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MrMaxwell 05-30-2016 10:57 AM

My bright idea for YOUTUBE content didn't work
 
I was going to upload old public domain expired copyright films and movies
Some of those idiots are getting a lot of views doing that, but
BAM they ALL either get rejected OR you can't use hardly ANY of the audio

What I did was I used winHTTrack to download a website full of the torrent files, then I was going to download all of the lowest quality versions (950 of them) so I could get them all uploaded and downloaded very quickly

Then I was going to determine which ones were the most popular and without copyright restrictions/issues and re-upload whichever those were in higher quality

But then the 20 or so test files I uploaded (highest quality I could find) all had huge issues and I think if I do the other 900+ my account will just get banned

So back to the drawing board for youtube
FFS

MrMaxwell 05-30-2016 10:59 AM

That said, if someone knew a bit more than I do about proxies and VPNs, and bought some accounts from bhw, you could probably mass upload to junk accounts to test files through the bot
It could probably still work but I don't think it's worth the work
They get a lot of views but ONLY if they have a LOT of those old films
They're not popular or high traffic or anything like that

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 11:05 AM

What a waste of time.
Just turn on a web cam and do stupid shit for 3 minutes and upload it.
You only make about .85 cent per 1000 views anyway.
So 100k views is usually less than $100.
Good luck getting 10k views on a video.

Maybe there is a "break point" where the video starts to go viral and the ad rates increase and you make good money; but if not, then it's chump change.

MrMaxwell 05-30-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928239)
What a waste of time.
Just turn on a web cam and do stupid shit for 3 minutes and upload it.
You only make about .85 cent per 1000 views anyway.
So 100k views is usually less than $100.
Good luck getting 10k views on a video.

Maybe there is a "break point" where the video starts to go viral and the ad rates increase and you make good money; but if not, then it's chump change.

You should be north of $2 cpm with regular overlay ads
The video ads, if you can get them to play on your channel, its fucking sick - $15-$35CPM!!

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928239)
What a waste of time.
Just turn on a web cam and do stupid shit for 3 minutes and upload it.
You only make about .85 cent per 1000 views anyway.
So 100k views is usually less than $100.
Good luck getting 10k views on a video.

Maybe there is a "break point" where the video starts to go viral and the ad rates increase and you make good money; but if not, then it's chump change.

I have an account with loads of videos over 10k, one has 1,188,780 views at the moment. unfortunately, its not a monetised account as its clips from films and that sort of thing. It just has links to my sites in the descriptions.

MrBottomTooth 05-30-2016 11:25 AM

So expired copyright or public domain films were still triggering copyright flags which kept you from monetizing them?

Colmike9 05-30-2016 11:29 AM

Make the video again but with the pitch +1 then test, then -1 and test, then +2 and test until you can get your video posted without the audio being removed and with minimal altering of the original...
(In a video editor, ofc..)

Nicky 05-30-2016 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 20928269)
The video ads, if you can get them to play on your channel, its fucking sick - $15-$35CPM!!

Not easy to get though

Colmike9 05-30-2016 11:33 AM

Start small and interesting and keep building your subscribers like everyone else, though..

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20928323)
So expired copyright or public domain films were still triggering copyright flags which kept you from monetizing them?

re-encoding them and changing the music on the silent films would have worked, I bet.

Hannes 05-30-2016 11:37 AM

just try make a viral video to get popular, everyone doing it nowadays...

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20928311)
I have an account with loads of videos over 10k, one has 1,188,780 views at the moment. unfortunately, its not a monetised account as its clips from films and that sort of thing. It just has links to my sites in the descriptions.

Yeah, no shit it's not monetized.
Your account will be deleted when you apply.

You have "loads" of 10k vids.
What's a load, 100 vids.

100 vids times $10 = $1k

How long did it take for the vids to get to 10k?
A year?

MrMaxwell 05-30-2016 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20928323)
So expired copyright or public domain films were still triggering copyright flags which kept you from monetizing them?

Yes, almost all of them had audio copyright claims (several had 5+) and some had huge blocks of the visual content it flagged
I coverted most of them before upload but I didn't do any time shifts or anything

MrMaxwell 05-30-2016 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928359)
Yeah, no shit it's not monetized.
Your account will be deleted when you apply.

You have "loads" of 10k vids.
What's a load, 100 vids.

100 vids times $10 = $1k

How long did it take for the vids to get to 10k?
A year?

I think he may be saying that he's linking to something profitable
I think

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20928323)
So expired copyright or public domain films were still triggering copyright flags which kept you from monetizing them?

Don't ever count on any TV show or movie being "public domain".
Somebody can still figure a way to buy the broadcast rights to a lot of stuff.

MrBottomTooth 05-30-2016 11:43 AM

Their copyright system is shady. I even got a copyright claim on one video that was up for over a year and had music provided from the royalty free music section that they provide. Of course since the video had been up for over a year they wouldn't let me edit the music out anymore. Lesson learned: don't use shit from their royalty free music section.

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 20928371)
I think he may be saying that he's linking to something profitable
I think

I heard that; but it's probably better to just buy ads on youtube than upload a bunch of
stuff and pray for views.

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928359)
Yeah, no shit it's not monetized.
Your account will be deleted when you apply.

You have "loads" of 10k vids.
What's a load, 100 vids.

100 vids times $10 = $1k

How long did it take for the vids to get to 10k?
A year?

the one million views upload has been up for two years, its was one of the first uploaded, so most are younger than that.

some of the others are, a 5 month old clip on 11,000 views, a 11 month old clip on
69,000 views and a year old one on 422,000 views.
There's only 25 clips up on this account, mainly because I keep forgetting about it.

That okay?

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928392)
I heard that; but it's probably better to just buy ads on youtube than upload a bunch of
stuff and pray for views.

it probably is but the main reason I made the account in the fist place was more for having some good social media backlinks.

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:48 AM

Oh and btw, my best views on my monetised account is 3k! But that's partly due to the fact those videos was an experiment in making some of those top 10 type clips.

rogueteens 05-30-2016 11:48 AM

I'm only posting for a green name now! :D

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20928404)
I'm only posting for a green name now! :D

You got mad, that's all. It's ok.

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 05-30-2016 12:09 PM

The latest trend is splicing 2 similarly themed and/or paced movies together in 30 second or 1 minute intervals and changing the pitch as well as isolating "rogue peaks" modifying the levels to change the "fingerprint" enough to pass the publishing precheck.

ravenazrael 05-30-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928239)
What a waste of time.
Just turn on a web cam and do stupid shit for 3 minutes and upload it.
You only make about .85 cent per 1000 views anyway.
So 100k views is usually less than $100.
Good luck getting 10k views on a video.

Maybe there is a "break point" where the video starts to go viral and the ad rates increase and you make good money; but if not, then it's chump change.

I know people who can help videos go viral, but they take 30% of the revenue... hit me up and show me the content so I can tell you if they would be interested and hook you up

Bladewire 05-30-2016 12:17 PM

Do you have a tube site Mr. Maxwell?

rogueteens 05-30-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928410)
You got mad, that's all. It's ok.

:1orglaugh

LOL, just a bit annoyed, that's all.

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenazrael (Post 20928446)
I know people who can help videos go viral, but they take 30% of the revenue... hit me up and show me the content so I can tell you if they would be interested and hook you up

I don't think I have any vids worthy of going viral, even with a lot of help.

I don't plan on working too hard for youtube because so far that's all I'm doing with my vids.

baddog 05-30-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928239)
What a waste of time.
Just turn on a web cam and do stupid shit for 3 minutes and upload it.
You only make about .85 cent per 1000 views anyway.
So 100k views is usually less than $100.
Good luck getting 10k views on a video.
.



To be honest, the number has jumped a lot from the last time I checked. I thought I was around 10k

ErectMedia 05-30-2016 12:55 PM

Only thing I've got up on youtube is concert footage from the front row. They let it ride and don't delete it but the record labels claim the ads on the videos which is fine as didn't do it for money and still a link to my own mainstream site in the description. :2 cents:

blackmonsters 05-30-2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20928491)


To be honest, the number has jumped a lot from the last time I checked. I thought I was around 10k

I'm just saying that a vid with under 100k views is not worth a lot of effort to produce.
And most vids, unless you are featured, have a slow road to even 10k.

If you can keep getting those type of views with that much effort, as in that video, then that's a WIN!

But if you include ALL the work you did on the bike then that video was not cheap to make.

clickity click 05-30-2016 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 20928209)
I was going to upload old public domain expired copyright films and movies
Some of those idiots are getting a lot of views doing that, but
BAM they ALL either get rejected OR you can't use hardly ANY of the audio

What I did was I used winHTTrack to download a website full of the torrent files, then I was going to download all of the lowest quality versions (950 of them) so I could get them all uploaded and downloaded very quickly

Then I was going to determine which ones were the most popular and without copyright restrictions/issues and re-upload whichever those were in higher quality

But then the 20 or so test files I uploaded (highest quality I could find) all had huge issues and I think if I do the other 900+ my account will just get banned

So back to the drawing board for youtube
FFS

I thought you were slowing the video or audio down a fraction so it was virtually undetectable to the naked eye but would fool Youtube?

crockett 05-30-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928515)
I'm just saying that a vid with under 100k views is not worth a lot of effort to produce.
And most vids, unless you are featured, have a slow road to even 10k.

If you can keep getting those type of views with that much effort, as in that video, then that's a WIN!

But if you include ALL the work you did on the bike then that video was not cheap to make.

You are looking at it wrong. Don't focus on getting 100k to one vid. Do new vids each day and you will gain enough subs to get 10k views per vid per day in a reasonable amount of time. Once you get to 20k subs, it sort of snowballs and you will be at 40k in half the time unless you get lucky.

DBS.US 05-30-2016 06:31 PM

Tip: Get a domain for your Youtube home page, Watermark every video with your domain, Put a text link to your domain in every videos description box, When you get banned and Youtube locks you out of your account you will still get traffic to your domain that you can send to your new Youtube home page.

baddog 05-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20928515)
I'm just saying that a vid with under 100k views is not worth a lot of effort to produce.
And most vids, unless you are featured, have a slow road to even 10k.

If you can keep getting those type of views with that much effort, as in that video, then that's a WIN!

But if you include ALL the work you did on the bike then that video was not cheap to make.

I bought it that way; but that wasn't exactly cheap

Paul Markham 05-30-2016 11:36 PM

Content is king. You have to have good content though.


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