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ravenazrael 05-28-2016 06:22 PM

Why are sign ups closed on blacked.com affiliate program?
 
It's madcheddar

incredibleworkethic 05-28-2016 07:16 PM

I want in too. But they don't seem to want promotion. If that changes Blacked.com, please contact me! :P

generossisback 05-28-2016 09:54 PM

Try Negroed.com :2 cents:

Paul Markham 05-28-2016 10:45 PM

Because they don't want any tom, dick or harry signing up. Contact them direct and see if it's select affiliates or 100% no affiliates.

Maybe with a URL like this they're better off with inhouse people.

JPN 05-29-2016 02:39 AM

Same here.
I talked with Lizz (the affiliate manager) and confirmed they do not accept new signups.
That's why we cannot promote blacked.com on our review site.
What a shame...

CaptainHowdy 05-29-2016 08:15 AM

Bump for an answer ...

Smart Fred 05-29-2016 10:13 AM

That usually happens when a program makes enough sales on its own.

incredibleworkethic 05-29-2016 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20925368)
Because they don't want any tom, dick or harry signing up. Contact them direct and see if it's select affiliates or 100% no affiliates.

Maybe with a URL like this they're better off with inhouse people.

Possibly. I have a good sales record with my review site so far, it's a shame though. And I did contact :(.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPN (Post 20925524)
Same here.
I talked with Lizz (the affiliate manager) and confirmed they do not accept new signups.
That's why we cannot promote blacked.com on our review site.
What a shame...

Same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 20926121)
That usually happens when a program makes enough sales on its own.

Makes sense. Wish I could make them even more though :) :P! And I legit like the site.

Jigster715 05-29-2016 02:38 PM

Too many affiliates is not good for any program. They do not want you. Cry to mama.

Paul Markham 05-29-2016 10:33 PM

Why do affiliates think websites should be run for them?

This program has made a decision and we see webmasters bitching that they can't sign up. It's obvious they don't want you to. Also in 2016, it might be easier to get traffic in-house.

If I were to start a site today there's no way I would open it to affiliates. Better to create a product that can be marketed from in-house.

couchsurfer 05-30-2016 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigster715 (Post 20926487)
Too many affiliates is not good for any program. They do not want you. Cry to mama.


Can you elaborate on this statement? How can you have too many affiliates? I'm still a newb and I'm thinking of creating a paysite. I was planning to make an affiliate program just because I figured it means more money.

BigFurry 05-30-2016 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigster715 (Post 20926487)
Too many affiliates is not good for any program. They do not want you. Cry to mama.

Many would disagree. Almost all of the biggest sites have an open affiliate program.

So does Amazon.

It's a business decision that MadCheddar made. It could be a good one, but it could be a bad one too.

_Richard_ 05-30-2016 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchsurfer (Post 20927090)
Can you elaborate on this statement? How can you have too many affiliates? I'm still a newb and I'm thinking of creating a paysite. I was planning to make an affiliate program just because I figured it means more money.

not sure it's a matter of having too many affiliates, more of a way to create 'exclusivity' that can be used as branding for the affiliate program, as well as keeping your offers 'fresh' for your biggest affiliate. so an affiliate program business model?

if you have ever heard of the '80/20' rule, generally invite only is trying to target just the 20

Jigster715 05-30-2016 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchsurfer (Post 20927090)
Can you elaborate on this statement? How can you have too many affiliates? I'm still a newb and I'm thinking of creating a paysite. I was planning to make an affiliate program just because I figured it means more money.

At most affiliate sales will bring in 20-30% of your gross. If you are hoping to make an aff program, kick back and roll out the coke lines....not a good plan. You will still have to generate most of your sales. And from what I see with programs playing so many games with affiliates these, no tracking, changing program and not telling, skimming...Aff programs are struggling.

I would set up a simple program and invite the best players.

When programs become over saturated it hurts affiliates who make sales for that program. We make sales for madcheddar. I would prefer not to have to blacked and tushy content being thrown around everywhere like shot gun blasts. It diminishes sales for affils and the program in the long run.

It seems madcheddar feels the same way. :2 cents:

Jigster715 05-30-2016 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20927123)
Many would disagree. Almost all of the biggest sites have an open affiliate program.

So does Amazon.

It's a business decision that MadCheddar made. It could be a good one, but it could be a bad one too.

It really depends on the program. You are right in what you're saying. I think Richard above nailed it though as well. The blacked and tushy brands are the top brands for their niches at the moment.

Amazon is hard to sell unless you dedicate yourself full time and do some shady stuff. imo. I'm an affiliate there but I think pretty much the world just types in amazon and goes to the search bar. I could be wrong. Also their payout is jack shit. lol.

BigFurry 05-30-2016 01:00 AM

Amazon is actually super easy to sell. It's one of the most trusted websites that your visitors already shop at. Sometimes you send them to a link to buy a pack of clothespins, and they also add 20 sacks of dog food to the cart. :-) The hard part is getting traffic for it of course.

There is truth to what Richard says, but there are also some other factors to consider.

- affiliates also bring in tons of invisible sales through improving the brand's visibility

- the 80/20 may be true, but there's also a long tail for the rest of the affiliates.
ie. a lot of small affiliates can bring in a big amount of sales when combined

- it's not always easy to tell who the best affiliates will be, in advance, especially for a new program owner

As someone on the board said, the affiliate model is one of the cheapest methods to have hundreds or thousands of people working on figuring out what the best way is to market your product. Through lots of different channels - some that you will never think of yourself.
And you only have to pay them a commission when they're successful.

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Jigster715 05-30-2016 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20927177)
Amazon is actually super easy to sell. It's one of the most trusted websites that your visitors already shop at. Sometimes you send them to a link to buy a pack of clothespins, and they also add 20 sacks of dog food to the cart. :-) The hard part is getting traffic for it of course.

There is truth to what Richard says, but there are also some other factors to consider.

- affiliates also bring in tons of invisible sales through improving the brand's visibility

- the 80/20 may be true, but there's also a long tail for the rest of the affiliates.
ie. a lot of small affiliates can bring in a big amount of sales when combined

- it's not always easy to tell who the best affiliates will be, in advance, especially for a new program owner

As someone on the board said, the affiliate model is one of the cheapest methods to have hundreds or thousands of people working on figuring out what the best way is to market your product. Through lots of different channels - some that you will never think of yourself.
And you only have to pay them a commission when they're successful.

Anyone who has run an affiliate program knows there is a lot of ancillary expense to the program. For some it may not be worth it to cater to thousands but to a select few. :2 cents:

billyknows 05-30-2016 11:44 AM

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jscott 05-30-2016 12:03 PM

I see this at blacked.com

Quote:

Error 1008 Ray ID: 2axy08064e03ac ? 2016-05-30 19:01:16 UTC
Access denied
What happened?
The owner of this website (blacked.com) has banned your IP address (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx).
:error

Paul Markham 05-31-2016 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchsurfer (Post 20927090)
Can you elaborate on this statement? How can you have too many affiliates? I'm still a newb and I'm thinking of creating a paysite. I was planning to make an affiliate program just because I figured it means more money.

Because of the demands of affiliates. They want lots f content to give away as fast as they can. This gets your content out there, so if it's truly great, millions will jerk off to it for free and a handful will buy. Given affiliates want 50% of the gross, demand extra work from you, their costs will limit what you can spend on the product. Looked at the site Blacked.com Excellent front page. Could they afford to fly these guys out to Eastern Europe, don't think this quality of female model is in the US, and spend a lot of money catering for affiliates?

Comparing porn sites with Amazon is missing the point. Unless give away the goods.

Quote:

- affiliates also bring in tons of invisible sales through improving the brand's visibility
By putting free content on Tubes that convert 1-50,000 views. :upsidedow

This is 2002 thinking.

webgurl 05-31-2016 01:20 AM

Our affiliate program is not open to the public. I select only a few qualified affiliates to work with us. If you are interested in promoting our program, please hit me up. Contact is in the sig.
Cheers!

Jigster715 05-31-2016 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 20928416)
I see this at blacked.com



:error

Too much scrapin bro. Chillaxomatic on it. :thumbsup

BigFurry 05-31-2016 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20929316)
Given affiliates want 50% of the gross, demand extra work from you, their costs will limit what you can spend on the product.

Lots of sites have been super successful and have open affiliate signups at the same time. In fact 95% of the successful sites I see out there accept affiliates.

It seems like that some people manage. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20929316)
Because of the demands of affiliates. They want lots f content to give away as fast as they can. This gets your content out there, so if it's truly great, millions will jerk off to it for free and a handful will buy.
...
By putting free content on Tubes that convert 1-50,000 views. :upsidedow

This is not a discussion about whether to provide Tube clips for affiliates, or not. You can accept affiliates, and not allow that. There are many ways of promotion, Tubes are just one of them.

MichaelMC 05-31-2016 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigster715 (Post 20927231)
Anyone who has run an affiliate program knows there is a lot of ancillary expense to the program. For some it may not be worth it to cater to thousands but to a select few. :2 cents:

Everything Jigster wrote is why the program is invitation-only. Thank you for providing such a concise explanation based on your experiences.

Busty2 05-31-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20927123)
Almost all of the biggest sites have an open affiliate program.
So does Amazon.

Almost true but thanks to a degenerate Maine governor who still thinks its the 1900s. Amazon is not allowed to use or pay affiliates from this state ????

Phoenix 05-31-2016 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 20929403)
Our affiliate program is not open to the public. I select only a few qualified affiliates to work with us. If you are interested in promoting our program, please hit me up. Contact is in the sig.
Cheers!

Bow to the power:winkwink:

Paul Markham 05-31-2016 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20929418)
Lots of sites have been super successful and have open affiliate signups at the same time. In fact 95% of the successful sites I see out there accept affiliates.

It seems like that some people manage. ;)

And it seems this site doesn't want to.

Quote:

This is not a discussion about whether to provide Tube clips for affiliates, or not. You can accept affiliates, and not allow that. There are many ways of promotion, Tubes are just one of them.
And it seems this site doesn't want to.

That's my point. There's no reason they should throw their doors open to anyone.

This is a class site, they spend a lot of providing a class product. I can see why some want to be an affiliate and catch people who are already aware. On the day, they decide to join.

BigFurry 05-31-2016 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20929850)
And it seems this site doesn't want to.

Yes, and that is their decision. As any business, they are free to choose their business model.

However, you said that A) it's not profitable to have affiliates B) if you add affiliates, you are automatically losing money on the extra work C) affiliates equal tube videos.

Those things are not true.

Roald 05-31-2016 08:05 AM

Dragging people into pointless discussions, good to see you still have it Paul!!!

CaptainHowdy 05-31-2016 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20929895)
Dragging people into pointless discussions, good to see you still have it Paul!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

https://diaspora-fr.org/camo/a6c1c68...3530302e6a7067

BoomBoomBenoit 05-31-2016 11:04 AM

My only comment on this thread is we WANT to work with affiliates. We believe affiliates are still relevant and powerful in this industry.

I invite any affiliate of any experience level to connect with me and we'll help support and grow business together - even if blacked won't.

BoomBoomBenoit 05-31-2016 02:04 PM

P.S: Sorry for thread jacking.

Also, to be clear, I'm not implying that blacked doesn't want to work with affiliates at all!

They have one of the best brands in the biz right now (if not THE best) and it makes sense that they'd like to be selective about who they want to work with.

310playa 05-31-2016 02:16 PM

Cause they don't want to work with scrubs that degrade their content and don't make sales, obviously.

Paul Markham 06-01-2016 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20929880)
Yes, and that is their decision. As any business, they are free to choose their business model.

However, you said that A) it's not profitable to have affiliates B) if you add affiliates, you are automatically losing money on the extra work C) affiliates equal tube videos.

Those things are not true.

A) Having so many people give away the product in such huge quantity. Is the biggest mistake this industry made.

B) See A

C) See A

Over the years, I have seen the harm the affiliate model has done. 1,000s of companies were unable to buy a decent product because of the cost of this model. Look around at who is left and who were the first to fall off the tree. This was in the days when if someone threw enough traffic, some would buy.

Today it needs a different approach. Maybe a few select affiliates, maybe in-house affiliates, maybe a combination. The days of having 100s of affiliates throwing traffic at a site and hoping are long gone.

Unless a company has a product that worked in 2005.

Paul Markham 06-01-2016 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20929895)
Dragging people into pointless discussions, good to see you still have it Paul!!!

They're sheeple. :1orglaugh

ha33y 01-20-2018 01:46 AM

Madcheddar doesnt pay so it is good for you if they dont accept you.

CaptainHowdy 01-20-2018 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha33y (Post 22170988)
Madcheddar doesnt pay so it is good for you if they dont accept you.

That would be the last nail in the coffin of the porn affiliate model ...

mhende6600 01-20-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ha33y (Post 22170988)
Madcheddar doesnt pay so it is good for you if they dont accept you.

I have been waiting for payment for months, they never answer emails or support tickets

LouiseLloyd 01-20-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20929895)
Dragging people into pointless discussions, good to see you still have it Paul!!!

Last week dying, this week trolling, same old Paul. :1orglaugh

BigFurry 01-22-2018 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhende6600 (Post 22171672)
I have been waiting for payment for months, they never answer emails or support tickets

Damn that sucks.

Weird though, we've always been paid automatically so far. Never had to ask.

Not sending them big volumes though, and haven't reached the minimum payment since September.

dDan 01-22-2018 03:42 AM

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Daniel Piers 01-22-2018 03:57 AM

Were paid fully in December, the last payment stored on 16th of Jan hasn't been paid so far but they usually pay after 2 weeks.

I believe they pay normally and your issue is a custom one.

Grisey 01-22-2018 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20929316)

By putting free content on Tubes that convert 1-50,000 views. :upsidedow

This is 2002 thinking.

This is where most of there traffic comes from

https://www.xvideos.com/profiles/blacked_com

They only want affiliates if you can send 20/40 a sales a day, they only want whales.

Or members area traffic from people like paperstreetcash, or anyone else willing to do xsells or anything else to send 20/40 sales a day

Grisey 01-22-2018 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20931875)
A) Having so many people give away the product in such huge quantity. Is the biggest mistake this industry made.
.

https://www.xvideos.com/profiles/tushy_com#_tabVideos

They give away all there videos for free

https://www.pornhub.com/channels/blacked/videos?o=da 269 videos 12 minutes each one
https://www.pornhub.com/channels/tushy 188 videos

Paul you talk shit.

I've also heard they are very slow in paying actual affiliates.

ha33y 01-23-2018 01:44 AM

Guys i reached the minimum payout two months ago and i was talking with Darren and he is having every kind of excuses just not to pay, i am telling you this cause i dont want you to be scammmed like me.

geirlur 01-23-2018 03:21 AM

They paid me yesterday..

CaptainHowdy 01-23-2018 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geirlur (Post 22175479)
They paid me yesterday..

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...12/12/amen.gif

mhende6600 01-23-2018 03:10 PM

Any legit contact info for them?


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