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directfiesta 11-11-2016 07:01 AM

Trump : are the libbies going to do the same as the tardies ?
 
- Declare that they will do everything to make sure Trump is a one term president ?

- have as policy to do what ever it takes , even detrimental to the country , to make of Trump presidency a failure ?

???

crockett 11-11-2016 07:06 AM

Considering right off the bat he is trying to put a climate change denier as head of EPA.. yes I think his ass will be stonewalled and protests will be worse.

Seriously, why do republicans hate the environment? When you get poisoned water from pollution there is no fixing it. Why are they always so fucking short sighted?


It will be funny to watch the tards crying about the democrats blocking everything.

Joshua G 11-11-2016 08:49 AM

of course the liberals will blindly obstruct.

look. obama did the same thing to the democrat party as W did to the republicans. he radicalized his party. with W, it was the religious nutters & the neocons. with obama, its the PC race/sex card hustlers & neolibs.

& both parties suck the corporate dick.

now that both parties are run by radicals, what else is supposed to happen?

to the extent trump is not beholden to either parties extremist pole (sorry libs, trumps not rallying the KKK, keep dreaming) we can expect trump to be more pragmatic, businesslike, in his leadership.

he could play both sides on each other. it would be beautiful to watch.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 10:56 AM

Trifecta , both houses of congress and the presidency. The GOP has real power for the first time in 8 years. They are already looking at ways to get things done and if the democrats are stupid enough to stand by and act as a blockade, people will notice and they will lose more seats. Things are going to happen fast and Trump doesn't need the democrats, it's better for them to jump on at this point!

kane 11-11-2016 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21292933)
Trifecta , both houses of congress and the presidency. The GOP has real power for the first time in 8 years. They are already looking at ways to get things done and if the democrats are stupid enough to stand by and act as a blockade, people will notice and they will lose more seats. Things are going to happen fast and Trump doesn't need the democrats, it's better for them to jump on at this point!

I'm not so sure about that. When Obama first took office the Republicans did everything they could to obstruct him. They carried out a historic number of filibusters and they were "punished" by the voters by gaining seats in the Senate and retaking control of the House. In the 2012 election, after further filibustering and obstruction they retook the Senate as well.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21293407)
I'm not so sure about that. When Obama first took office the Republicans did everything they could to obstruct him. They carried out a historic number of filibusters and they were "punished" by the voters by gaining seats in the Senate and retaking control of the House. In the 2012 election, after further filibustering and obstruction they retook the Senate as well.

Sure, except the democrats in all their glory changed the rules about filibusters in 2013. Pretty stupid move now that they look at it from the other side of the fence. Soon as they did it, I knew they would regret it, now I'm proven right!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

PR_Glen 11-11-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293428)
Sure, except the democrats in all their glory changed the rules about filibusters in 2013. Pretty stupid move now that they look at it from the other side of the fence. Soon as they did it, I knew they would regret it, now I'm proven right!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

You are forgetting one undeniable fact... there are republicans who got elected in this race that did not support trump. Are THEY going to go blindly along with all his ideas? no fuckin chance..

They will on issues that goes along with their own agendas, but anything too radical will get opposition from both sides. It would only take a couple who oppose. It's a majority but it wont be a cake walk to get things passed.

altmman 11-11-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21292327)
Seriously, why do republicans hate the environment? When you get poisoned water from pollution there is no fixing it. Why are they always so fucking short sighted?

cuz they make money from it.
Its unbelievable. We all have to eat, drink and breathe and Republicans want to poison it to make MORE money.
Like they don't have enough.

I felt 3 earthquakes last year and theres fracking going on near me. Jesus Christ these assholes will destroy the earth for more money.

kane 11-11-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293428)
Sure, except the democrats in all their glory changed the rules about filibusters in 2013. Pretty stupid move now that they look at it from the other side of the fence. Soon as they did it, I knew they would regret it, now I'm proven right!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

The nuclear option is likely to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass, but it can't be used on everything. The democrats don't have to win the fights, they just have to put up a fight. If they do they could potentially invigorate their base and get them to turn out in two years.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21293455)
The nuclear option is likely to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass, but it can't be used on everything. The democrats don't have to win the fights, they just have to put up a fight. If they do they could potentially invigorate their base and get them to turn out in two years.

It's very hard for the democrats to gain in the senate, harder in the house, it's just the demographics of this country. Just more red states than blue.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21293443)
You are forgetting one undeniable fact... there are republicans who got elected in this race that did not support trump. Are THEY going to go blindly along with all his ideas? no fuckin chance..

They will on issues that goes along with their own agendas, but anything too radical will get opposition from both sides. It would only take a couple who oppose. It's a majority but it wont be a cake walk to get things passed.

Trump winning is already changing that, the people have spoken and the direction has already been arranged.

You can spew crap from the liberals on this, but you have one flaw that will keep you from understanding what's going on, you're a liberal and believe what the media has told you. one of the benefits of being a libertarian is that I don't pick sides. I care about the nation first .

People are surprised about what happened, I'm not. I looked at the methodology of the polls and they over sampled with democrats when there are more independents than either party. They also didn't think the Hispanics would vote republican , here's the thing, Hispanics in Florida are not from Mexico, they're from Cuba and pissed at Obama for what he did.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21292555)
of course the liberals will blindly obstruct.

look. obama did the same thing to the democrat party as W did to the republicans. he radicalized his party. with W, it was the religious nutters & the neocons. with obama, its the PC race/sex card hustlers & neolibs.

& both parties suck the corporate dick.

now that both parties are run by radicals, what else is supposed to happen?

to the extent trump is not beholden to either parties extremist pole (sorry libs, trumps not rallying the KKK, keep dreaming) we can expect trump to be more pragmatic, businesslike, in his leadership.

he could play both sides on each other. it would be beautiful to watch.

Trump is not beholding to anyone, that's a beautiful thing!

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 03:12 PM

Kane, one thing I just found out, Both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have pledged they will work with Trump.

Bladewire 11-11-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21293455)
The nuclear option is likely to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass, but it can't be used on everything. The democrats don't have to win the fights, they just have to put up a fight. If they do they could potentially invigorate their base and get them to turn out in two years.

The base is already invigorated, they will be for the next 2 years if Trump keeps on the path he's been on since getting elected. Democrats will take control of the House & Senate by a resounding majority in 2 years.

Bladewire 11-11-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293497)
Trump winning is already changing that, the people have spoken and the direction has already been arranged.

The majority voted for Hillary Clinton.

The majority of voters did not elect Trump president, the 518 people in the electoral college will likely appoint Trump on December 19th when THEY "vote" :2 cents:

altmman 11-11-2016 03:51 PM

It seems to be that democrats can just go take shits out in the hallway and do nothing now.

Do democrats have any power now?

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21293608)
The majority voted for Hillary Clinton.

The majority of voters did not elect Trump president, the 518 people in the electoral college will likely appoint Trump on December 19th when THEY "vote" :2 cents:

Yeah, you hold on to that and a fuzzy unicorn will be on your door step in the morning.

altmman 11-11-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21292321)
- Declare that they will do everything to make sure Trump is a one term president ?

- have as policy to do what ever it takes , even detrimental to the country , to make of Trump presidency a failure ?

Rush Limbaugh did the same thing to Obama the moment he was elected 8 years ago, went on the radio and said he hoped Obama would fail.
So same shit on both sides


Vendzilla 11-11-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by altmman (Post 21293665)
It seems to be that democrats can just go take shits out in the hallway and do nothing now.

Do democrats have any power now?

As of late, they were like herding cats, they don't stick together. The republicans have done far better in those regard.
So to answer your question, not much!

That's why democrats are pledging support to Trump, like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren

crockett 11-11-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293578)
Kane, one thing I just found out, Both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have pledged they will work with Trump.

They said they will work with him "if" he acts reasonable. If he acts like a jack ass then they will fight him.

So far it looks like nothing has changed with him and he will continue to be a jackass.

Bladewire 11-11-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293668)
Yeah, you hold on to that and a fuzzy unicorn will be on your door step in the morning.

You're statement was wrong and being condescending to me doesn't change that.

America spoke and the majority voted for Hillary Clinton, not Trump as you indicated.

kane 11-11-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21293578)
Kane, one thing I just found out, Both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have pledged they will work with Trump.

I imagine that will all depend on what his plans are.

Everyone makes nice right after an election. Let's see it actually happen.

For example, if Trump comes up with a plan to remove and replace Obamacare with something much better or modify Obamacare to make it better, they will likely work with him. If it is simply a vote to repeal it with nothing to replace it with I bet they fight him tooth and nail.

If the Democrats get run over for the next 2 years they brought this on themselves when they started using the nuclear option and reconciliation to get things done after Obama was elected. Now those same things may come back to haunt them. As a whole Democrats are often spineless so it will be interesting to see what they do and how they do it.

bronco67 11-11-2016 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21293443)
You are forgetting one undeniable fact... there are republicans who got elected in this race that did not support trump. Are THEY going to go blindly along with all his ideas? no fuckin chance..

They will on issues that goes along with their own agendas, but anything too radical will get opposition from both sides. It would only take a couple who oppose. It's a majority but it wont be a cake walk to get things passed.

There's a chance they could impeach him and put Pence in his place. I'm no fan of that shitbag Mike Pence, but at least he's not a mindless buffoon. I would be happy with president Mike Pence.

That assclown president elect is an embarrassment to our nation and there's no way he can be the leader of the free world.

bronco67 11-11-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21292933)
Trifecta , both houses of congress and the presidency. The GOP has real power for the first time in 8 years. They are already looking at ways to get things done and if the democrats are stupid enough to stand by and act as a blockade, people will notice and they will lose more seats. Things are going to happen fast and Trump doesn't need the democrats, it's better for them to jump on at this point!

republicans ideas of getting things done:

Make sure they control all the vaginas

Kill clean energy in favor of coal, oil etc. Whatever is making them money at the moment. Who gives a shit about the environment?

Discriminating against blacks, gay, women etc.

Letting Wall Street cowboys run wild by lifting all regulations which have kept them from crashing the economy for the last 8 years.

Pump billions of dollars into a military which is already the best in the world 10 times over.

Ensure that any bubba can buy a gun with the minimum amount of background check. Gun shows on every block.

Any other asshole agendas I left out?

Dvae 11-11-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21293851)
republicans ideas of getting things done:

Make sure they control all the vaginas

Kill clean energy in favor of coal, oil etc. Whatever is making them money at the moment. Who gives a shit about the environment?

Discriminating against blacks, gay, women etc.

Letting Wall Street cowboys run wild by lifting all regulations which have kept them from crashing the economy for the last 8 years.

Pump billions of dollars into a military which is already the best in the world 10 times over.

Ensure that any bubba can buy a gun with the minimum amount of background check. Gun shows on every block.

Any other asshole agendas I left out?

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

bronco67 11-11-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21293908)
Would you like some cheese with that whine?

My grandpa called. He wants his insult back.

Was anything I listed incorrect?

Dvae 11-11-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21294100)
My grandpa called. He wants his insult back.

Was anything I listed incorrect?

See sig!

bronco67 11-11-2016 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21294112)
See sig!

making good points is not trolling. Asking if they like cheese with their whine is.

It's funny you would have something like that in your sig. Are you trying to be the master of all irony?

Dvae 11-11-2016 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21294127)
making good points is not trolling. Asking if they like cheese with their whine is.

It's funny you would have something like that in your sig. Are you trying to be the master of all irony?

Your post made no valid points so no point in discussing it.

Vendzilla 11-11-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21293725)
You're statement was wrong and being condescending to me doesn't change that.

America spoke and the majority voted for Hillary Clinton, not Trump as you indicated.

It was condescending because that's not the way our president is elected

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21293818)
I imagine that will all depend on what his plans are.

Everyone makes nice right after an election. Let's see it actually happen.

For example, if Trump comes up with a plan to remove and replace Obamacare with something much better or modify Obamacare to make it better, they will likely work with him. If it is simply a vote to repeal it with nothing to replace it with I bet they fight him tooth and nail.

If the Democrats get run over for the next 2 years they brought this on themselves when they started using the nuclear option and reconciliation to get things done after Obama was elected. Now those same things may come back to haunt them. As a whole Democrats are often spineless so it will be interesting to see what they do and how they do it.

IO think at the beginning for speeds sake, he will probably just get things done, after that, it would be prudent to bring in the democrats on big votes

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21293842)
There's a chance they could impeach him and put Pence in his place. I'm no fan of that shitbag Mike Pence, but at least he's not a mindless buffoon. I would be happy with president Mike Pence.

That assclown president elect is an embarrassment to our nation and there's no way he can be the leader of the free world.

I think the embarrassment is the person that lost the election after spending almost 2 billion dollars and will now either get a pardon from the out going president or face more congressional hearings and possibly prison time. Drain the Swamp

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21293851)
republicans ideas of getting things done:

Make sure they control all the vaginas,
no just asking women to be responsible for themselves

Kill clean energy in favor of coal, oil etc. Whatever is making them money at the moment. Who gives a shit about the environment?
Yeah, clean energy did so well when we thru million at it with Obama, you know we have more coal than any place on earth? More Natural gas too!

Discriminating against blacks, gay, women etc.

Did you know that some of Trumps top people are women? One is a black woman? Of course not, you're an idiot!

Letting Wall Street cowboys run wild by lifting all regulations which have kept them from crashing the economy for the last 8 years.

As opposed to the regulations that kept the banks from loaning money for small businesses?

Pump billions of dollars into a military which is already the best in the world 10 times over.

So you would have that change?

Ensure that any bubba can buy a gun with the minimum amount of background check. Gun shows on every block.

Please point that out to me, that's a fucking lie you moron
Any other asshole agendas I left out?
No I think you have covered all the stupid reasons that the Democrats are no longer in power, Good Job!


kane 11-11-2016 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21294283)


IO think at the beginning for speeds sake, he will probably just get things done, after that, it would be prudent to bring in the democrats on big votes

Very possible. If he has to face angry Democrats on everything he is never going to get anything done. To me the wise thing would to be to throw them a bone or two to keep them happy and working with him.

Bladewire 11-11-2016 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 21294283)
It was condescending because that's not the way our president is elected

You must be drunk.

I never said the president is elected by majority vote. I said the majority of Americans ( over 400,000 more ) voted for Hillary Clinton. Also I've posted correcting foreigners many times the past few days that we are a Republic.

If it makes you feel superior then keep thinking whatever makes you happy but j ust remember it's I'd based on what I actually said.

charlie g 11-11-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21293584)
The base is already invigorated, they will be for the next 2 years if Trump keeps on the path he's been on since getting elected. Democrats will take control of the House & Senate by a resounding majority in 2 years.

lol, "Trump keeps on the path he's been on since getting elected'. YOU MEAN BREATHING? He has not done anything since getting elected so the only way he can win, in your opinion, is to do what exactly?

1215 11-11-2016 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 21294376)
lol, "Trump keeps on the path he's been on since getting elected'. YOU MEAN BREATHING? He has not done anything since getting elected so the only way he can win, in your opinion, is to do what exactly?

He's not technically POTUS until January.

He can't really do anything until then, other than set things up and...well...have a chat about things.

Bladewire 11-11-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1215 (Post 21294463)
He's not technically POTUS until January.

He can't really do anything until then, other than set things up and...well...have a chat about things.

Correct, and blame the media saying they setup all those people protesting against him, say he's open to ammending Obama care not repealing it, he's not on the right track to making anyone happy at the moment, at least not his supporters who wanted Obama care repealled or protesters or the media.

Vendzilla 11-12-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21294301)
You must be drunk.

I never said the president is elected by majority vote. I said the majority of Americans ( over 400,000 more ) voted for Hillary Clinton. Also I've posted correcting foreigners many times the past few days that we are a Republic.

If it makes you feel superior then keep thinking whatever makes you happy but j ust remember it's I'd based on what I actually said.

And I'm telling you that's not how it's done. If you knew anything about the forefathers of this country, you would know why.

For one thing, you're under the impression this is a democracy, it isn't, we are a Constitutional Republic. The mob doesn't rule, popular vote doesn't mean a fucking thing. All the states have a vote, we have 51 states vote including DC and they all carry different weight. This is done for a reason. To bring up a popular vote for the country is being a asshole!

Vendzilla 11-12-2016 10:22 AM

It's the people that called the right a basket of deplorables, racist, sexist and everything else under the sun that are responsible for Trump getting elected.
The liberals of this country have lost the ability to debate, to have a conversation about this, instead they call the right names and that pissed off the right after several years of it and now we have Trump. Politically correctness just took a big hit and the liberals don't know how to deal with it!

mineistaken 11-12-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21293851)
Discriminating against blacks, gay, women etc.

While gay marriage is a thing that can be called discrimination, how the fuck do they discriminate against blacks and women?

On the other side, democrats are actually discriminate based on race (aff. action type of deals).

altmman 11-12-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21295144)
While gay marriage is a thing that can be called discrimination, how the fuck do they discriminate against blacks and women?

vowing to de-fund Planned Parenthood and putting regulations on a womans right to choose.

Blacks, I dont know, but Im guessing that they feel disenfranchised.

Seeing a wealthy white man who acts like a dick and all his rich white friends who act like dicks have power will make minorities feel disenfranchised.
Having a woman up there would give some diversity and good feeling of advancement and inclusion.

mineistaken 11-12-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by altmman (Post 21295267)
Having a woman up there would give some diversity and good feeling of advancement and inclusion.

I am sure Trump picks his people by qualifications, not by gender/race like Crooked Hilary.


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