Trump Casinos? Tax Debt Was $30 Million. Then Christie Took Office.
 

Seems Trump's casino owed $30 million in taxes, and Gov. Christie knocked it down to $5 million. And even then, it seems like Trump's casino spent the past decade trying to fight paying any taxes.

Seems all of Trump's businesses operate this way. They fight paying taxes as much as they can, then fail to pay. The US federal government has taken him to court dozens of times to get Trump to pay taxes due.

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Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us...=top-news&_r=0

Chris Christie is a real piece of shit alright.

Check this out:

Exxon Mobil polluted the fuck out of NJ. They got caught and a legal battle that took 9 years was finally won by the state, and Exxon had to pay $8.9 Billion dollars.

Then in rolls greasy Chris Christie, and now they have to pay only $225 Million.

Chris Christie'''s $225M Settlement With Exxon Approved by New Jersey Judge - NBC News

Fuck Christie. I hope the humiliation he suffered as Trump's little asshole-licker lasts him for the rest of his life.

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Being a scumbag is a common republican trait. This is a surprise?

damn, what a shitstain... how dare he fight to keep more of his hard earned $$ from greedy government hands? :helpme

He'll get a judgment against him for Trump U and will go bankrupt again to avoid paying.

Yearly taxes are a scam. Everything we eat, drive, breathe, drink, etc. is taxed. There are so many tax breaks for our yearly taxes that you can legally pay little taxes and I'm all for that! I pay enough in fees/taxes daily/monthly , fuck the yearly tax scam!

donald trump is the white collar al capone...I would not be surprised to see him take money out of peoples wallets when they are not watching :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dude likes to fuck people over more than anything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Chris Christie is a giant piece of dogshit. He makes me almost as sick as that scumbag liar Trump.. Republicans make me violently ill

Chris Christie lost me along the way... I am a former Jersey boy (born there and lived there until I was 17).

There was an animal-welfare bill, which was about how to treat pigs before they are slaughtered. Everyone in NJ wanted this to go into effect, and Christie shot it down. At the time Christie was a presidential candidate and needed to make a good impression in New Hampshire, Iowa, and South Carolina, and other states - farming states where this is an issue. So he went against what his citizens wanted, and instead shot the bill down to impress people in other states.

WTF kind of shit what that?

Chris Christie vetoes pig crate ban - CNNPolitics.com

NJ is one of the biggest shit holes in this country so how would you not expect them to not elect shit hole politicians. You aren't even aloud to pump your own gas in that state for fucks sake.

Yeah! Who needs paved roads, clear water or good schools anyway? Damn dirty SOB's!

obviously if you would ever get audited, you wouldn't hire a lawyer/accountant to make sure you pay what you are supposed to and not a penny more, eh? you would pay what the government thinks you owe them, and throw in extra 10% with a note "keep up the good work guys!", right? After all, roads need to be paved and schools need to be good, so only a real asshole would question government tax auditor... :thumbsup

Where is Frank Van De Shoes and his expert opinion on NJ governor?

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Oh, I disagree with that. People tend to think NJ is Newark. It isn't. I grew up in Western NJ, near PA. It was all hills and farmland. Newark, the Turnpike, all of that was foreign to us. I also don't have that NJ accent.

But the New Jersey I grew up in was beautiful.

lol @ the usual retards analyzing everybody who is not even on Trumps payroll to death.

Yet they completely ignore any of the atrocities by a PRESIDENTIAL candidate causing people to DIE.

Taxes are more important than lives, high five!

I heard Trump rolled Christie in flour and fucked the wet spot(s).


Dunno if it's true tho.

Have fun guys....

Like what?

Which emails caused any deaths? can you copy/paste them plz.

Exactly. Roads, Police, Fire Department, and everything else you take for granted should be turned over to Private Enterprise so they can charge you what their shareholders are happy with.

If you paid "enough" taxes, the US wouldn't be so deep in debt.

The tax loopholes people like Trump use are created by people like Christie. They're not available to you and me. Then when the bill arrives Trump decides he shouldn't pay all of it. Rather you should or schools should, roads, etc, should be starved of funding or the country should borrow more money.

To those who think they pay too much tax.

Study what taxes pay for, then decide who should lose their jobs and go onto benefits. Then factor in the cost of the Private Sector taking over that job.

You might want to compare private Roads, Healthcare, Schools, Security Forces, Fire Departments, etc to Public Sector ones. Even a Private Sector Company deciding how much tax you should pay.

Fuck taxes
Meanwhile if two of your best people and close friends got killed dead in a crash while handling business operations you might lose the fire for that business as well
Not to mention look it at what happened to everyone else in AC back then

Of course was trump extremely over leveraged like a maniac.. . Yes :)
But still I don't know I could say anyone human would end up any better in any business their friends got killed fucking with no matter what money amounts

Another thing too
Trump used bankruptcy at strategic times if you look into what all happened
Take full advantage of the law

When it comes to not paying certain people that was fucked up ... wasn't too good using cheap wall and floor coverings in high end apartments either
But I don't think he's nearly as stupid or wrong as some fools say
One guy was complaining about the skating rink saying he agreed to do work Pro Bono because he didn't know that meant free
Seriously.
Waaaaah I didn't get paid
Well you agreed to something without asking what it meant . . Business is business
One time I accidentally fucked around and sold a sixty pound server machine for $.42 on ebay
My mistake
Motherfucker got a free computer I paid $50 to sell to him
Oh well and too bad
But I didn't go around saying how awful the buyer was

Sounds to me as if they must've felt they wouldn't get the thirty... local governments are worse than the fkn feds - if they thought they could get thirty they'd get it - unless of course someone made a "deal" - if you know what I mean :D

Fuck the IRS.. One time they changed some "regulations" and applied them to Trump RETROACTIVELY. That's like being pushed off of a bicycle while having sex in a bathtub. It makes no fucking sense.

A. They write a huge mountain of impossible to decipher regulations / codes / whatever else which make even a credit card contract look simple in comparison.
There's no WAY to be sure you're in compliance and they've admitted that even THEY don't understand it all

B. They just make something up to fuck you over if they don't like what you paid. A good example of this is AMT

C. They like to count things as income which aren't income.

D. They don't care about the actual statutes at all

E. They run around acting as an enforcement agency with total impunity which is extremely illegal

F. FUCK THE IRS

G. The IRS can jail you even when there is no law or rule you've broken. Schiff is a good example of that. They never DID come up with a law he actually broke and he was sentenced to years in prison because fuck everyone

H. Income is everything and everything is income even though it's not according to them

I. I hate the IRS

private anything is usually superior to public...

where do "rich" send their kids? private or public schools? why is that? cause private schools are worse? :1orglaugh :error
same with roads, toll roads are way better maintained than public ones...
mail/package delivery: fedex is 10x more reliable than USPS...
public gyms are usually shitholes, private ones are not...
etc

I can't think of any situation where "public" is better than "private"... can you?

that's a twisted way of looking at it... imagine YOU are in debt... why would that be?
cause you spent too much, that's how... no one ever says: "I'm in debt cause I don't earn enough"... obviously, you are in debt, cause you spend too much....

I disagree. I take every possible loophole I can. Everyone should. And there is nothing wrong with it.

The problem is Trump most likely goes overboard.

So much fucking stupid in this thread. You should all shoot yourselves in the face...or go live in a third world shithole with no taxes where one of the local natives will gladly shoot you in the face.

How do you figure that? I see zero evidence to conclude that he goes any more overboard than the scheme you used to brag about of taking your wife to lunch and writing it off as a business expense...

but of course when you do it, you are clever at stretching the tax law, when someone else does it, they are going "overboard", eh?

I am not stretching anything. There is a difference between a legitimate business expense and stretching the tax law. There is a difference between "taking my wife out to lunch" and "a strategy meeting with my business partner". Any time I have a meal with someone in the industry, someone I do business with, or even someone I want to do business with... It's a write off.

The problem with Trump is he makes millions of dollars a year, and then gets a tax break aimed at families making a lot less: Donald Trump Keeps Collecting a Tax Break Aimed at New Yorkers Who Make Under $500,000

But that is not even the issue... Trump cannot release his tax forms because they will show the exact status of all of his businesses. He is trying to project an image of "winning" while on paper with the IRS he is trying to make his business look like it's not making any money at all. We know he is making money somewhere along the line, but when we see the truth about how it's done it will make him look horrible. It's like sausages - Everyone likes them, but no one wants to see how they are made.

Trump can release his tax forms at any time. But he won't. Because if he does it will news fodder until election day.

would you release your tax returns? I wouldn't, and I don't blame him for doing the same... there is no possible good that could come out of it... every idiot out there will analyze every single line 20 times in detail...

then there will be 100 smear stories like "Trump took deduction aimed at xxxx".... who gives a shit what the deduction is "aimed at", it's a legal deduction so why not take it?

Every other candidate did in past elections. :1orglaugh
Boy, this stupid-o-meter is running high in here. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Most did indeed release it, but I'm not 100% sure it's "all" like you claimed... however, most candidates are politicians, so there is nothing potentially interesting in their tax returns... their salary, home mortgage deduction and few other minor things... so there is no reason to not release them...

vs

a businessman whose tax return likely spans 100s of pages filled with various deductions, loop holes, etc that will be analyzed by everyone in detail...

There is nothing on my tax forms that is remotely interesting to anyone. It's all pretty standard.

But with Trump it would be a vastly different story. His tax returns are complicated; Everything is set up to minimize the tax liability. On one hand there is nothing wrong with this - most of us do this to a degree. But Trump takes it to the extreme. And in the event he releases his tax forms and every one seems he really isn't paying taxes, it will look horrible. And Trump knows he can load his taxes up with a bunch of bullshit that will take a team of people at the IRS years to figure out.

speaking of releasing tax returns...

2012
19 Million

2013
27 Million

2014
28 Million

(if these links expire, you can view it here: Tax History Project -- Presidential Tax Returns)

who would have thought that politics would be so profitable...

a bit ironic that she pretends to complain about "executive compensation" but she earns more than 99% executives... or how she pretends to complain about "1%", pretends she understands problems of the middle class, etc, while she is well in the top .1%... :1orglaugh




in comparison, check out this loser:

2014 Bernie Sanders

spent his entire lifetime in politics and in his 60s manages to only pull in 160k? no wonder he turned into a commie... :1orglaugh

You heard of mitt Romney, right. The businessmen Romney.

And your point is?

There is no doubt that the Clintons have made money. A former President always makes bank after he (she?) leaves office. This is a given. But in the case of the Clintons, there is TWO of them.... You have a former President and then a former Senator and Secretary Of State. There is no doubt they will make money.

There seems to be a lot of interest in how much money the Clintons make. Why is that? Did we do this with Reagan? Kennedy?

no point really... just seems a bit excessive... especially for someone who claims to understand middle class values/problems/etc... don't most presidents usually have more modest income?

even GW Bush, someone from a pretty wealthy family, didn't break $1M:
Bush 2000

and Clintons are doing 20x that... but if you don't see anything unusual or wrong with that, then I guess all is good... :thumbsup

This is the problem with some people.

A person can be angry at someone's actions and still no approve of other people's actions. If I criticize Trump, that does not mean I am endorsing Clinton of forgiving her for the things she has done. It also doesn't mean I automatically agree with everything Obama has done. It is simply a criticism of Trump (or Christie).

At least the CLintons have nothing to hide...at least in their taxes.

George W Bush has difficulty reading children's books out loud. Who is going to pay him for commencement speech or any other public appearance? Besides, everyone hates the guy.
So whats wrong with Clintons doing 20 million? Perhaps there is something wrong with W and that's why he is making 5% of what he could have been making.

why would they need to hide? devoted fans will vote for them no matter what, cause there is obviously nothing unusual or wrong with racking up 100+ million from "speaking fees" and other questionable income sources... :helpme

When Bush left the White House his approval ratings were so low even his own party wanted nothing to do with him. When Bill Clinton left the White House his approval rating was nearly 70% so he was in serious demand.

Bush's <1M/year income was BEFORE he became president.... Obama earned a relatively modest income of something like $200k/year before becoming president too...

while Clintons earn $20M/year before becoming president (with significant portion of that attributable to Hillary herself)

just pointing out that Clinton's income before becoming president is unusually high among recent presidents... so it's a bit naive to think that she has any real understanding of problems facing the middle class...

Republicans preaching against people making money, never thought I'd see the day.

Cheney made hundreds of millions off the Iraq war with his Halliburton & Bush is paid annually by them to this day.

Nothing to see here

I never said she has any connection with regular working people. I was simply pointing out that Bill Clinton was insanely popular when he left office which helped him get paid handsomely to make speeches. We will see the same thing from Obama. Obama isn't as popular as Clinton was, but in this day and age his favorably is good. Many places will pay him large sums to come talk to him.

Also, a lot of these speeches after the fact are, in effect, repayment for the president or his administration doing something that benefited those who are now paying him.

And in Bill's case, his fees started spiking 2-3x his previous fees the day Hillary became Sec of State.

I think you are way off here. Compare what Bush made in 2000 to what Clinton made his first year in office, and then you have a fair comparison. Then compare what Bush makes now compared to what the Clintons make now. Then factor in that Bush is Bush, one income, while the Clintons are Bill and Hillary - a former President AND a former Secretary of State.

What they made before they ran isn't too important. What tax rate they paid is.

Hillary - and Bill - have zero connection to the "average American". Hillary said a few months ago that she hasn't driven a car in over twenty years.

But Trump is just the same. I just spent the past hour doing yard work. Can you imagine Trump mowing his lawn?

Very true. Regardless of what shady things she may have pulled while in office, Bill himself cashed in big as soon as she took that job and my understanding is that she has cashing on speaking fees since stepping down from that position.

We're pretty much the highest most egregiously taxed herd of masses anywhere on the planet when living here in the states at this point. Meanwhile other countries with similar tax burdens on everyone at least fuck around and provide health care and some shit

Am I in favor of the government providing services like those and all kinds of everything? Fuck the hell no. My point is, if they're going to rape the same money from our bleeding assess that those other countries steal from their victims I mean citizens, where the fuck is our health care and all that other fancy shit then?

I say we stop stealing so much money from everyone who is a productive anything and stop hemorrhaging money out to lowlife garbages and meanwhile we stop letting other countries fucking ass rape us and then we get our debt system the fuck under control and in the interim we could stop taking all of these muslim refugees and here's a shocker HOW ABOUT MUSLIM COUNTRIES TAKING THEM IN- wouldn't that be weird


We're mainly just paying debt with these taxes as far as I am aware, anyway. Meanwhile as we sink into debt we're stuck, what, $20,000,000,000,000
That's not twenty big ones that's twenty huge ones .. four of that we bled off in Iraq and we couldn't even have the sense to take a position in Iraqi oil when we were right there But
OH DON'T WORRY - PEAK OIL IS A NON ISSUE IN 2016 ... right .. because our government is ever going to be in favor of NOT making billions for themselves by steering us into an oil covered death while they all laugh at their bank balances

And now here everyone is saying that we need to privatize everything
Yeah that's what we need after finding ourselves TWENTY TRILLION IN DEBT while so many roads and bridges and airports and schools and who knows what FALL THE FUCK TO SHAMBLES

So now that the money is spent like a giant 900 foot tall drunken sailor with a platinum and gold covered cocaine and jet plane habit befell our nation it's about time for them to turn it over and say HERE - YOU DO IT

Hey that's great .. it's as of we paid a million dollars to have a modest home built for us by someone we trusted who knew what they were doing so a few years into the project they've not only spent our million dollars but they also spent another $99,994,000 signing our name to it all and they turn to us as say, hey I think I'll let you handle building this house! You're welcome !


What's really going to save US is that we have another 100,000,000,000,000 in unfunded liabilities
But don't worry we can keep stealing from social security every year just as we have for decades because that will prop up our budget to the point where we're only going into a horrendous amount of new debt on a yearly basis is all

Never fear though because our fractional paper dollar is worth less and less by the day
Some more good news is that growth is usually around .0000000000% these days so that's awesome
The REAL unemployment rate is only about 99% as well so that helps

Just watch football and play video games and chase women like a square like everyone does and maybe vote democrats in because they can tell you how much lift a unicorn horn generates at any given altitude and they can tell you very loudly and certainly

Don't worry

1. Democrats care about black people or Mexicans
2. Democrats care about women
3. Democrats are compassionate and caring
4. Democrats don't get anyone killed
5. Unicorns can fly when listening to R Kelly

Meanwhile we have republicans to give us another healthy dose of idiocy and horriffing things I won't even get started on

I think no one should complain about the current standard of living in the states if you're not dicking around fucking off at some $10 job OR too lazy to work you can live like a king would have not THAT long ago in history

What people BETTER be complaining and taking about and understanding is that this hindenberg simply cannot titanic FOREVER
THE SUN DON'T SHINE FOREVER
So everyone better get wise before it's too late
Which won't happen so fuck everything