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This is for anybody who's thinking about selling. Only two criteria :)
#1 You have to be doing at least $20,000 a month (no max).
#2 You have to be growing or flat. Not declining.

That's it. If you are interested or know someone who may be email me at askshap at gmail.com

Let's Do This! :winkwink:

Have a great Day Everyone! :thumbsup

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Good luck with this. :thumbsup

well yes, good luck with that :thumbsup

Good luck!

Shap, you're a good guy. You won't find this person. If they were flat or growing they would be well ahead of the game and comfortable, no way would they sell.

This isn't an old thread bump is it?

then have luck man! :thumbsup

You may very well be right. Hopefully there is someone out there who wants to take some money off the table or just needs a break from adult :)

Honestly... I could easily pull in that amount of billing. I need MIDS with different EIN numbers, 30K to the affiliate upfront, and rework the affiliate tracking platform.

I'm not sure if you remember or not but I was the guy who said I have a vision for 1 million monthly billing in mainstream, that's my focus now. What I said in paragraph #1 is easily achievable, but it's not something I would write home about.

so true, the only time they would sell is if they found a sucker to overpay what the business is really worth... :thumbsup

There are people wanting to make a life change all the time.

Not all decisions are just financial and logical. There are emotional decisions, decisions you make because of your health, etc.

Also, if someone started a mainstream business that's much more successful than their adult one, it could make sense to sell, to focus their time and energy on the more lucrative project. It's not necessarily a sucker that sells a profitable business.

Would you sell a side project that's making $20 per month but needs a lot of attention, to focus on your main one?

$20000/month may be a lot to you and me, but to some companies or people, it may be just a small side project. It's all relative.

Hopefully Shap gets lucky :)

how many times earnings? :winkwink:

Suppose someone is making 20k monthly profit without much work (established, semi-autopilot setup).

What are you willing to pay for this business, roughly? Just to get an idea of what we are talking about here.

Good offer *pornageddon* may be on the table for US people selling porn.

"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets." Baron Rothchild

Might get lucky :winkwink:

Thanks :thumbsup

Why wouldn't they? Not for 6x the monthly income obviously, but well oiled businesses are sold all the time. Everything has it's price :)

Know anybody investing in indie feature films?

Not sure if you caught my second post but I was already offered a business that would bill way over 20k/month. The offer came direct from the affiliate. It requires affiliate platform programming, 30k to the affiliate up front, and MIDS. At least 10.

I don't have the 50k cash to invest but it's for the grabbing. I am investing my time in 4 sites I've setup, and now doing the grunt work to get the accounts I need on them.

But that was an inadvertent offer to shap... I guess. He is more then welcome to contact me via pm to find out more, my history, my contacts, what this would make monthly, and my terms to see it through.

- affiliate platform = NATS @ $500 / per month
- 30k to the affiliate up front = what for? traffic?
- At least 10 MIDS to bill $20k = I do four times as much on a single MID. Why do you need 10? Unless it's something shady and you intend to burn through them.

Nats doesn't work for the application. You can't truly host your own join form with nats to collect necessary info and send to maxmind.

I don't want to put more then 25k/month on any mid. Period. 1% or 2% chargeback and 100 chargebacks become a real problem if you put too much on any 1 mid in adult.

10 mids might be an overstretch at first. But getting 100 daily joins you want at least 4 mids. Scale up, more mids.

Unless you are looking to straight up collect CC info, you can do pretty much anything on NATS.

Yes, you can host your own join forms. That's the whole point.

They offer you a whitelabel join form that you can design hosted on their server. I went into all this, over the past 2 years, and it is not a truly hosted join form on your own server.

You can collect credit card information by using insecure java or whatever, but you can't simply pass the information to maxmind to get your prescrub results.

I don't collect credit card information. I collect a portion of it to avoid pci requirements, plus I have no use for it. I just want as much prescrub as possible prior to sending to gateway.

Nats is not $500 if you do alot of billing. I just checked their pricing again and $500 isn't a package right now.

I said $500 based on your 20k/month quote. For 100 daily joins you're looking at $850 per month.

I don't know where you get your "whitelable join form" info from. With our own MID and NATS you can host your own join pages on your own server. If you want max pre-scrub (which you shouldn't) then let your gateway (Netbilling) handle it or just your acquirer bank (they do it anyway). You're making it sound more complicated that it is.

What is it you want to sell anyway? Regular porn memberships?

I'm actually exhausted with everything I've gone through the past 2 years... there is a very big pink elephant in the room with their join forms in that you can't send it to prescrub maxmind service prior to sending to gateway. Also prepaid cards... netbillibg and all the others... they allow prepaid or allow on single sale or don't allow... where is the ability to allow prepaid on full subscription join but not trial?

Anyway... the reason I'm not fully pursuing adult gigs is because I have become numb to it. I'm doing my mainstream idea now and I only hope it takes off.

I do believe you are billing 1mil per year based on your screen shot from PM thread. Why don't you pm me and take this project off my hands while I will set it all up and collect a percent, each, and every month.

Shap: If you are willing to pay several multiples of annual earnings (ie. at least 4), then contact me. [email protected]

Sent you a PM.

Responded and let's talk tomorrow.

If you need a bunch of mids, then it's xsells. you don't need to buy a business to do xsells, you just need to know who the seller is and his email address.

I believe with a free trial you can pre-auth for the full member price.

Minor thread jack alert!

Got a declining business? Hit me up and let's see if we can work something out :thumbsup

/ thread jack!

Minor thread jack response alert!

I have 4 Aboriginal themed sites; hairy bush, prego cream pie, lactating lesbians & Dads with twins.

Everything was going great but all my Africani customers have started failed rebilling and more French customers than usual are charging back. Any way you can help me break into the Asian market with this? :thumbsup

/ thread jack response!

there are porn sites that make 20K a month? in this pirate saturated world?

why is there so much crying here about no money in porn?

:1orglaugh

I suppose if Shap came up with a figure that reflected the value of the company they might sell. What are the odds of that? :Oh crap

Nope... and noper

Out of curiosity, are you interested in any particular niche or?

Niche doesn't matter. What's more important is whether the business model is something I am good at. I can't run pump and dump cross sale hell type sites. But quality program or site in any niche that I can smash :)

I'll go 50/50 on those with you? Then we smash them together? :thumbsup

Yes there are. I know some sites ranking in top 10 for porn-related keyword are making 50K+ monthly :)

I have bitcoin related websites.

Are you looking to re-enter the adult space?
Good seeing you around these parts again :)
WG

Turning over isn't making. Most of those sites spend a lot of money to retain and convert members.

Somebody may want to retire...:2 cents:

A simple formula is usually used: 10 x annual earnings... My maths says $ 2,400,000...:2 cents: and then you negotiate from there..:thumbsup

If it is a commercial vehicle and has something attached ( cast, grandma's black AmEx) I may be interested. But not in a DOP who had a coffee with DeNiro once... Also, if it is "indie" and the budget is over 500 K and, schedule longer then 18 days, script longer then 90 pages and I ( my GF, my auntie...etc.) is attached as a director then :321GFY

As I have said above, 10x is the norm and then negotiate in either direction. 4x is quite low UNLESS you have an expensive content... Then you may be closer to reality.:2 cents:

Only if you were their accountant you could make a claim like that...

I nave never cried :thumbsup

4x annual earnings = 4x12 = 48 times monthly revenue.

Maybe you can get it in mainstream biz but in adult 6-12x monthly revenue is a standard.

You are correct Paul. Having 45 K a montly "nut" and billing 50 K is no key to success, but with monthly "nut" of 5K and billing 20 K is better...:2 cents:

Still OK 20 K/ month x 12 x 6 close to 1.6 mil still nothing to frown upon at :thumbsup

In a few years even I would consider it to compliment my ( upcoming) old age pension :)