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Brian mike 10-16-2016 06:07 AM

Would you like a GFY Scammer & Ripped off Sticky thread ?
 
Lately i heard many Story of GFY Members being ripped off or Scammed by other members from this Forum.

So my question ; Should we have a Scammer & Ripped off Sticky thread to have the one identified as aka scammer EXPOSE to our community.

Discuss :pimp

bmwracer41 10-16-2016 06:38 AM

Great idea
 
Great idea brian mike


thanks

Brian mike 10-16-2016 06:47 AM

Trust me, i have my own bad deal or bad experience with some people too.

My 2 years here have been great so far and i would like 2017 and on to be the same or better .

we need to stop this mess....

:thumbsup

j3rkules 10-16-2016 06:52 AM

It would be great (it has been discussed in the the past). I always check the person before doing any business.

candyflip 10-16-2016 06:56 AM

Been here 15+ years. If you get scammed at this point, it's your own damn fault for being an idiot.

Brian mike 10-16-2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 21225856)
Been here 15+ years. If you get scammed at this point, it's your own damn fault for being an idiot.

I completely agree it's our fault. In my case from now on, i just deal with reputable freelancer.
Will not try Anyone New or will ask reference from other members on GFY.

:pimp

bmwracer41 10-16-2016 07:26 AM

@candyflip
 
@candyflip

Not always true.....

You buy a link , seller puts up, your happy, send money


next week Link gone and your money


Your Fucked ......

Many good transactions here, and been fucked on others

Other GFY members should know

Make it difficult for scammers to keep working

Brian mike 10-16-2016 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwracer41 (Post 21225910)
Make it difficult for scammers to keep working

This :thumbsup

Andreweb 10-16-2016 07:37 AM

Everyone should know who is reliable and who is a scammer ! So a thread like that is a must IMHO

3xmedia 10-16-2016 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 21225856)
Been here 15+ years. If you get scammed at this point, it's your own damn fault for being an idiot.

:2 cents::2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 10-16-2016 08:32 AM

Yes, of course.

celandina 10-16-2016 08:39 AM

I vote for that:thumbsup

Paul Markham 10-16-2016 08:44 AM

So long as it contains a part for the good guys.

Brian mike 10-16-2016 08:53 AM

what about a buyers / sellers reputation point or something like that ? I Wonder what would be " GFY Admin " input on this.

Like many i know it's a subject that can be very controversial but something need to be done. It's just getting Worst .

IMO.

Klen 10-16-2016 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 21226072)
what about a buyers / sellers reputation point or something like that ?

I Wonder what would be " GFY Admin " input on this. Like many i know it's a subject that can be very controversial , but something need to be done. It's just getting Worst IMO.

There is thing called "itrader" mod for vbulletin which does that, and it is used on many boards, tho admins here always refused to add due "how can be abused". Ofcourse, it can be abused and it shall not be taken as granted, but it still a helpful as additional information when deciding to do business with someone or not.

Brian mike 10-16-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 21226126)
There is thing called "itrader" mod for vbulletin which does that, and it is used on many boards, tho admins here always refused to add due "how can be abused". Ofcourse, it can be abused and it shall not be taken as granted, but it still a helpful as additional information when deciding to do business with someone or not.

I have to say i understand that part about it can be abused, But it would be helpful as you mention.

thanks for your input KlenTelaris :)

NatalieK 10-16-2016 01:55 PM

yes why not.

It's always good to chuck the crap out, able to run a business without worrying who not to trust & complete trusting deals :thumbsup

NatalieK 10-16-2016 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 21226306)
I have to say i understand that part about it can be abused, But it would be helpful as you mention.

thanks for your input KlenTelaris :)

I can't see how it would be abused, like the rules say, post proof or be banned :2 cents:

Brian mike 10-16-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21226459)
I can't see how it would be abused, like the rules say, post proof or be banned :2 cents:

Good point :winkwink: if we go this way :)

sicone 10-16-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21226459)
I can't see how it would be abused, like the rules say, post proof or be banned :2 cents:

You don't even understand the post proof or be banned rule. However, the mod was once in use and it was HORRIBLY abused. To make it easier for you to understand how, what do you think your rep would around here if one of your fans you constantly bicker with was able to downvote your rep with a simple click on every post you make. And not just once per post, but multiple times...

Smack dat 10-16-2016 03:03 PM

Idea sucks. It's been talked to death.
No one gives a fuck.
I deal with who I deal with because I trust them. Everyone else can suck a goat.

Scammers will just keep coming back because their is no lock on the door and anyone can just walk in.
A rep system might work but AVN have had years to develop it (a plugin) but they didn't bother because plugins need updating and like anyone can be bothered to update gfy more that once every couple of months.

gnawledge 10-16-2016 03:07 PM

Being ripped off and buying a product with "You've already paid, you're last on the list" mentality is probably just as bad.

I guess that's why you have to go with people and products that are known and pay a little more than settling for I guess a no body.

Brian mike 10-17-2016 03:59 AM

I just won one of the fight to get my money back from one Scammer around here.

https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/12...pt-sale-3.html

This is not a big amount of $ but im sure many lost WAY more than this. The fact is
if no one tried to stop them they will go around as they like doing the same over and over again.
Im still on it, we need a sticky thread to Expose those LOW LIFE :pimp

As mention above This would make their work very hard around here. IMO

:thumbsup

k0nr4d 10-17-2016 04:13 AM

I think it's pointless. Why? Because it will turn into a 100 page thread that no one will read through. People will have to use the search function anyways, and if everyone who gets scammed has an individual thread about it the person being accused will at least have a forum to defend themselves on should they chose to do so. Some people are outright thieves and scammers, but in many cases there are two parts to a story.

Tjeezers 10-17-2016 05:05 AM

these threads have no organisation or order
they tend to become chaotic and pointless

Brian mike 10-17-2016 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe (Post 21227278)
these threads have no organisation or order
they tend to become chaotic and pointless

I have seen other forum who use it. To give you an idea Just my thread have make few people contacting me
about their story " i have been scam too " type but don't know what to do. I'm no laywer but i will do everything i can to help other in same situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 21227173)
but in many cases there are two parts to a story.

joke aside down here we say there is " 3 side to a story "

1- Your side of the story
2- My side of the story
3- and THE TRUE

Just saying :)

NoWhErE 10-17-2016 05:48 AM

I don't think its a good idea, it'll just turn into a witch hunt.

Maybe implement a Shit List idea like on BHW. When someone feels they've been scammed, they call them out on the shitlist. There, they debate the case and a mod makes a decision (which usually results in one of them being banned).

Brian mike 10-17-2016 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 21227353)
Maybe implement a Shit List idea like on BHW. When someone feels they've been scammed, they call them out on the shitlist. There, they debate the case and a mod makes a decision (which usually results in one of them being banned).

I like that, Not a bad idea i have to admit :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 10-17-2016 06:16 AM

No.

GFY is like "Kangaroo Court."
I would rather see each scam accusation made and evidence presented de novo, [starting from the beginning; anew.]

Learn to use Google 'site:gfy.com scams'
or member's name + scam (rip off, etc)
The PHP search on V Bulletin has always sucked.

Brian mike 10-17-2016 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21227416)
No.

GFY is like "Kangaroo Court."
I would rather see each scam accusation made and evidence presented de novo, [starting from the beginning; anew.]

Learn to use Google 'site:gfy.com scams'
or member's name + scam (rip off, etc)
The PHP search on V Bulletin has always sucked.

I see your point here Barry. Your right search on VB sucks by time.

I will start using this to search Google 'site:gfy.com scams' or member's name + scam (rip off, etc)
as a part of screening process in the future.

Thanks for your input :thumbsup

candyflip 10-17-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwracer41 (Post 21225910)
@candyflip

Not always true.....

You buy a link , seller puts up, your happy, send money


next week Link gone and your money


Your Fucked ......

Many good transactions here, and been fucked on others

Other GFY members should know

Make it difficult for scammers to keep working

Don't buy links from shitty fly by night operations maybe?

C H R I S 10-17-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 21227353)
I don't think its a good idea, it'll just turn into a witch hunt.

Maybe implement a Shit List idea like on BHW. When someone feels they've been scammed, they call them out on the shitlist. There, they debate the case and a mod makes a decision (which usually results in one of them being banned).

I agree

8char

Paul Markham 10-18-2016 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21226459)
I can't see how it would be abused, like the rules say, post proof or be banned :2 cents:

This is a rule that's not enforced enough.

Here's my rule on business. Trust and credit are things that are earned. you don't have to always earn it with me. Just show you have earned it with others that I can check on.

Cost me a lot of money to learn that. :(

Brian mike 11-10-2016 08:07 AM

Poll closed.

@Eric can we have a forum or sticky thread to expose those scammers :thumbsup

Yes or no ?

Thanks anyway :winkwink:

NatalieK 11-10-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 21226510)
You don't even understand the post proof or be banned rule. However, the mod was once in use and it was HORRIBLY abused. To make it easier for you to understand how, what do you think your rep would around here if one of your fans you constantly bicker with was able to downvote your rep with a simple click on every post you make. And not just once per post, but multiple times...

Actually, I know first hand about people abusing the system, whether the trolls here constantly harassing my threads, creating a mockery of GFY & some how making it look like it could be me arguing. Also, my reviews on review sites have been abused in the past by obvious trolls here, as nothing said until I again, create a thread and then within an hour a bad review of 0 and saying how shit the content is, impossible, when all my members always speak to me personally in my paid fan area.

You may have not understood, I was saying, it would be impossible to abuse a scammer forum & scam thread as the op or posters would need proof of the bad deal or scam.

A rep system could be abused, unless, the rep system was with name of reputation poster, because once again, a thread could be created saying how that poster has abused the system & that abuser would be banned. Simple as :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21229885)
This is a rule that's not enforced enough.

Here's my rule on business. Trust and credit are things that are earned. you don't have to always earn it with me. Just show you have earned it with others that I can check on.

Cost me a lot of money to learn that. :(

This isn't true Paul. Yes many things are said on GFY & some times trolls abuse the system. However, if a thread has been created, there's never been an abused time where without proof the poster has been allowed to stay on GFY.

A scammer forum is a good idea, before deals, you look down and see who's not good to work with & opening the thread, you would read the bad business deal.

Maybe 2 sub forums in a scam & good business forum, the second thread, for good business deals, the titles always just the name of the username or business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 21226468)
Good point :winkwink: if we go this way :)

Thanks, it is :thumbsup

JesseQuinn 11-10-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21227416)
No.

I would rather see each scam accusation made and evidence presented de novo

:2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21227416)
Learn to use Google 'site:gfy.com scams'
or member's name + scam (rip off, etc)
The PHP search on V Bulletin has always sucked.

if peeps feel compelled to have a sticky, why not one that, rather than of a list of names, offers tips/strategies such as the above on how peeps here can protect themselves?

what seems basic to some might not be to others

RSD 11-10-2016 04:40 PM

A top list would also be a nice nice to have.

adultchatpay 11-11-2016 12:47 AM

Good idea, but Gfy admin should carefully investigate such rip offs before posting. Otherwise it will ruin a company for ever.

Brian mike 11-11-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 21291886)
Good idea, but Gfy admin should carefully investigate such rip offs before posting. Otherwise it will ruin a company for ever.

I think any company or individual will come in and Explain them self. On many forum False accusation have turn out to be a Huge advertising at the end
for the accused because it was proved the accusation was bogus. It's a knife with 2 side. The best Freelancer / contractor on GFY will get ALL OUR BUSINESS
and the bad one will Shut down or find another Forum to scammed their members unfortunetly but no more on GFY. At least let's try to make it difficult for them AND REWARD the good one. IMO

:thumbsup 2017 Let's MAKE GFY GREAT AGAIN :thumbsup

VOTE BRIAN :pimp JANUARY 2017 NO ?

:1orglaugh

Adnium_Ivana 11-11-2016 09:39 AM

As someone who supports transparency in business I am all for this. I like the reputation suggestion as well :2 cents: Let's get on this today

Brian mike 11-11-2016 09:47 AM

Many complaint again just on the first page OVER 10+ so far From Scammers or sponsors program who don't pay ..


:disgust

Brian mike 11-14-2016 10:58 AM

@Eric :winkwink: ??

one more time ....:)

MaDalton 11-14-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 21225856)
Been here 15+ years. If you get scammed at this point, it's your own damn fault for being an idiot.

and some people do have good memory..

apb 11-14-2016 01:07 PM

This could be handy, but like someone else said, it could easily be abused and if there are 1,000s of posts to go through, it could become confusing for someone new to the industry. :2 cents:

Brian mike 03-21-2017 04:21 PM

Another one Bite the Dust :1orglaugh

https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/12...s-300x250.html

Brian mike 04-12-2017 05:31 AM

Another one.....

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...1#post21699565

:2 cents:

Brian mike 08-03-2019 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 21226126)
There is thing called "itrader" mod for vbulletin which does that, and it is used on many boards, tho admins here always refused to add due "how can be abused". Ofcourse, it can be abused and it shall not be taken as granted, but it still a helpful as additional information when deciding to do business with someone or not.

How about now sir :1orglaugh

Wondering :)

brassmonkey 08-03-2019 08:51 AM

i think it should be called "the dirty list" a section with a pinned thread with an updated list of sponsors that not payed. scam alerts are posted in there.(alerts are their own post)

Brian mike 08-03-2019 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22512373)
i think it should be called "the dirty list" a section with a pinned thread with an updated list of sponsors that not payed. scam alerts are posted in there.(alerts are their own post)

interesting input you got there :thumbsup

PornDiscounts-V 08-03-2019 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 21227173)
I think it's pointless. Why? Because it will turn into a 100 page thread that no one will read through. People will have to use the search function anyways, and if everyone who gets scammed has an individual thread about it the person being accused will at least have a forum to defend themselves on should they chose to do so. Some people are outright thieves and scammers, but in many cases there are two parts to a story.

I'm with this guy


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