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dyna mo 06-26-2016 03:31 PM

Boris is kaput. Brexit won't happen. Cameron triggered the article 50 doomsday notice.
 
i inquired in another GFY thread what Brexit meant for Boris and no one replied. well, here you go

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs...xitcomment.jpg

Struggle4Bucks 06-26-2016 03:49 PM

I wonder which cock Boris just sucked...it appears it jammed his jaw... Anyone knows the size of Donald Tusk' cock?

https://65.media.tumblr.com/14e43be5...zrko1_1280.jpg

crockett 06-26-2016 03:50 PM

This is very typical of conservatives. Reacting before engaging the brain. Seems a common trait amongst them even across the pond..

dyna mo 06-26-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20989597)
This is very typical of conservatives. Reacting before engaging the brain. Seems a common trait amongst them even across the pond..

so is there or is there not a need to trigger article 50 straight away?

crockett 06-26-2016 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20989612)
so is there or is there not a need to trigger article 50 straight away?

I dunno British politics nor do I pretend to know. What I do know, is the Brexit, was a obvious "one issue" vote by those in favor and that was a anti-immigration vote because they are tired of the Muslim influx..

What I said previously, is they would soon find out there were many more ramifications by voting to leave than just solving immigration issues. I said then they would figure that out the hard way.. Seems they are starting to figure that out..

Hannes 06-26-2016 04:12 PM

i don't think the people actually thought about the after-effects of their decision to leave the EU.

Barry-xlovecam 06-26-2016 04:58 PM

From what I have read:
  1. Technically, the Brexit Referendum is not binding however Parliament is expected to assent to the democratic vote of the citizens of the UK.
  2. Only Parliament can trigger Article 50 of The Treaty of Lisbon -- and say we are OUT! In 72 hours or 7 years -- look forward to acrimonious debate in Parliament. I think, not sure, that the bill will have to be approved in the House of Commons, then be endorsed by the House of Lords and then get Queen's assent -- then it is official.
  3. At that point the clock starts 2 years of limbo then the EU can say we don't agree to your terms -- you have no rights other than to leave the voluntary association of the EU. In other words Fuck off Brits -- you are on your own economically -- you now need a visa to visit the countries of the EU.


The EU and UK could also enter into some trading block agreement like the US-Canada-Mexico NAFTA. There are visitor visas granted usually automatically between the US Canada and Mexico-- but there is no right of residency -- you must follow the immigration laws or stay illegally.

There may be no B2B VAT tax nor tariff or duty reciprocity. This has to be negotiated during the 2 years and if not agreed to -- so what.

NATO will probably not change much but the British might lose their strong policy prerogatives as part of the EU.

bronco67 06-26-2016 05:05 PM

If this is true, will is return all of the billions lost in the stock market?

Barry-xlovecam 06-26-2016 05:15 PM

The stock markets are oversold and values inflated, IMHO.

I cannot yet see the next 3000 point move in the DJI. Even odds that occurs by 2017 or 2019.
The Great Trump Depression or the Hillary Recession :upsidedow

Either way a big sellout may be coming.

Business cycles are 5 to 8 years historically :2 cents:

Bladewire 06-26-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20989699)
From what I have read:
  1. Technically, the Brexit Referendum is not binding however Parliament is expected to assent to the democratic vote of the citizens of the UK.
  2. Only Parliament can trigger Article 50 of The Treaty of Lisbon -- and say we are OUT! In 72 hours or 7 years -- look forward to acrimonious debate in Parliament. I think, not sure, that the bill will have to be approved in the House of Commons, then be endorsed by the House of Lords and then get Queen's assent -- then it is official.
  3. At that point the clock starts 2 years of limbo then the EU can say we don't agree to your terms -- you have no rights other than to leave the voluntary association of the EU. In other words Fuck off Brits -- you are on your own economically -- you now need a visa to visit the countries of the EU.


The EU and UK could also enter into some trading block agreement like the US-Canada-Mexico NAFTA. There are visitor visas granted usually automatically between the US Canada and Mexico-- but there is no right of residency -- you must follow the immigration laws or stay illegally.

There may be no B2B VAT tax nor tariff or duty reciprocity. This has to be negotiated during the 2 years and if not agreed to -- so what.

NATO will probably not change much but the British might lose their strong policy prerogatives as part of the EU.

Yet another awesome post by Barry, Damn dude impressed!

dyna mo 06-26-2016 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20989699)
From what I have read:
  1. Technically, the Brexit Referendum is not binding however Parliament is expected to assent to the democratic vote of the citizens of the UK.
  2. Only Parliament can trigger Article 50 of The Treaty of Lisbon -- and say we are OUT! In 72 hours or 7 years -- look forward to acrimonious debate in Parliament. I think, not sure, that the bill will have to be approved in the House of Commons, then be endorsed by the House of Lords and then get Queen's assent -- then it is official.
  3. At that point the clock starts 2 years of limbo then the EU can say we don't agree to your terms -- you have no rights other than to leave the voluntary association of the EU. In other words Fuck off Brits -- you are on your own economically -- you now need a visa to visit the countries of the EU.


The EU and UK could also enter into some trading block agreement like the US-Canada-Mexico NAFTA. There are visitor visas granted usually automatically between the US Canada and Mexico-- but there is no right of residency -- you must follow the immigration laws or stay illegally.

There may be no B2B VAT tax nor tariff or duty reciprocity. This has to be negotiated during the 2 years and if not agreed to -- so what.

NATO will probably not change much but the British might lose their strong policy prerogatives as part of the EU.

so who's going to push the button or not? the article suggests it's political suicide either way.

Joshua G 06-26-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20989627)
I dunno British politics nor do I pretend to know. What I do know, is the Brexit, was a obvious "one issue" vote by those in favor and that was a anti-immigration vote because they are tired of the Muslim influx..

you just pretended to know...moron :1orglaugh

JamesM83 06-26-2016 08:04 PM

And England will win the Euro 2016 lol! All a bunch of bogus!

Barry-xlovecam 06-26-2016 09:07 PM

I am looking forward to the acrimony in the UK Parliament.
Angela Merkel wants the Brexit fast and dignified.
Putin is enjoying to see the family dispute brewing in the EU -- a weak and disoriented EU is a good thing to him.
There may be other members in the EU that say if the UK can leave we can too.

What if California or New York could just walk away from the USA? That would be the same as this Brexit. The EU is a weak federation of nation states, The USA is one nation indivisible.

Life is uncharted territory. It reveals its story one moment at a time. -- Leo Buscaglia

JFK 06-26-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20989594)
I wonder which cock Boris just sucked...it appears it jammed his jaw... Anyone knows the size of Donald Tusk' cock?

https://65.media.tumblr.com/14e43be5...zrko1_1280.jpg

:1orglaugh Pretty small, google it :Graucho

Paul Markham 06-26-2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20989612)
so is there or is there not a need to trigger article 50 straight away?

No there is not. It's up to the UK to decide when they trigger it.

European leaders are scared the vote of British people will make their people ask for a similar vote. So looking tough to scare their people.

The EU isn't about Europeans. It's an organisation that wants to rule Europeans.

There is no reason Europeans can't trade with each other without having a centralised government ruling it.

This is how silly it gets. China has just threatened the UK it could take 10 years to set up a new Trade Deal with the UK. This would mean China can't sell goods to the UK and lose billions a month in sales. Or even get cut from selling their subsidised steel to the UK. In order to close down world steel production so they dominate the industry.

Beware this is what the EU and other big organisations have led us to.

klinton 06-26-2016 11:18 PM

HUGE when he is around Angela Markel ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20989594)
I wonder which cock Boris just sucked...it appears it jammed his jaw... Anyone knows the size of Donald Tusk' cock?

https://65.media.tumblr.com/14e43be5...zrko1_1280.jpg


NatalieK 06-27-2016 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20990098)
No there is not. It's up to the UK to decide when they trigger it.

& at the moment, no one thinks the UK will do this :2 cents:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ers-article-50



So until Britain begins the process, nothing is done & it's just hear say. It also seems that Brussels will not discuss the vote to leave with the UK until they have triggered the article 50 :2 cents:

nico-t 06-27-2016 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20989627)
I dunno British politics nor do I pretend to know. What I do know, is the Brexit, was a obvious "one issue" vote by those in favor and that was a anti-immigration vote because they are tired of the Muslim influx..

What I said previously, is they would soon find out there were many more ramifications by voting to leave than just solving immigration issues. I said then they would figure that out the hard way.. Seems they are starting to figure that out..

Political genius has spoken. 52% of United Kingdom, you were wrong.

Mutt 06-27-2016 04:28 AM

They will never negotiate the terms of Britain's departure in 2 short years, which means Britain just leaves and let the chips fall where they may. It will be rocky times for the UK.

My question is why did they ever want to be part of the EU? The US/Canada/Mexico has a free trade pact - nobody in Canada or the US would want to be part of a North American Union where some political body of unelected bureaucrats is making laws and regulations for them.

Relic 06-27-2016 04:39 AM

It will trigger something..

Barry-xlovecam 06-27-2016 04:56 AM

The European stock markets are down again

Sterling, stocks take another Brexit :: oil, yen rise | Reuters

Eat the rich LMAO -- the sucking noise you hear is the money leaving the UK and Europe finding safe harbor in Switzerland, the USA and Japan. GBP is down another 2% ... so far ...

The Euro is up, the Yen is up, the US Dollar is up -- the GBP has shit the bed.

ianmoone332000 06-27-2016 08:43 AM

Trigger it as soon as possible to get us out ASAP. Quicker we are out, quicker we can start our own trade negotiations with places like Canada, USA, China, Brazil. The EU accounts for 15% of the population. Get out there as soon as possible and get things started with the other 85%. Plus we will have some sort of trade deal with the 15% of the EU. This country is gonna be bomming in a few years from now. Plus we dont even have to hand the decisions and laws over to other countries that will frankly always put themselves before us

redwhiteandblue 06-27-2016 09:15 AM

Looks like it will be done after the 2nd September when the new PM is in place.

k0nr4d 06-27-2016 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 20990947)
Trigger it as soon as possible to get us out ASAP. Quicker we are out, quicker we can start our own trade negotiations with places like Canada, USA, China, Brazil. The EU accounts for 15% of the population. Get out there as soon as possible and get things started with the other 85%. Plus we will have some sort of trade deal with the 15% of the EU. This country is gonna be bomming in a few years from now. Plus we dont even have to hand the decisions and laws over to other countries that will frankly always put themselves before us

And the best part? You won't have to see those damned "cookie notifications" on every fucking website.

JFK 06-27-2016 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relic (Post 20990518)
It will trigger something..

The referendum result is not binding, it is advisory:2 cents::thumbsup

marcop 06-27-2016 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20989699)
From what I have read:
  1. Technically, the Brexit Referendum is not binding however Parliament is expected to assent to the democratic vote of the citizens of the UK.
  2. Only Parliament can trigger Article 50 of The Treaty of Lisbon -- and say we are OUT! In 72 hours or 7 years -- look forward to acrimonious debate in Parliament. I think, not sure, that the bill will have to be approved in the House of Commons, then be endorsed by the House of Lords and then get Queen's assent -- then it is official.
  3. At that point the clock starts 2 years of limbo then the EU can say we don't agree to your terms -- you have no rights other than to leave the voluntary association of the EU. In other words Fuck off Brits -- you are on your own economically -- you now need a visa to visit the countries of the EU.


The EU and UK could also enter into some trading block agreement like the US-Canada-Mexico NAFTA. There are visitor visas granted usually automatically between the US Canada and Mexico-- but there is no right of residency -- you must follow the immigration laws or stay illegally.

There may be no B2B VAT tax nor tariff or duty reciprocity. This has to be negotiated during the 2 years and if not agreed to -- so what.

NATO will probably not change much but the British might lose their strong policy prerogatives as part of the EU.

On point #1 above, a lot of Leave voters have buyer's remorse over the result, so if there was an election today the result might well be a win for Remain.

My sister is a good example: she was all over FB for a month before the referendum and all day Friday; since then: silence. She actually voted on one issue: immigration, and had no idea about the serious problems leaving the EU would create (like the breakup of the UK, the possible breakup of Europe if other nations follow the UK's lead, etc.). We spoke yesterday and she told me she feels misled by the Leave campaigners, and is really angry about it. It seems a lot of people are.

Barry-xlovecam 06-27-2016 10:09 AM

The GBP is off 1.67% on the spot market and down to
1.3215 -0.0445 (-3.25%)

2016-06-27 12:47:11, 10 min delay

http://quotes.ino.com/charting/intra...f&w=15&a=2&v=w

In less that 2 trading days? :helpme

:thumbsup US Dollar Index is rockin'

http://quotes.ino.com/charting/intra...f&w=15&a=2&v=w

dyna mo 06-27-2016 10:14 AM

i'm fascinating with boris johnson! ever since i saw him on top gear!

his first official words on the matter since the vote. he's all in

I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe and always will be

so i guess that 350 million pounds/day the uk was spending to be in the EU will go to NHS?

dyna mo 06-27-2016 10:17 AM

well, it appears they're not all all in.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...gest-promises/

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/im...BRITAIN-EU.jpg

crockett 06-27-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20990098)
No there is not. It's up to the UK to decide when they trigger it.

European leaders are scared the vote of British people will make their people ask for a similar vote. So looking tough to scare their people.

The EU isn't about Europeans. It's an organisation that wants to rule Europeans.

There is no reason Europeans can't trade with each other without having a centralised government ruling it.

This is how silly it gets. China has just threatened the UK it could take 10 years to set up a new Trade Deal with the UK. This would mean China can't sell goods to the UK and lose billions a month in sales. Or even get cut from selling their subsidised steel to the UK. In order to close down world steel production so they dominate the industry.

Beware this is what the EU and other big organisations have led us to.

The EU was not just about control, but also to stop Euro countries from competing with one another militarily. Ie to not have a WW3.

Keeping each other in the same boat means no one was likely to Rock it..

NatalieK 06-27-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20991232)
The EU was not just about control, but also to stop Euro countries from competing with one another militarily. Ie to not have a WW3.

Keeping each other in the same boat means no one was likely to Rock it..


:thumbsup

NatalieK 06-27-2016 11:59 AM

interesting read...


I cannot stress too much that Britain is part of Europe ? and always will be *

dyna mo 06-27-2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20991232)
The EU was not just about control, but also to stop Euro countries from competing with one another militarily. Ie to not have a WW3.

Keeping each other in the same boat means no one was likely to Rock it..


where do you come up with this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20991343)


already posted.


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