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onwebcam 10-27-2016 03:19 PM

How to give Hillary a 12 point lead
 
You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

METHODOLOGY

This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.

JSWENSON 10-27-2016 03:23 PM

When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

kane 10-27-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21252388)
You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

METHODOLOGY
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This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.

They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.

nico-t 10-27-2016 03:28 PM

any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.

JSWENSON 10-27-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21252409)
They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.

No way man. they should ask 100 Democrats and 100 Republicans to be fair! Hell, they should ask 100 Green Party candidates so it can be a 3 way tie in the polls!

onwebcam 10-27-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 21252403)
When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

You are aware Gallup no longer does polling because they were doing this and "picked" the wrong winner several times in a row.

Also there was a higher, in fact record high, turnout of Republican voters in the Primaries so the truth is its probably about an even percentage for this race.

Simply put there's not just one factor involved.

Rochard 10-27-2016 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21252409)
They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.

Problem solved.

Now, let's have another investigation about emails.

onwebcam 10-27-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21252448)
Problem solved.

Now, let's have another investigation about emails.

As usual you ignore the post just before yours debunking that concept.

JSWENSON 10-27-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21252421)
Simply put there's not just one factor involved.

There sure are, like the fact that national polls aren't important when the electoral college goes by state. How's that working out for Trumpy?

Early voting update ? an analysis of North Carolina and Florida - CBS News

kane 10-27-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21252421)
You are aware Gallup no longer does polling because they were doing this and "picked" the wrong winner several times in a row.

Also there was a higher, in fact record high, turnout of Republican voters in the Primaries so the truth is its probably about an even percentage for this race.

Simply put there's not just one factor involved.

A record high turnout of Republicans doesn't affect the polling data. They simply ask if you are registered to a party and who you plan to vote for. If the person says they are a registered Democrat and plan to vote for Hillary, you have to take them at their word. Maybe they won't vote for her come election day, but that doesn't mean the poll is wrong because the poll reflects the answers given to the questions asked.

I have said for a while this election may come down to turnout. The independents are clearly not happy with either candidate nor, frankly, are many members of either of the parties. Trump has a fired up core of supporters, and Hillary has a great ground game in place. Whoever can get more of their base to the polls on election day may well win this election.

Still, if you have 10 people and 4 of them are Republicans, 6 of them are Democrats, and 4 are independents you can't ignore one Democrat and go out and find another Republican to make it "fair" because that doesn't reflect the political make-up of the country.

onwebcam 10-27-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21252469)
A record high turnout of Republicans doesn't affect the polling data. They simply ask if you are registered to a party and who you plan to vote for. If the person says they are a registered Democrat and plan to vote for Hillary, you have to take them at their word. Maybe they won't vote for her come election day, but that doesn't mean the poll is wrong because the poll reflects the answers given to the questions asked.

I have said for a while this election may come down to turnout. The independents are clearly not happy with either candidate nor, frankly, are many members of either of the parties. Trump has a fired up core of supporters, and Hillary has a great ground game in place. Whoever can get more of their base to the polls on election day may well win this election.

Still, if you have 10 people and 4 of them are Republicans, 6 of them are Democrats, and 4 are independents you can't ignore one Democrat and go out and find another Republican to make it "fair" because that doesn't reflect the political make-up of the country.

Republicans had a record high and democrats had a low turnout. So yes it does matter. You can't just use one factor to figure. I would love to see latimes method myself because I honestly think theirs is a bit more of reality as far as polling. Just to cheap to pay for it :) I personally believe Trump will win popular and Clinton electoral because some will go against the electorate and it will drag out more than likely past inauguration day. History will be made on this election even more so than it is now. I hope it puts an end to the electoral college myself.

BTW that's 14 people

Seth Manson 10-27-2016 04:21 PM

All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

Oh wait, the media doesnt report that. Wonder why?

kane 10-27-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21252493)
Republicans had a record high and democrats had a low turnout. So yes it does matter. You can't just use one factor to figure. I would love to see latimes method myself because I honestly think theirs is a bit more of reality as far as polling. Just to cheap to pay for it :) I personally believe Trump will win popular and Clinton electoral because some will go against the electorate and it will drag out more than likely past inauguration day. History will be made on this election even more so than it is now. I hope it puts an end to the electoral college myself.

So your argument is that they should be asking more Republicans because more Republicans turned out to vote during the primary elections?

Also, not that many more Republicans voted in the primaries than Democrats.

Total votes cast for Republican candidates - 31.1 million
Total votes cast for Democrat candidates - 30.12 million

When you take into consideration that there are about 146 million registered voters and about 20 states have open primaries that allow independents to vote, that difference in primary votes is pretty small. It also is not a guarantee that all of those people will vote for Trump of the 31.1 million only 14.01 million actually voted for Trump.

And you're correct. My math was off in my previous example.

Also, BTW, I agree that the electoral college needs to go away. It is outdated and encourages corruption.

Google Expert 10-27-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21252388)
You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

METHODOLOGY

This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.

they're preparing the public for Hilary's win when they rig the elections

JSWENSON 10-27-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 21252508)
All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

Oh wait, the media doesnt report that. Wonder why?

Mostly because it's irrelevant.

But since you brought it up I am reporting the turnout for the North Carolina rally held by Hillary. Must win state for Trump.

http://i.imgur.com/W4fDDDU.jpg

C H R I S 10-27-2016 05:15 PM

Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.

onwebcam 10-27-2016 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21252517)
So your argument is that they should be asking more Republicans because more Republicans turned out to vote during the primary elections?

Also, not that many more Republicans voted in the primaries than Democrats.

Total votes cast for Republican candidates - 31.1 million
Total votes cast for Democrat candidates - 30.12 million

When you take into consideration that there are about 146 million registered voters and about 20 states have open primaries that allow independents to vote, that difference in primary votes is pretty small. It also is not a guarantee that all of those people will vote for Trump of the 31.1 million only 14.01 million actually voted for Trump.

And you're correct. My math was off in my previous example.

Also, BTW, I agree that the electoral college needs to go away. It is outdated and encourages corruption.

No but it can't be factored just by amount of registered voters. And as I've mentioned a number of times before the person and/or group that provides the call list provides the outcome.

"Hey, when can we meet? I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling."

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551

noshit 10-27-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 21252559)
Mostly because it's irrelevant.

But since you brought it up I am reporting the turnout for the North Carolina rally held by Hillary. Must win state for Trump.

http://i.imgur.com/W4fDDDU.jpg

Your Lost Puppy Festoon is Unraveling..!
Considering the Fact those People Showed Up To see Magilla Gorilla Michele Obama and Rottenham had to crash the party to give the appearance it was Her Crowd.... Pathetic..!

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JSWENSON 10-28-2016 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit (Post 21252646)
Your Lost Puppy Festoon is Unraveling..!
Considering the Fact those People Showed Up To see Magilla Gorilla Michele Obama and Rottenham had to crash the party to give the appearance it was Her Crowd.... Pathetic..!

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What's pathetic is racist pieces of shit calling the First Lady, who has higher approval ratings than everyone by the way, a gorilla. "But she made the kids eat healthy food!"

Waiter 10-28-2016 04:58 AM

Wake me up when October ends ...

noshit 10-28-2016 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 21253114)
What's pathetic is racist pieces of shit calling the First Lady, who has higher approval ratings than everyone by the way, a gorilla. "But she made the kids eat healthy food!"

Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value

Whereas Mobama's Sanctimonious Degradation of Women and Youth by Glorifying Drug Dealers and Date-Rape Rappers Poisons the Very People she Lies to You about caring for...
Not to mention her school lunch 'Nutrition' program is 3 Standard Deviations below the mean of Prison Food

oh and...

http://i.imgur.com/Y4EWdSc.jpg

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BlackCrayon 10-28-2016 06:34 AM

hillary is a corporate puppet and trump is an egomaniac fool who has no idea what he's doing. i can't believe this is the best shit the US could come up with. really sad. no matter who wins its bad news for everyone.

noshit 10-28-2016 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 21253435)
hillary is a corporate puppet and trump is an egomaniac fool who has no idea what he's doing. i can't believe this is the best shit the US could come up with. really sad. no matter who wins its bad news for everyone.

You Have no Clue what You're talking about, Sails. You're borderline Full-On mental retardation
Trump is the best thing to happen since George Washington

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Yanks_Todd 10-28-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21252598)
Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.


Amen seriously.

Yanks_Todd 10-28-2016 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 21253417)
Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value

Whereas Mobama's Sanctimonious Degradation of Women and Youth by Glorifying Drug Dealers and Date-Rape Rappers Poisons the Very People she Lies to You about caring for...
Not to mention her school lunch 'Nutrition' program is 3 Standard Deviations below the mean of Prison Food

oh and...

http://i.imgur.com/Y4EWdSc.jpg

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Why aren't people like this getting banned. Maybe it is time to be done here.

JSWENSON 10-28-2016 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21253498)
Why aren't people like this getting banned. Maybe it is time to be done here.

They've been around giving adult webmasters a bad name since the 90's and nobody gave a shit. Of course the edgy industry had quite a few assholes willing to risk owning adult sites back then but it's been time to clean house for a long ass time.

BlackCrayon 10-28-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 21253462)
You Have no Clue what You're talking about, Sails. You're borderline Full-On mental retardation
Trump is the best thing to happen since George Washington

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The only reason people like you like trump is because he is the anti-candidate. it doesn't make trump a good candidate by default. he could be a slobbering homeless person with half a head missing but because he doesn't represent the political status quo, you'd vote for him.

Rochard 10-28-2016 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21252598)
Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.

It's pure entertainment at this point.

2MuchMark 10-28-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit (Post 21253417)
Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value
http://i.imgur.com/Y4EWdSc.jpg

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Sucks to be you.


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JFK 10-28-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21252412)
any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

onwebcam 10-28-2016 09:38 AM

8 point lead change in a matter of days... What has changed in those days? Nothing.

Methodology

This ABC News/Washington poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Oct. 23-26, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,109 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 37-28-29 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.


Clinton's Lead Narrows to 4 Points, Wider Majority Expects Her to Win (POLL) - ABC News


She's dropping like bird shit in NYC in even the rigged polls.

TampaToker 10-28-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21252412)
any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.

I have always voted democrat but this time around Trump gets my vote :thumbsup

bronco67 10-28-2016 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 21252403)
When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

another thing these fucktards need to understand is that NOTHING that comes from Alex Jones is either true, nor does it make any sense. Everything that comes from his direciton is false and a lie, because all he does is makes up shit. It's his business model.

Could anyone name one thing Alex Jones has ever said that is true and provable by any tangible fact?

This entire thread and discussion is moot and invalid because of the source.

bronco67 10-28-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 21252508)
All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

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Yes...rallies decide elections. You fucking moron.

onwebcam 10-28-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21254029)
another thing these fucktards need to understand is that NOTHING that comes from Alex Jones is either true, nor does it make any sense. Everything that comes from his direciton is false and a lie, because all he does is makes up shit. It's his business model.

Could anyone name one thing Alex Jones has ever said that is true and provable by any tangible fact?

This entire thread and discussion is moot and invalid because of the source.

The actual source is the ABC poll. I actually meant to link to it like I did the last one but I'm sure you'll ignore it.

C H R I S 10-28-2016 10:10 AM

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

This is how the polls are rigged:

RIGGING THE POLLS for Democrats

Coup 10-28-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21254023)
I have always voted democrat but this time around Trump gets my vote :thumbsup

You've made a wise choice. :thumbsup


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