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Barry-xlovecam 06-16-2016 04:32 PM

Ad blocker usage chart
 
I think for "adult" the real numbers are higher :2 cents:



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Bladewire 06-16-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20968741)
I think for "adult" the real numbers are higher :2 cents:



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Great post good to know :thumbsup

I agree, has to be bigger in adult.

Markul 06-16-2016 08:50 PM

Around 50-60% in adult..

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 09:56 PM

Nothing to worry about. People who use adblockers don't want to see ads because they don't want to buy what's advertised.

If you're buying traffic by clicks, they save you money. If you're buying and hoping someone will buy. They save you even more money.

Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20969011)
Around 50-60% in adult..

That is what I am hearing too ...

Paul Markham 06-17-2016 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20969344)
That is what I am hearing too ...

Do they sell ad space on a per click or per view basis?

Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20969068)
Nothing to worry about. People who use adblockers don't want to see ads because they don't want to buy what's advertised.

If you're buying traffic by clicks, they save you money. If you're buying and hoping someone will buy. They save you even more money.

Paul, it's hard to buy PPC (pay per click) ads in porn. Click fraud is an issue too :2 cents:

We buy AdWords CPC for cams -- Google is ok with that (ads for adult cams) but the CPC keeps going up. Directive advertising has high conversion rates. Most web ads do not. Why do you think GOOGL is worth what it is?

Did you know that the CPC for domain registration AdWords is $10 to $15 a click now WTF? Even if 1 in 3 register that may generate only $20 a year in revenue. Maybe the average account acquisition is more like $100 per/year? IDK but even if that is true that advertising cost is huge.

Ad blockers affect 3rd party ads -- I buy ads served direct on websites with good traffic volume.

Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 03:00 AM

That is murky. I have real time nosql (hadoop) tracking on ads billed as served CPM and the ability to track actual CTR by the person who is referred by IP.


I can see what ads create CTR; from what advertiser page; and what pages on our sites are viewed -- right down to the individual model and sometimes the duration.

If I have the time or the inclination to do so :2 cents: We have other people doing this as part of their full time jobs.

Jigster715 06-17-2016 03:19 AM

This is well worth a review. Great post, Op.

There is a youtube video of the conference these powerpoints were made for.

Mary Meeker's 2016 internet trends report: All the slides, plus analysis - Recode

I think countries with high mobile usage vs desktop are not seeing most ads. Japan is listed at 10% for adblockers because hardly anyone uses a desktop anymore outside of work. No flash, no pops.

j3rkules 06-17-2016 06:56 AM

It is only going to grow from there...

Paul Markham 06-17-2016 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20969374)
Paul, it's hard to buy PPC (pay per click) ads in porn. Click fraud is an issue too :2 cents:

We buy AdWords CPC for cams -- Google is ok with that (ads for adult cams) but the CPC keeps going up. Directive advertising has high conversion rates. Most web ads do not. Why do you think GOOGL is worth what it is?

Did you know that the CPC for domain registration AdWords is $10 to $15 a click now WTF? Even if 1 in 3 register that may generate only $20 a year in revenue. Maybe the average account acquisition is more like $100 per/year? IDK but even if that is true that advertising cost is huge.

Ad blockers affect 3rd party ads -- I buy ads served direct on websites with good traffic volume.

The price of this style of ads is determined by the conversion of traffic from those ads. If people can convert at 1-3 and get $200 from that conversion. They out price you.

So work on your selling before worrying about traffic.

Paul Markham 06-17-2016 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20969428)
That is murky. I have real time nosql (hadoop) tracking on ads billed as served CPM and the ability to track actual CTR by the person who is referred by IP.


I can see what ads create CTR; from what advertiser page; and what pages on our sites are viewed -- right down to the individual model and sometimes the duration.

If I have the time or the inclination to do so :2 cents: We have other people doing this as part of their full time jobs.

It's essential for someone to itemise down to the last click why one girl converts better than another and why some girls get such great traffic without affiliates, they don't bother with the affiliate, studio, publisher system.

As you point out, it's tough for you to pay the price others can pay. Why is that?

As Jerkule says it's only going to get worse, maybe to the point of bringing down Tubes. For now their traffic converts well enough for them to sell ads and fund their free porn system. So look at ways of marketing that isn't relant on slinging traffic and hoping.


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