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Coup 10-12-2016 02:09 PM

The Russians are preparing for world war because Hillary is going to be the next president.
 
They are preparing for world war. Death is imminent. Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

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In Europe, when it gets serious, you have to lie... at least if you are an unelected bureaucrat like Jean-Claude Juncker. In Russia, however, when it gets serious, attention immediately turns to the children.

Which is why we read a report in Russian website Znak published Tuesday, according to which Russian state officials and government workers were told to bring back their children studying abroad immediately, even if means cutting their education short and not waiting until the end of the school year, and re-enroll them in Russian schools, with some concern. The article adds that if the parents of these same officials also live abroad "for some reason", and have not lost their Russian citizenship, should also be returned to the motherland. Znak cited five administration officials as the source of the report.

The "recommendation" applies to all: from the administration staff, to regional administratiors, to lawmakers of all levels. Employees of public corporations are also subject to the ordinance. One of the sources said that anyone who fails to act, will find such non-compliance to be a "complicating factor in the furtherance of their public sector career." He added that he was aware of several such cases in recent months.

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

While we doubt the impacted children will be happy by this development, some of the more patriotic locals, if unimpacted, are delighted. Such as Vitaly Ivanov, a political scientist who believes that the measure to return children of officials from studying abroad, is "long overdue." According Ivanoc, the education of children of the Russian elite abroad is subject to constant ridicule and derision against the ruling regime. "People note the hypocrisy of having a centralized state and cultivating patriotism and anti-Western sentiment, while children of government workers study abroad. You can not serve two gods, one must choose."

On the other hand, political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky quoted by Znak, believes that such decisions should be approached with more pragmatism. Such a recommendation is more likely to lead to an outflow of officials from the state, rather than allow the return of the children studying at elite foreign universities. He also warned of attempts to recreate an echo chamber such as that experienced after the failed July coup attempt on Turkey's President Erdogan.

But what he said next was more disturbing: "On the one hand, this is all part of a package of measures to prepare the elites for some 'big war' even if it is rather conditional, on the other hand - this is another blow to the unity of President Putin with his own elite" Belkovsky said. He adds that the Western sanctions launcedh in March 2014, had sought to drive a wedge between Putin and elites. In response, the Kremlin began to act precisely according to the logic of these sanctions. "But while a ban for having assets in the West is one thing, and understanable, when it comes to a ban for offshore health and education services, the blowback will be far greater, as it represents a far more important element of the establishment's life strategy."

Ultimately the motivation behind Putin's decision is unclear: whether it is to show Russia's high-ranking oligarchs who is boss, to boost a sense of patriotism among the nation by sending a symbolic message that the west is no longer a welcome destination for Russia's rich kids, or just a preemptive move of repatriating of any individuals affiliated with Russian politics for other unknown reasons; however it underscores the severity of the ongoing diplomatic crisis and just how significant the upcoming isolation between Russia and the West is likely to become in the coming months - unless of course tensions deescalate dramatically in the very near future - resulting in even greater collapse in global commerce and a further slowdown to world economic growth, which may ultimately lead to an armed conflict, whether regional or global, as the only possible outcome.
Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad | Zero Hedge

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Coup 10-12-2016 02:18 PM

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SuckOnThis 10-12-2016 02:34 PM

Uh huh.

And if Trump were President during the Cuban Missile Crisis you'd already be dead or never born.

Coup 10-12-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 21217897)
Uh huh.

And if Trump were President during the Cuban Missile Crisis you'd already be dead or never born.

PressTV-Russia test-fires 3 ballistic missiles

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Russia's military has test-fired three intercontinental ballistic missiles amid increasing tensions with the US on a range of issues, particularly the Syrian crisis.

The Russian Defense Ministry said the Russian forces fired a nuclear-capable rocket from a Pacific Fleet submarine in the Sea of Okhotsk north of Japan on Wednesday.

A Topol missile was further shot off from a submarine in the Barents Sea, while a third was launched from an inland site in the country's northwest, Russian news agencies reported.

The launches come at a time when relations between Russia and the US have hit their lowest point in years following the collapse of a ceasefire in Syria.

?Russia drills pose no threat to anyone?

In another development on Wednesday, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu accused the West of trying to portray his country?s military exercises as threats, saying the drills are no source of concern but rather part of usual combat training measures.


Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu (Photo by AP)
Speaking at a press briefing in Moscow, Shoigu rejected ?reproaches? from Western countries that are afraid of the level of Russia?s combat readiness and capability.

?Scheduled activities of our operational and combat training are misrepresented as 'alarming signals'. The ideas of a military threat, a new cold war or an arms race are being circulated. Of course, it is not true,? he said.
The minister further assured that the military exercises are aimed at ensuring Russia?s security.

Russia has held a series of drills and inspections of its armed forces? combat readiness in recent months.

The Caucasus 2016 exercises, which were one of Russia?s biggest war games, were held at the Southern Military District as well as in the Black and Caspian seas on September 5-10.

Russia and China also held their first exercises in May. They will also hold their second joint anti-missile drills next year.

Earlier this week, Russia announced plans to hold joint drills with Egyptian forces, dubbed the Protectors of Friendship-2016 military exercises, in Egypt in mid-October.

Coup 10-12-2016 02:38 PM

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Russia?s Kremlin put forward new plans for a war time regime that would allow President Vladimir Putin to consolidate power should the country go to war in the near future.

Russian local governments, the interior ministry, the Federal Security Service (FSB, Russian intelligence) and its national guard will report to the military directly if the country goes to war, Russia?s Izvestia newspaper reported Tuesday. The war time game plan involves a centralization of power not seen since the height of the Soviet Union.

The announcement of the plan follows the completion of a massive four-day civil defense exercise, which involved around 40 million Russians. While Russia has engaged in similar exercises since 2012, its timing comes as U.S.-Russian relations continue to deteriorate to their worst since the Cold War.

U.S. and Russian quarrels over Syria have acted as a catalyst for increased provocations from Russia; which include veiled threats to shoot down U.S. aircraft, the stationing of deadly Iskandar nuclear missiles near the borders of NATO members and the bombing of a United Nations aid convoy. Relations took a drastic fall after a failed Syrian ceasefire between Russia and the U.S. in September forced Secretary of State John Kerry to cut off Syria talks.

Russia has made several military advances in preparation for war, in addition to its government plans. Russian forces in Syria were bolstered with several new S-300 surface-to-air missile batteries shortly after the ceasefire collapsed. Additionally, Russia?s defense ministry announced Monday that it will build two new bases in the Middle East ? one in Syria will upgrade a current naval facility and another former Soviet air base in Egypt.

U.S. Navy Adm. (ret.) James Stavridis, the former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, warned that war with Russia is inevitable if Putin remains unchecked, according to the forward of a book published by his former deputy Sir Alexander Shirreff in May.

?Under President Putin, Russia has charted a dangerous course that, if it is allowed to continue, may lead inexorably to a clash with NATO,? wrote Stavridis. ?And that will mean a war that could so easily go nuclear.?
Putin Prepares His Government For War With The West | The Daily Caller

Coup 10-12-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 21217897)
Uh huh.

And if Trump were President during the Cuban Missile Crisis you'd already be dead or never born.



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Coup 10-12-2016 02:51 PM

Russia don't want us fucking with syria, Soon to be president Hillary Clinton is determined to fuck with Syria. When we fuck with Syria, Russia will retaliate. Bada-Boom Bada-Bing war with Russia.

Now how will that be Trump's fault if it happens, smart guy? I don't know if you've noticed.. but Trump ain't the one that's going to be president.

EddyTheDog 10-12-2016 02:54 PM

At least you realise now that Trump will lose...

2MuchMark 10-12-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21217942)
At least you realise now that Trump will lose...

Big time.

Coup 10-12-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21217942)
At least you realise now that Trump will lose...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you still think that I.. oh nevermind.. LMAO

Holy fuck.. lmao :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Coup 10-12-2016 03:00 PM

It's cool that you're all so OK with your chosen cult leader that is an even bigger liar and scumbag than trump is though.

I wish I could turn my brain off like that.


EddyTheDog 10-12-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21217954)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you still think that I.. oh nevermind.. LMAO

Holy fuck.. lmao :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not as innocent as I sometimes make out - You knew that already though:winkwink:...

Coup 10-12-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21218008)
I'm not as innocent as I sometimes make out - You knew that already though:winkwink:...

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just a punk 10-12-2016 03:25 PM

I don't get this "Trump vs Hilary" thing. A WWIII and a destruction of the whole our planet is practically unavoidable and it doesn't matter who will be the next US president. Both superpowers have means and a will to destroy the planet. They don't have a way to control the rest of the world and they are seeking for a small chance to start the Armageddon. That's just a matter of time...

Coup 10-12-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21218038)
I don't get this "Trump vs Hilary" thing. A WWIII and a destruction of the whole our planet is practically unavoidable and it doesn't matter who will be the next US president.

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just a punk 10-12-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21218047)

Nobody will. The process could be stopped in 1999-2001 or so (I can explain why and how), but not now.

Coup 10-12-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21218056)
Nobody will.

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Coup 10-12-2016 03:43 PM

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Google Expert 10-12-2016 03:47 PM

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Coup 10-12-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 21218140)

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Sarn 10-12-2016 04:20 PM

what sunglasses in fashion today for look at the nuclear explosion?

Coup 10-12-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21218221)
what sunglasses in fashion today for look at the nuclear explosion?

Welding goggles, IMO

Sarn 10-12-2016 04:32 PM

I do not think that the conflict will start between the US and Russia.
The Cold War taught that it is not a profitable activity.
But on the third countries... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 10-12-2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21218038)
I don't get this "Trump vs Hilary" thing. A WWIII and a destruction of the whole our planet is practically unavoidable and it doesn't matter who will be the next US president. Both superpowers have means and a will to destroy the planet. They don't have a way to control the rest of the world and they are seeking for a small chance to start the Armageddon. That's just a matter of time...

Nah, I disagree. People, big companies and governments all want money, and there's no money to be made in a nuclear war. There will always be conflicts popping up here and there but they will all be fought like they are now.

I think this is true even if North Korea's Kim Jung Un decides to launch some nukes. He might hit someone and cause alot of damage, but the retaliation would be non-nuclear.

Also its worth noting that as the US election draws closer, we'll see more and more scary stories and threats popping up.

2MuchMark 10-12-2016 04:53 PM

For example:

Putin Ally Tells Americans: Vote Trump or Face Nuclear War - NBC News

Gee, I wonder who paid this guy to say that?

Hillary 2016.

Rochard 10-12-2016 04:55 PM

Do any of you even read any more?

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

They aren't pulling the kids back because they are planning to go to war, but because they think it looks bad that the nation's political elite are being trained abroad.

Sarn 10-12-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21218269)
For example:

Putin Ally Tells Americans: Vote Trump or Face Nuclear War - NBC News

Gee, I wonder who paid this guy to say that?

Hillary 2016.

he has the third largest party in the Duma(like congress in usa)
http://cs619422.vk.me/v619422881/3be1/WSxN8foWa3s.jpg

Jewish mafia of course plays on the side of Hilary:1orglaugh

Sarn 10-12-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21218278)
Do any of you even read any more?

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

They aren't pulling the kids back because they are planning to go to war, but because they think it looks bad that the nation's political elite are being trained abroad.

They absolutely do not care about it. Their reputation is difficult to spoil more than they have now.

Grapesoda 10-12-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21218278)
Do any of you even read any more?

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

They aren't pulling the kids back because they are planning to go to war, but because they think it looks bad that the nation's political elite are being trained abroad.

and Hillary is in putins pocket already. why would he care if she was prez?

Coup 10-12-2016 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21218278)
Do any of you even read any more?

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

They aren't pulling the kids back because they are planning to go to war, but because they think it looks bad that the nation's political elite are being trained abroad.


https://www.google.com/search?q=russ...paring+for+war

Sure thing, Rochard. You Master of Understanding Things

Coup 10-12-2016 05:58 PM

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...r-with-russia/

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For the first time in a quarter-century, the prospect of war—real war, war between the major powers—will be on the agenda of Western leaders when they meet at the NATO Summit in Warsaw, Poland, on July 8 and 9. Dominating the agenda in Warsaw (aside, of course, from the “Brexit” vote in the UK) will be discussion of plans to reinforce NATO’s “eastern flank”—the arc of former Soviet partners stretching from the Baltic states to the Black Sea that are now allied with the West but fear military assault by Moscow. Until recently, the prospect of such an attack was given little credence in strategic circles, but now many in NATO believe a major war is possible and that robust defensive measures are required.

In what is likely to be its most significant move, the Warsaw summit is expected to give formal approval to a plan to deploy four multinational battalions along the eastern flank—one each in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. Although not deemed sufficient to stop a determined Russian assault, the four battalions would act as a “tripwire,” thrusting soldiers from numerous NATO countries into the line of fire and so ensuring a full-scale, alliance-wide response. This, it is claimed, will deter Russia from undertaking such a move in the first place or ensure its defeat should it be foolhardy enough to start a war.

The United States, of course, is deeply involved in these initiatives. Not only will it supply many of the troops for the four multinational battalions, but it is also taking many steps of its own to bolster NATO’s eastern flank. Spending on the Pentagon’s “European Reassurance Initiative” will quadruple, climbing from $789 million in 2016 to $3.4 billion in 2017. Much of this additional funding will go to the deployment, on a rotating basis, of an additional armored-brigade combat team in northern Europe.

As a further indication of US and NATO determination to prepare for a possible war with Russia, the alliance recently conducted the largest war games in Eastern Europe since the end of the Cold War. Known as Anakonda 2016, the exercise involved some 31,000 troops (about half of them Americans) and thousands of combat vehicles from 24 nations in simulated battle maneuvers across the breadth of Poland. A parallel naval exercise, BALTOPS 16, simulated “high-end maritime warfighting” in the Baltic Sea, including in waters near Kaliningrad, a heavily defended Russian enclave wedged between Poland and Lithuania.

All of this—the aggressive exercises, the NATO buildup, the added US troop deployments—reflects a new and dangerous strategic outlook in Washington. Whereas previously the strategic focus had been on terrorism and counterinsurgency, it has now shifted to conventional warfare among the major powers. “Today’s security environment is dramatically different than the one we’ve been engaged in for the last 25 years,” observed Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter on February 2, when unveiling the Pentagon’s $583 billion budget for fiscal year 2017. Until recently, he explained, American forces had largely been primed to defeat insurgent and irregular forces, such as the Taliban in Afghanistan. Now, however, the Pentagon was being readied for “a return to great-power competition,” including the possibility of all-out combat with “high-end enemies” like Russia and China.

By preparing for war, Washington and NATO are setting in motion forces that could achieve precisely that outcome.
The budgetary and force-deployment implications of this are enormous in their own right, but so is this embrace of “great-power competition” as a guiding star for US strategy. During the Cold War, it was widely assumed that the principal task of the US military was to prepare for all-out combat with the Soviet Union, and that such preparation must envision the likelihood of nuclear escalation. Since then, American forces have seen much horrible fighting in the Middle East and Afghanistan, but none of that has involved combat with another major power, and none entailed the risk of nuclear escalation—for which we should all be thankful. Now, however, Secretary Carter and his aides are seriously thinking about—and planning for—conflicts that would involve another major power and could escalate to the nuclear realm.

It’s hard to know where to begin when commenting on all this, given the atmosphere of Cold War hysteria. There is, first of all, the question of proportionality: are US and NATO moves on the eastern flank in keeping with the magnitude of the threat posed by Russia? Russian intervention in Crimea and eastern Ukraine is certainly provocative and repugnant, but cannot unequivocally be deemed a direct threat to NATO. Other Russian moves in the region, such as incursions by Russian ships and planes into the airspace and coastal waters of NATO members, are more worrisome, but appear to be more political messaging than a prelude to invasion. Basically, it’s very hard to imagine a scenario in which Russia would initiate an armed attack on NATO.

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Then there is the matter of self-fulfilling prophecies. By announcing the return of great-power competition and preparing for a war with Russia, the United States and NATO are setting in motion forces that could, in the end, achieve precisely that outcome. This is not to say that Moscow is guiltless regarding the troubled environment along the eastern front, but surely Vladimir Putin has reason to claim that the NATO initiatives pose a substantially heightened threat to Russian security and so justify a corresponding Russian buildup. Any such moves will, of course, invite yet additional NATO deployments, followed by complementary Russian moves, and so on—until we’re right back in a Cold War–like situation.

Finally, there is the risk of accident, miscalculation, and escalation. This arises with particular severity in the case of US/NATO exercises on the edge of Russian territory, especially Kaliningrad. In all such actions, there is a constant danger that one side or the other will overreact to a perceived threat and take steps leading to combat and, conceivably, all-out war. When two Russian fighters flew within 30 feet of a US destroyer sailing in the Baltic Sea this past April, Secretary of State John Kerry told CNN that under US rules of engagement, the planes could have been shot down. Imagine where that could have led. Fortunately, the captain of the destroyer chose to exercise restraint and a serious incident was averted. But as more US and NATO forces are deployed on the edge of Russian territory and both sides engage in provocative military maneuvers, dangerous encounters of this sort are sure to increase in frequency, and the risk of their ending badly will only grow.

No doubt the NATO summit in Warsaw will be overshadowed to some degree by the UK’s Brexit vote and ensuing political turmoil in Europe. But as Western leaders settle down to business, they must not allow their inclination to “demonstrate unity” and “act resolutely” lead them to approve military moves that are inherently destabilizing. Surely it is possible to reassure the Baltic states and Poland without deploying many thousands of additional troops there and inviting an additional military buildup on the Russian side.


Coup 10-12-2016 06:29 PM

Russia, US move past Cold War to unpredictable confrontation

Russia, US move past Cold War to unpredictable confrontation - CNNPolitics.com

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"This is the most dangerous time since I don't know when," said Stent of Georgetown University, who added that the next few months before the new US president takes office will likely be eventful.

Coup 10-12-2016 07:19 PM

Anyone remember how Iraq was getting demonized in the press in the run-up to that war?

Well Guess what?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Russ...&source=l nms
About 5,830,000 results

FUuuuuuccckkkk

RummyBoy 10-12-2016 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21218437)
Anyone remember how Iraq was getting demonized in the press in the run-up to that war?

And all the others.... gaddafi, etc, etc. The alternative media is discussing this actively in the blogosphere and on youtube. They all know that if Hillary goes in, nothing will change and since the two (US and Russia) are already on a path towards collision, the collision will happen.

Putin Ally Warns Americans To Vote For Trump Or Face Nuclear War | Zero Hedge

Won't surprise me if a nuclear exchange happened shortly after Hillary got in the white house. Their analysts would probably be preparing them to be pre-emptive.

Coup 10-12-2016 07:47 PM

Election 2016: Have Russian hackers already handed Vladimir Putin a victory? - CNNPolitics.com
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US election: Have Russian hackers already handed Putin a win?
OMG U GUYS I̶R̶A̶Q̶ RUSSIA HAS C̶H̶E̶M̶I̶C̶A̶L̶ ̶W̶E̶A̶P̶O̶N̶S̶ RUSSIAN HACKERS

I'm looking forward to seeing no evidence what-so-ever to support these claims. The Rochards of America are going to buy this hook, line, and sinker.

KillerK 10-12-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 21217918)

why do you post shit from bsnbc?

Relic 10-12-2016 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21218287)
Jewish mafia of course plays on the side of Hilary


SuckOnThis 10-12-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 21218662)
why do you post shit from bsnbc?


Oh, sorry. Here's something you can probably agree with more.....

:1orglaugh


Paul Markham 10-13-2016 12:22 AM

At the momentRussia is threatening to take control of Syria. When that's accomplished will Putin decide to take on Iraq?

Then what?

All because the West's obsession with feeling guilty over Muslims inability to stop killing each other. There's only one reason the ME is a shithole, that's because of the people of the ME. Assad is one man he's just the tip of the iceberg. Beneath him are a million people supporting him. Same with Kim, Gadhaffi, Saddam, etc.


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