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NatalieK 09-07-2016 12:12 PM

Pornhub wants to own the rights to my content and take my rights away
 
so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?

https://i.gyazo.com/947d7921d1fdbb76...ef36ccef20.png

anyone else having this problem?

Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?

King Mark 09-07-2016 12:18 PM

Lol.....

Spunky 09-07-2016 12:19 PM

Don't let the man hold you down!

pornlaw 09-07-2016 12:20 PM

Not sure if that would work as an assignment of copyright under the various electronic signature laws around the world... but I wouldnt want to be arguing that is doesnt...

https://www.docusign.com/esign-act-and-ueta

j3rkules 09-07-2016 12:22 PM

Is it for real? Innovative way to "protect your content".

Colmike9 09-07-2016 12:31 PM

But.. Those are amateur videos, like cell phone videos, that wouldn't legally be allowed normally because of 2257 and other things that individuals aren't going to be doing.

I don't agree with it, though...



Promote dating instead. :2 cents::upsidedow

plaster 09-07-2016 12:31 PM

That's nice of them... they give you an account in exchange for all of you past, current and future content... sweet!! :thumbsup

sicone 09-07-2016 12:37 PM

Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.

yuu.design 09-07-2016 12:38 PM

damn, that sucks!

NatalieK 09-07-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 21148606)
Choose a different type of producer account instead of Amateur Payment Program. Maybe try content partner.

yeah, been meaning to change it to the partnership program. I take it this doesn't ask for this copyright?

Bank18 09-07-2016 12:55 PM

but it's illegal.. :mad:

CaptainHowdy 09-07-2016 01:17 PM

Motherfuckers.

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2016 01:20 PM

It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.

brassmonkey 09-07-2016 01:29 PM

it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal :2 cents::2 cents:

NatalieK 09-07-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21148693)
It looks like a limited assignment of copyright. (Partial assignment?)
It applies to free sites only, sites of Pornhub's kind -- other tubes ...

''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' estoppel by agreement of some consideration. The action of uploading in agreement with the new terms would create an estoppel of barring the use the uploaded content ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

You are not transferring any ownership of the content only agreeing to Pornhub's exclusive use ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms''.

What exactly ''on any free user-generated sites or platforms'' means is rather vague -- it may not be very binding. For example, if you had your own forum as part of your business -- you may not not be able to use that content only verbatim in its entirety -- big loophole that you might be able drive a truck through.

That is the way I see the intention -- without going into Pornhub's rational in the matter.

but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

Not understanding what they're saying :2 cents:

AMDWarrior 09-07-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21148534)
so PornHub, why would I want you to own my content & give me no permissions to reproduce my content?

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/947d7921d1fdbb7675de3aef36ccef20.png[/im

anyone else having this problem?

Is this legal? Why would I give my content away & have no rights for my own content?


No one wants your shitty content..

AdultKing 09-07-2016 04:29 PM

Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?

beerptrol 09-07-2016 04:43 PM

If you want to work with thieving cunts, don't be surprised when they try to ass fuck you in a bad way!

charlie g 09-07-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 21149134)
If you want to work with thieving cunts, don't be surprised when they try to ass fuck you in a bad way!

:thumbsup

SBJ 09-07-2016 06:31 PM

adapt or die? does it fit here? :1orglaugh

Sure I think those thieves should have the legal right to own the content posted on their mostly illegal site :1orglaugh

Oh god I almost believed it myself.. I need more than 2 hours of fucking sleep :Oh crap

Speigelau 09-07-2016 10:05 PM

I think they will be able to achieve more with the content than you will, so just let them have it.

Mr.Fiction 09-08-2016 04:55 AM

Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

Paul&John 09-08-2016 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Klen 09-08-2016 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

That is actually happening already, even in mainstream.

Barry-xlovecam 09-08-2016 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21149068)
but as many users, I post my clips and partial movies if not full on this tube and others like xhamster, and already done. I'm certainly not going to remove any from other tubes.

Not understanding what they're saying :2 cents:



Pornhub's only realistic recourse is to cancel your account, not pay you and they might have established a right to the content and its use if this agreement (stipulation) is breached.


It's a real POS piece work but there may be a real ulterior motive here.

HowlingWulf 09-08-2016 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

This will certainly be the problem. Don't see how they can 'win' anything when claiming they own something uploaded by someone who didn't own it in the first place.

2MuchMark 09-08-2016 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21148738)
it's a good deal if they give you ad space of the videos and the dcma deal :2 cents::2 cents:

LOL! Are you serious? That's a terrible deal.

I can understand if maybe, Gary & Nathalie were going to provide them content in exchange for traffic to their site TEMPORARILY, but this wording is PERMANENT. What if no traffic is provided or if the deal just doesn't work out? Gary & Nathalie should then be able to end this deal, re-gain their rights to their content, and look for someone new to work with, no?

Paul Markham 09-08-2016 07:35 AM

A serial thief is going to send DCMAs to sites where the owner of the content has uploaded it. Could it be more wrong?

Also, how do they know the person submitting the content is the owner?

NatalieK 09-08-2016 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21149101)
Nobody is forcing people to participate in this program.

I don't see a problem with this. They're offering a free DMCA service and protecting your content.

You do realise that if you make two versions of one video and one is on Pornhub and the other is on XHamster then there won't be an issue ?

after speaking with Brett from PornHub, seems the above is the case. PH are simply offering DMCA especially to models uploading specifically to PH, scanning the top 50 sites and issuing the DMCA if need :2 cents:

ruff 09-08-2016 08:48 AM

Fuck em and feed em beans.

Pornhub 09-08-2016 09:39 AM

Hi Everyone

To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service

romeo22 09-08-2016 11:26 AM

oh that sucks big balls

plaster 09-08-2016 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornhub (Post 21150610)
Hi Everyone

To clarify about the program this is an optional service we are providing as part of our amateur payment program. this is geared to a portion of our users in the program who upload exclusively on Pornhub already and have requested help protecting their content from appearing on other free sites where they aren't getting paid. If you are someone that is already uploading your content to other free platforms this program is obviously not right for you. It is completely optional if you want to take advantage of this new service if you decline nothing changes.

Happy to answer any questions about the program and our new content protection service

I'm fairly certain dmca agents do not require ownership of content to act on owners behalf. The warning light box popup is misleading to put it mildly.

Jigster715 09-08-2016 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh - Chris Mallick will be tapped to write the script and secure funding for the movie. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Naughty-Pages 09-08-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

I know right??

I already have enough issues with DMCA complaints to Google about legally obtained affiliate promo content.

And how is that going to work for THEIR affiliate content? They offer dumps for people to use on their tubes, is that going to be a similar headache?

Mediamix 09-08-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 21149965)
Coming soon: User steals your content, licenses it to big tube sites. You get lots of DMCAs on your own content, which the big tubes think they own. :1orglaugh

I already have that problem on Youtube. :( It's solved for now, but that was a real pain in my ass.


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