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Grapesoda 10-25-2016 06:17 AM

a question for dems actually working in porn
 
so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?

BlackCrayon 10-25-2016 06:29 AM

its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.

Joshua G 10-25-2016 06:32 AM

liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!

:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 10-25-2016 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21246379)
so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?

Way to compare oranges and latex gloves.
How do you feel about large tubes not paying out any money to you as content producer? I mean income tax. Or what ever.

Paul Markham 10-25-2016 06:56 AM

As technology progresses there will be no alternative but to share more with those who can't get a job that pays a decent wage.

Tubes killed many businesses because most of the money spent was going to a small sector of the business. As the big ones harvest more of the traffic small tubes will whither.

As big dating, cam, porn sites get bigger and crush small ones. Many people will lose jobs and income.

As robots replace human workers, what happens to our customer base, will they be too poor to buy enough to sustain our income, or subsidised so we can still sell?

You can't keep saying fuck them, I'm alright Jack.

We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.

Joshua G 10-25-2016 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21246457)
We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.

& where is this 21st century thinking going to come from? the US public schools that train children that white people are born racist? the new math?

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 10-25-2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 21246415)
its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.

I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter :1orglaugh

Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...

MaDalton 10-25-2016 07:35 AM

i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted

kkkkkk 10-25-2016 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21246469)
I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter :1orglaugh

Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...


kkkkkk 10-25-2016 07:38 AM

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trevesty 10-25-2016 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246571)
i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted

:thumbsup:thumbsup

crockett 10-25-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21246379)
so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?

Meanwhile you support Republicans who give money away to their corporate masters while fucking the tax payer at every turn..

How did manwin taking everything over work for you?

2MuchMark 10-25-2016 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21246421)
liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!

:1orglaugh


Actually, Liberals in porn are quite happy. We're working hard, making money, and enjoying life.

The paranoid haters like you on the other hand...

C H R I S 10-25-2016 08:36 AM

Like you Trumpers work in the business... lol.

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 21246415)
its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.

I agree... I know the economy is getting worse from just looking around, seeing all the closed business etc.... I see those with out money extorting money from those that do with threats of violence... political correctness and 'diversity' being the common tools used for this endeavor.

with less than half the population even paying federal tax I don't see it getting much better with the people that do not pay taxes demanding tax money... or fucking else... the tubes are a dream business model compared to our social economic situation.

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21246421)
liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and start a performers union lol!!

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21246442)
Way to compare oranges and latex gloves.
How do you feel about large tubes not paying out any money to you as content producer? I mean income tax. Or what ever.

I'm stating that distribution of assets without compensation is a negative situation and bad for an economy... I'm not sure about your stance.... I've been shooting for 16 years, and I have personally witnessed the advent of tubes/piracy and the collapse of the economy.

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21246457)
As technology progresses there will be no alternative but to share more with those who can't get a job that pays a decent wage.

Tubes killed many businesses because most of the money spent was going to a small sector of the business. As the big ones harvest more of the traffic small tubes will whither.

As big dating, cam, porn sites get bigger and crush small ones. Many people will lose jobs and income.

As robots replace human workers, what happens to our customer base, will they be too poor to buy enough to sustain our income, or subsidised so we can still sell?

You can't keep saying fuck them, I'm alright Jack.

We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.

lots of jobs leaving CZ?

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21246460)
& where is this 21st century thinking going to come from? the US public schools that train children that white people are born racist? the new math?

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21246469)
I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter :1orglaugh

Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...

I'm thinking too much money is involved now for the religious right, which by the way is very separate from financial conservatism, to be able to do anything like that with out a civil war.

proof being that gay marriages were not passed by a vote in California. a state judge canceled the vote and personally made gay marriages legal in California. a similar situation is Los Angeles in the 90's, voters passed a bill that would stop benefits to illegal aliens. the Los Angels City Council sued and got the bill over turned.

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246571)
i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted

I have heard of the conspiracy the church working with homosexual advocacy groups to push condoms and attack porn... never really gave it much thought... but you don't have a party doing this do you? I thought this was an American thing not affecting you in CZ? were I you I would not give the matter a thought.

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21246631)
Meanwhile you support Republicans who give money away to their corporate masters while fucking the tax payer at every turn..

How did manwin taking everything over work for you?

where did you get this information that I support republicans? and the vulgarity....

the US government took over 50% for years and years, manwin really hasn't affected my business nearly as much as condoms. there are few reliable, quality content producers. just ask Ma. :2 cents:

MaDalton 10-25-2016 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21246745)
I have heard of the conspiracy the church working with homosexual advocacy groups to push condoms and attack porn... never really gave it much thought... but you don't have a party doing this do you? I thought this was an American thing not affecting you in CZ? were I you I would not give the matter a thought.

2257 laws and inspections do affect me a lot - and my clients

Joshua G 10-25-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246571)
i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted

why is mr censorship discussing laws that dont effect his country? shouldnt you be busy trying to ban GFY posters you dont like?

:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21246661)
Actually, Liberals in porn are quite happy. We're working hard, making money, and enjoying life.

The paranoid haters like you on the other hand...

the tubes benefitted your business because you sell live interface. you are certainly the wrong one to speak of the damage from tubes Mark.

how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm paranoid or a hater is something you might want to consider... you have reality twisted to some strange and completely untrue world.

this is why I seldom take you comments seriously and beside if everything got a bit smoother down here, how would you make yourself feel superior?

and here is a direct question: how much money should everyone give up, even you. 80%? 85%? 40%? what's your thought?

:2 cents:

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246757)
2257 laws and inspections do affect me a lot - and my clients

yes they do and those have been pretty quiet and that's good, condom will only help your business model.

MaDalton 10-25-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21246787)
yes they do and those have been pretty quiet and that's good, condom will only help your business model.

that is certainly up to interpretation - some said Prop 60 would affect all content made available in California

also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit

i wish that our industry prospers, new technologies will open totaly new opportunities and the last thing i need is politics to get involved even more than already

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246820)
that is certainly up to interpretation - some said Prop 60 would affect all content made available in California

also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit

i wish that our industry prospers, new technologies will open totaly new opportunities and the last thing i need is politics to get involved even more than already

yes prop 60 will doom porn in cally for sure, ma I haven't shot sex for almost 3 years and I couldn't be happier... only a few people I know enjoy shooting sex, to most of us it's just a very difficult job filled with flakes. although I will say I have met some really wonderful women and some cool guys as well... like any biz, choose who you work with if possible.

unfortunately politics are and always will be involved because there is money to be made and porn is low hanging fruit. I'm more concerned about internet freedom than I am about porn freedom. we both know that porn is going to predominantly user generated. my advice is back out now while you have time to build a new business model.

Joshua G 10-25-2016 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 21246820)

also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit

you mean like when you want people banned off this board because you want the forum to be more business-like?

:helpme

flashfire 10-25-2016 12:08 PM

Go ask Mike Pence what he thinks about our industry...the real day to day president should Trump win

crockett 10-25-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21246784)
the tubes benefitted your business because you sell live interface. you are certainly the wrong one to speak of the damage from tubes Mark.

how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm paranoid or a hater is something you might want to consider... you have reality twisted to some strange and completely untrue world.

this is why I seldom take you comments seriously and beside if everything got a bit smoother down here, how would you make yourself feel superior?

and here is a direct question: how much money should everyone give up, even you. 80%? 85%? 40%? what's your thought?

:2 cents:

How much did that George Bush 2257 affect your business and how much money did it take the industry to fight but yea you ignore that.. You also ignore the fact Trump has actually signed a pledge to fight online porn.. but boohoo liberals!!!

Grapesoda 10-25-2016 02:39 PM

2257 cost me some paper and a few file cabinits... you?


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