylus writing features of the tablet -- the pointing stylus is functional and the onscreen keyboard works fine.

Nah, Mac OSX or Fedora Linux are the only good choices for Operating Sytems. Everything else is piss trash garbage for idiots. ;)

Stick with Ubuntu. It has the best driver support for Wifi, Chipset, etc. and is easiest to install. If you are a Linux admin then go with CentOS since your servers are most likely running off of it. Do not get a Lenovo. So many BIOS issues with EFI and other related crap. Asus is a good solid brand. You can get a solid laptop for around $300. Replace the HD with a SSD and increase battery life and bootup time in the 10-15 second range.

I used cent os on servers for last 10 years(and i still do) tho i am slowly moving to debian due following reasons - if you want to install additional software on cent os, you need to deploy one or several extra repos. And when you have extra repos , sooner or later you will have conflict with libraries versions and wont be able to upgrade certain software due that. Debian so far had everything what i needed on it's default repo (source as it is called there) and i find it absurd why cent os dont have many major programs on it's default repo. Of course , if you install all programs by compiling then this wont matter.
Another thing where debian have advantage, is how if you want to install something over apt but it missing dependencies, you can automatically install all dependencies while on cent os you need to manually to install dependencies . Only disadvantage of debian is lack of ksplice for reboot-less kernel updates, tho i can live without that.

That is idiot claim, tho realistically it all depending on personal gui preference , out of 100 linux distributions which i tested only linux mint was suitable for what i needed. As feature wise there is not much difference anyway, regardless is it debian or fedora base.

The Mac-haters sure are a grouchy bunch!

I'm sorry, unless you are using Fedora or the worlds most advanced operating system Mac OSX 10.11.4 El Capitan, you are computing incorrectly and should cease and desist from engaging in such shameful behavior.

Autism is an ugly disorder :(

I use Debian for everything I do, and for laptops I always buy ASUS they have served me well for years.

It will be fine as long as you aren't planning on doing anything serious with it. General web browsing and coding probably fine. It would probably have difficulty playing any decent quality video.

A lot of people that use Linux encounter issues with wifi and their touchpad on different Lenovo laptops. Especially the touchpad. It is worth checking this out before buying a certain model. Else you will be left with some fixes that might include compiling your own kernel.
Not everybody likes that.

Neither Fedora nor Mac OSX do not have features which i need. Seems like you are the one who suffer from autism :1orglaugh

Features you need:

• A terrible OS.

Shameful

One thing is sure , i dont need "pretty" os like macosx. Functionality , not design.

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Shameful

That's not really my problem.

You can get macbooks in gold and rose gold too now :2 cents:

Colour is important.

Well, if color is most important factor for you... Then go ahead :upsidedow

everybody knows you need a crapple....you need to pay at least 2000$ for a craptop and you need to wait in line for it like a gay boy for like 2 weeks...it becomes obsolete the moment a new crapple crap top is announced and you need the iwatch and idildo with it...also itunes...

do not be fooled by 300$ laptops that have the exact same specs! macosx runs 0.0000001% faster in 0.00002% of the applications! this is fucking huge! you will save 0.00001 seconds every day!

Agreed, OP

Exactly. How can one be expected to code correctly on a depressingly coloured black laptop?

:thumbsup for linux mint

Calling BS on mac being the ONLY way forward does not make one a hater,

If you're doing any kind of software development then a Mac is the way to go. A Mac gives you a proper Unix machine with access to real world consumer level apps. eg: Word, Pages, Numbers, Excel, Photoshop, etc.

If not, then who cares ? If you want to live in the third world land of Linux on the desktop then go for it.

Linux is great for production server environments, not so great as an all round consumer desktop OS.

What do you mean? Unity? You can install Gnome or KDE with a few clicks. Can't see any problem there.

Why do people always think their old hardware is perfect for Linux?

Linux is awesome on brand new modern hardware.

Yes you are correct, but that default ubuntu interface pissed me off somuch i simply stay away from it no matter which gui is used.

Windows is actually working fine on old hardware as well providing you using older versions but you cant get older versions legally anymore, hence linux only option.

sudo apt-get install gofuckyourself

clear

The OP question was what to do with A NEW ThinkPad ...
AMD A6 7000
That is marginal hardware IMHO. Low priced for occasional or travel use maybe.
Depends on what you want to use it for ...

As for the rest of the off-topic comments and remarks:

With old hardware and outdated Windows versions (that have no security updates) LINUX is a no cost option. I installed Mint (12?) on a friend's old hp pavilion with xp on it a few years ago -- with 1G RAM and a single core Pentium it ran OK for limited consumer use.
I build my own hardware with superior components to most mid range consumer off-the-shelf computer systems and 'OEM' install LINUX.

If you think LINUX is a third world OS you are just arrogant. Android, Google's flavor of LINUX, is becoming the most used OS in the FIRST world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_...rating_systems

The Apple fan boi pays top money for a UNIX system developed by the BSD project at UC Berkeley that was funded by AT&T's ... Sciences Research Group (CSRG) of the University of California in Berkeley, CA and then granted into the public domain. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates just took parts of the code and and made it proprietary -- creating commercial empires -- bringing modern computing to persons with limited interest, or limited abilities, in computer device management. They found a good market and succeeded within it -- computer device management and eye-candy -- a more polished consumer product with a shiny hood and leather seats. Steve Jobs saw you coming and you bit hook, line and sinker ...

LINUX is for the l33t, we deal with the os code source, and how ever much we argue about our favored distros -- we are hard-to-the-core. Less than 3% of the word's Desktop computer operating systems, Android not included -- Android is Google Dumbed Down LINUX, server installations are excluded from this number, are real workstation or consumer use LINUX.



The Apple argument is a red herring in this thread;
however ... LINUX is used by NASA and is becoming the favored os used by universities and government operating units.

This begs the question, if iOS/OS X is so dammed good; why is iOS/OS X not widely used by universities and government operating units?

Google, NASA, CERN, US DoD and many other ''rocket scientists'' use the LINUX desktop.
@adultking ''If you want to live in the third world land of Linux on the desktop then go for it.'' -- condescending Apple fan boi. Go polish your MacBook -- your over priced status symbol :1orglaugh

Large scale users are not so interested these days in Windows either -- Windows seems to have its back against the wall and offering some native LINUX capabilities -- opening its closed doors to the cancer is proclaimed LINUX was.

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I use Lubuntu on a older TOSHIBA Satellite with a Intel Celeron 2.16 GHz) 2 GB Memory and the machine I'm on now is a older e machine not sure on the specks, picked it up on ebay for 65.00 and it works fine for what I need it to do.

My only issue is Chromium on the laptop for whatever reason crashes and freezes up where I have to hard boot. Installed FF and works great the last 6 months.

Lubuntu and Ubuntu has it purpose. Ubuntu serves more modern PC's. For older systems, may not be the best choice as it is somewhat heavy on your system, although most likely not as heavy as Windows.

Lubuntu is a nice alternative. Based on the LXDE environment which aims to be lightweight, still it's Ubuntu under the hood.
It's No Debian but it's what I prefer for older machines.

You also have Kubuntu and Xubuntu.
Have not played with those yet to give a opinion.

After reading this thread I spent all day yesterday installing Linux Mint on three different VM's, first install kept freezing up then realized it requires a lot more memory and disk space than a usual Debian install. I love the desktop interface so far and I'm thinking of putting it on my netbook, which is being so bogged down with Windows 7 and anti-virus software that's getting more and more difficult to work with.

I pulled the trigger on the Lenovo before I read the advice against it. I used Windows 10 advanced startup to boot into my USB and install Ubuntu. I guess UEFI instead of BIOS now?
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and yeah, Lenovo rocks:thumbsup

I highly recommend Lindows!

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unity launcher disturb me . i love unity without a launcher .

i like gnome over kde because it's more sexy .
you can hide the launcher .

The real question is why any pimps and bros on this board are using old hardware.