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SuckOnThis 09-29-2016 07:15 AM

First post debate polls shows a bump for Clinton
 
Wait, I thought Trump won the debate? :1orglaugh


PPP Polling Sept 27-28

National +4 Clinton

Colorado Clinton +6
Florida Clinton +2
Pennsylvania Clinton +6
North Carolina Clinton +2
Virginia Clinton +6

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ates_92916.pdf

onwebcam 09-29-2016 07:37 AM

PPP is a liberal paid private polling company. Meaning they are paid by liberals to do a poll. So who paid for this poll and what was their desired result? Oh btw this wasn't the first poll since.

A few pollsters are shameless about their herding. One of them is Public Policy Polling (PPP), a polling firm that conducts automated polls for both public consumption and for liberal and Democratic clients.

Take a look at this exchange, for example, between The New York Times’ Nate Cohn13 and PPP’s Tom Jensen. Cohn discovered that in 2012, the racial composition of PPP’s polls was correlated in an unusual way with President Obama’s performance among white voters in their surveys. If Obama was performing especially poorly among whites in one PPP poll, it tended to have a higher share of nonwhite voters, which boosted Obama’s result. And if Obama was doing relatively well among whites, PPP projected less nonwhite turnout, keeping his lead in check. As a result, PPP’s polls tended to show an unusually steady race between Obama and Mitt Romney.

I’m picking on PPP for a reason: They’re the biggest herders in the business. Here’s the chart I showed you before, but with only PPP’s polls highlighted. On average, in states with at least three other recent polls, their polls deviated from the polling average by only 1.6 percentage points. The evidence for herding is extremely clear visually and statistically.14

Here’s Proof Some Pollsters Are Putting A Thumb On The Scale | FiveThirtyEight

I hate quoting Nate Silvers site since he admitted to changing his algorithm to help Hillary as well. But who knows a cheat better than another cheat?

SuckOnThis 09-29-2016 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21191437)
PPP is a liberal paid private polling company. Meaning they are paid by liberals to do a poll. So who paid for this poll and what was their desired result? Oh btw this wasn't the first poll since.

A few pollsters are shameless about their herding. One of them is Public Policy Polling (PPP), a polling firm that conducts automated polls for both public consumption and for liberal and Democratic clients.

Take a look at this exchange, for example, between The New York Times? Nate Cohn13 and PPP?s Tom Jensen. Cohn discovered that in 2012, the racial composition of PPP?s polls was correlated in an unusual way with President Obama?s performance among white voters in their surveys. If Obama was performing especially poorly among whites in one PPP poll, it tended to have a higher share of nonwhite voters, which boosted Obama?s result. And if Obama was doing relatively well among whites, PPP projected less nonwhite turnout, keeping his lead in check. As a result, PPP?s polls tended to show an unusually steady race between Obama and Mitt Romney.

I?m picking on PPP for a reason: They?re the biggest herders in the business. Here?s the chart I showed you before, but with only PPP?s polls highlighted. On average, in states with at least three other recent polls, their polls deviated from the polling average by only 1.6 percentage points. The evidence for herding is extremely clear visually and statistically.14

Here?s Proof Some Pollsters Are Putting A Thumb On The Scale | FiveThirtyEight


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onwebcam 09-29-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 21191449)
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It is funny that you quoted one of the biggest polling cheats known. What they do is what I've been referring to all along. I could setup a private polling company today and tomorrow have Putin winning the US election according to my poll.

C H R I S 09-29-2016 08:07 AM

If its good news for Hillary its "The liberal Media"

If its good news for Trump its the "Alt Right wing press"

In this day and age nobody trusts any news outlet in the US....

Carry on...

Rochard 09-29-2016 09:10 AM

It was Obvious Clinton won. All serious polls are showing a slight bump for her too.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Up three points.


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