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mobstriker 07-07-2016 11:58 AM

Paperstreetcash PPS scam. Beware!
 
Hello!

I'm almost 3 years in business. Today I meet first scam in my adult career))

Here is the history)

One day I saw here Paperstreetcash.
I didn't work with these guys before.
I decided to try them. I was sending traffic to them until I reached minimum payout.
It was $120. The hold was one month and I returned to my old aff. program.
This week I expected first payout.

But instead I saw first email from Zak))

Quote:

This is Zak from PaperStreetCash.com. I am contacting you today because unfortunately your account has been flagged for suspicious traffic and/or sales.

I've been reviewing your account, and a few things jump out as suspicious to us. We must clarify these issues with you before we can send out any payments.

First, your account does not have a live URL listed. ..... is not a live site, and is clearly not how you are driving traffic to our sites. Secondly, the traffic you have sent us appears quite odd. It is not consistent at all, with more than 15,000 unique hits coming from 5/18/16 - 5/26/16, and little to no traffic outside of that. Further, we cannot determine from where we are receiving these unique hits. Your referring URLs do not show any sites that you have to promote our content, only google/search engine URLs from various countries.

Of course, I sent my answer. I planned to register my own staff site. Maybe later i'll do it.
In your settings this is company url, but not url from which affiliate should send traffic.


This is my stat with them.

http://i.imgur.com/DKn3nLw.png


And today I received the final email))

Quote:

Good Afternoon,

After further review of your account, sales, and traffic, we've come to the conclusion that the sales we've received from you were not made in good faith and we will be refunding your members for the following reasons:
1. Member IP addresses and join IP addresses not matching.
2. Suspicious members area activity/inactivity; and
3. referral URLs not showing a proper traffic source - all referring URLs are search engine links, there are no discernable sources of traffic.
As such, we cannot make pay you the amount that would be owed to you had these sales and traffic been legitimate.
1. I don't know what ips you mean. I sent you 20K real human users. I think Zak you invented this reason during morning beer))
2. What does this mean Suspicious members. If you can't interested your customers - is it my problem?
3. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

If you think, that you have right insult me by your dirty suspicions - you're wrong. You are not first with whome I make deal in this business.

You lie because you don't want to pay. I worked honestly and you not, man. Oh, sorry - you are not a man - you are scammer.

Paper_Zak 07-07-2016 12:11 PM

I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex.
 
I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

mobstriker 07-07-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak (Post 21014620)
I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

bla bla bla. No proof at all. Just your words.

Major (Tom) 07-07-2016 12:36 PM

Sounds like Zak did his due diligence.

C H R I S 07-07-2016 02:18 PM

Paperstreet is solid company, they are among the top programs in this biz for a reason.

If the sales were valid they would pay, they wouldnt risk their A++++ reputation over $100.00

BigFurry 07-07-2016 02:28 PM

I have only the best experience with PaperStreetCash and Zak.

It's normal that programs investigate if the sales and the traffic look strange.

TheDynasty 07-07-2016 02:32 PM

Paperstreet Rocks! wish i had more time to promote them

brassmonkey 07-07-2016 02:35 PM

you need to be banned op and this thread erased </thread> :2 cents::2 cents:

Miguel T 07-07-2016 02:59 PM

Lol, Paperstreet scam??? For a 100$ ??
Lol

Mediamix 07-07-2016 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobstriker (Post 21014590)
. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

That's the problem.. You're buying the wrong traffic. :2 cents:

plaster 07-07-2016 03:18 PM

Just curious, what's the method to fake the url referrer as google? Couldn't he be buying clicks with his affiliate id?

I'm curious because I've never caught fraud from referral that was from google.

bloggerz 07-07-2016 03:48 PM

top notch guys at Paper Street Cash. Maybe you should question your traffic provider (who you bought the traffic from) as maybe they are sending you bullshit traffic :2 cents:

AaronM 07-07-2016 04:17 PM

The only possible scammer I'm seeing here is the OP.

Props to how you've handled everything so far Zak. :thumbsup

mobstriker 07-08-2016 12:00 AM

It's not very honest for company to make profit using PPS model in such way. I gave him sales (PAY PER SALE). I have 5 sales in my stat.

Some customers will have rebills, some of them - no.
Some customers use proxy services , some - no.

Does it means that sale is bad?
Does they send wrong credit card?
Does they send wrong names?

If I have all risk using PPS, for what PPS needed? There is RevShare model is better.
Am I wrong?


Zak made in my stat 3 refunds in one day? Jul 7th, 2016? Why not 5 refunds, if all my sales is full shit?

This means that I have 2 valid sales at least?

I thinks PPS model is not good choice for Paperstreetcash. I made my money honestly.
That's my opinion.

If someone wants to work in "Zak's PPS style" - that's his choice.

lovebitch 07-08-2016 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak (Post 21014620)
I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

Sent you an email Please check

Markul 07-08-2016 12:13 AM

I've never had an issue with PSC. Also never had a complaint from any of the 169 webmasters I referred to them.

These guys are good guys :thumbsup

NoWhErE 07-08-2016 05:06 AM

mobstriker, do you have an account with us or any other program on this board? I'm sure any one of us would be happy to vouch for you if you have any history with them.

Twoface31 07-08-2016 07:26 AM

ummmm is this real

Porko 07-08-2016 08:19 AM

Paperstreetcash = Great guys

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

HowlingWulf 07-08-2016 08:20 AM

I think PSC explained their reasons well. I'm a little surprised they went into that much detail.

Rochard 07-08-2016 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Miguel (Post 21014905)
Lol, Paperstreet scam??? For a 100$ ??
Lol

LOL, this is what I was thinking. You really think a program is going to risk their reputation over $100?

fris 07-08-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porko (Post 21016867)
Paperstreetcash = Great guys

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

yes they are, odds are the signups were used by stolen cc's for trials.

Pornopat 07-08-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobstriker (Post 21016069)
Some customers will have rebills, some of them - no.
Some customers use proxy services , some - no.

Correct but what about this :

2. Suspicious members area activity/inactivity;

Inactivity meaning that some people signed up and then never checked out the membersarea. I fully understand that sales get flagged then and so should you.
It is odd that a person pays money to check out the content and then does not check out the content.
:2 cents:

Pyewacket 07-08-2016 10:34 AM

I am new to Paper Street Cash and joined after I read tons of other reviews about them. Their content is great, their materials well above a lot of the other sites. In short, I am happy with them.

So, if I understand this right, the OP bought traffic only until he hit his minimum payout and then turned off the tap. Bought traffic isn't always the best qualified, and many programs warn their advertisers to stay away from it. How did these people end up at a PSC site? Did the OP do anything but buy traffic? Did he even set up a site or blog to show samples of the sites?

Legit programs expect you will have a live site or blog that you will use to promote them, not that you are going to hand your linking information to some traffic broker. The sponsor should be able to check your site out to see how you are promoting them at any time. To do anything other than that is to cheat the sponsor. Word to the wise - play by the rules and don't buy traffic.

Feng-PD 07-08-2016 10:38 AM

PSC are one of the best people in the biz!

kimberlyann 07-08-2016 11:49 AM

PSC would not risk their rep for such a small amount. They are a well know company. I have paid affiliates more only to find later that the joins were actually fraud. I commend Zak for being efficient and checking the stats

The Porn Nerd 07-08-2016 12:01 PM

PSC is a fine company, I promote them in my Members Areas. OP is off base here and this thread should be deleted.

fuzebox 07-08-2016 12:52 PM

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TrafficRush 07-08-2016 12:52 PM

I'm just here for the free popcorn.. wait no free popcorn???

I'm outta here! LOL

Denny 07-08-2016 12:55 PM

Sorry man, but I don't think PSC is going to ruin their reputation for $120 :thumbsup

Relentless 07-08-2016 01:26 PM

Have worked with paperstreet for years and years... Always been terrific to work with.

Paper_Sal 07-08-2016 11:19 PM

Friends and affiliates of PSC. Thank you for the kind words.

Salima

#10yrsLaterMyFirstPost

Struggle4Bucks 07-08-2016 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficRush (Post 21017470)
I'm just here for the free popcorn.. wait no free popcorn???

I'm outta here! LOL

I'll give you free popcorn if you don't use a popcorn-bucket-ad-blocker:pimp

dillfly2000 07-09-2016 12:40 AM

Had the same issue a long while back with FNcash.
I learned the hard way that buying traffic without doing my research can result in no pay and/a good banning. Yeah it sucks when it happens to you without notice. I mean after all you did nothing wrong, and if it's not your fault, it's usually the scummy shitty shady traffic providers, aaaand Therein lays the problem. you deal with shit people, you're most likely gonna end up in the same toilette with them just waiting to be flushed.

Cut your losses and move on.

Harambe 07-09-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobstriker (Post 21014590)
Hello!

I'm almost 3 years in business. Today I meet first scam in my adult career))

Here is the history)

One day I saw here Paperstreetcash.
I didn't work with these guys before.
I decided to try them. I was sending traffic to them until I reached minimum payout.
It was $120. The hold was one month and I returned to my old aff. program.
This week I expected first payout.

But instead I saw first email from Zak))




Of course, I sent my answer. I planned to register my own staff site. Maybe later i'll do it.
In your settings this is company url, but not url from which affiliate should send traffic.


This is my stat with them.

http://i.imgur.com/DKn3nLw.png


And today I received the final email))



1. I don't know what ips you mean. I sent you 20K real human users. I think Zak you invented this reason during morning beer))
2. What does this mean Suspicious members. If you can't interested your customers - is it my problem?
3. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

If you think, that you have right insult me by your dirty suspicions - you're wrong. You are not first with whome I make deal in this business.

You lie because you don't want to pay. I worked honestly and you not, man. Oh, sorry - you are not a man - you are scammer.


mobstriker , mobstriker , mobstriker, mobstriker, mobstriker, mobstriker scammer scammer scammer scammer scammer :thumbsup

wehateporn 07-09-2016 02:53 PM

Someone sold you some fake traffic, then tried to make it look like it was worth buying more by doing fake $1 signups?

NatalieK 07-09-2016 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 21017053)
yes they are, odds are the signups were used by stolen cc's for trials.

No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak, why are you refunding on these sales when they could be legit?

Would it not be best for business interest to hold the money for longer, not refund, see what happens & then take matters in due course. This way, the op, maybe paid for his possibly legitimate hard work & paperstreet receive sales monthly :2 cents:

BTW, any GFYers having a go at op when he's already explained, it's his first company to work for, shame on you, if he's legit :Oh crap

gnawledge 07-09-2016 07:59 PM

This has to be some Indian scammer or Croatian farmer just new to the Internet. Paper street cash is a solid well playing company. It sounds like you were on black hat forum a little too much and decided to try out some kiddie ways of fraud and were caught red handed.

plaster 07-09-2016 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobstriker (Post 21014590)

More join hits then uniques... things that make you go hmmmm... :1orglaugh

CPA-Rush 07-09-2016 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21020038)
No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak,

yes


Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21020038)
it's his first company to work for,

no

Harambe 07-09-2016 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21020038)
No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak, why are you refunding on these sales when they could be legit?

Would it not be best for business interest to hold the money for longer, not refund, see what happens & then take matters in due course. This way, the op, maybe paid for his possibly legitimate hard work & paperstreet receive sales monthly :2 cents:

BTW, any GFYers having a go at op when he's already explained, it's his first company to work for, shame on you, if he's legit :Oh crap

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Hannes 07-10-2016 12:05 AM

wether it is a scam, it wasn't a crazy amount of money at least. now you have learned to not trust a specific business.

Smart Fred 07-10-2016 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 21015154)
The only possible scammer I'm seeing here is the OP.

Props to how you've handled everything so far Zak. :thumbsup

I fully agree with with you Aaron.
When a guy is unable to provide us from which URL he has sent the sales, it's because he runs something unclear.
I had no problem with Paper Street Cash when I was a TGP submitter. Nowadays, my problem is to send traffic to them :(

Grisey 07-10-2016 08:44 AM

I think i was one of the first to promote PSC, always been stand up since

NatalieK 07-10-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak (Post 21014620)
Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious

but they could still be legit sales?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 21020197)
yes
no

You mean, true & correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 21020494)
When a guy is unable to provide us from which URL he has sent the sales, it's because he runs something unclear.(

He could have just bought traffic, could he not?

NatalieK 07-10-2016 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harambe (Post 21020245)
g f y garry!! :321GFY:321GFY wife has leather face!!!! smile like retarded

says the retard :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Leave my fella out of the conversation when you're speaking with me or, I'll have to bring your partner into this too. It's obvious you're feeling sad about your wife & her real leather face, the ugly old hag. Why are you trying to pick on pretty girls like me... now you :321GFY

You fat fuck :2 cents:


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