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brassmonkey 12-02-2016 09:57 AM

could a recount change hillary/trump US election results?
 
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Defeated Green Party candidate Jill Stein is asking for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania where Mr Trump won narrow victories.

The next US President wrote on Twitter that the "badly defeated and demoralized" Democrats were now joining the Green Party campaign for recounts.

He said: "The Democrats, when they incorrectly thought they were going to win, asked that the election night tabulation be accepted. Not so anymore!"

Will the recounts change anything?

If Mr Trump's victories in all three states are overturned then the election would tip in Mrs Clinton's favour.

This is because the three states offered a total of 46 votes in the all-important Electoral College.

Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

But it is extremely unlikely that the recounts will uncover enough evidence of electoral fraud to overturn the results.

For Ms Clinton to win all three states, it thought that she would require a swing of more than 100,000 votes across the three states.

Mr Trump won Wisconsin by just over 22,500 votes, Michigan by about 10,700 votes and Pennsylvania by slightly more than 68,000.

Even Ms Stein and Mrs Clinton's campaign have admitted that the recounts are unlikely to chance the outcome of the US election 2016.

The Green Party candidate said: "These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the US election system is."

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Barry-xlovecam 12-02-2016 10:02 AM

This is political PSYOPS.

Make the other side defend -- looking for any real logic is pointless.

Bladewire 12-02-2016 10:11 AM

It's getting under Trumps skin, that's why I donated and all I expected, mission accomplished! Ride it out as long as possible and keep DontheCon scared

wehateporn 12-02-2016 10:19 AM

Probably someone has tampered with the votes

2MuchMark 12-02-2016 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349327)
It's getting under Trumps skin, that's why I donated and all I expected, mission accomplished! Ride it out as long as possible and keep DontheCon scared

I donated too. Shhh!

:)

Barry-xlovecam 12-02-2016 10:22 AM

Jill Stein for Troll of the Year

Bump the Trump 2016

Bladewire 12-02-2016 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21349345)
I donated too. Shhh!

:)

Thank you for your patriotism :thumbsup

I always wondered how much of that money was donated from outside the U.S. Half? More? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 12-02-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21349345)
I donated too. Shhh!

:)

Pretty sure it's illegal for a US candidate to accept donations from foreign sources. Wait, didn't Barry donate as well? Seems like someone needs to investigate Jill Steins donation drive. Foreign entities are interfering with the elections it appears after all

Bladewire 12-02-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21349456)
Pretty sure it's illegal for a US candidate to accept donations from foreign sources. Wait, didn't Barry donate as well? Seems like someone needs to investigate Jill Steins donation drive. Foreign entities are interfering with the elections it appears after all

Yeah the donation isn't tax deductable.

I'll let you research the rest and report back.

It seems I always post facts/education here and the other person goes silent with no rebutle, until the next thread where they post not knowing all facts, then I post facts & knowledge, then silence... Over and over again

Dvae 12-02-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21349276)
https://i.imgur.com/7Rdor55.jpg

Defeated Green Party candidate Jill Stein is asking for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania where Mr Trump won narrow victories.

The next US President wrote on Twitter that the "badly defeated and demoralized" Democrats were now joining the Green Party campaign for recounts.

He said: "The Democrats, when they incorrectly thought they were going to win, asked that the election night tabulation be accepted. Not so anymore!"

Will the recounts change anything?

If Mr Trump's victories in all three states are overturned then the election would tip in Mrs Clinton's favour.

This is because the three states offered a total of 46 votes in the all-important Electoral College.

Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

But it is extremely unlikely that the recounts will uncover enough evidence of electoral fraud to overturn the results.

For Ms Clinton to win all three states, it thought that she would require a swing of more than 100,000 votes across the three states.

Mr Trump won Wisconsin by just over 22,500 votes, Michigan by about 10,700 votes and Pennsylvania by slightly more than 68,000.

Even Ms Stein and Mrs Clinton's campaign have admitted that the recounts are unlikely to chance the outcome of the US election 2016.

The Green Party candidate said: "These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the US election system is."

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I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

onwebcam 12-02-2016 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349534)
Yeah the donation isn't tax deductable.

I'll let you research the rest and report back.

It seems I always post facts/education here and the other person goes silent with no rebutle, until the next thread where they post not knowing all facts, then I post facts & knowledge, then silence... Over and over again

No candidate is allowed to accept foreign donations. What facts are you referring to except mine?


"political candidates are not allowed to receive campaign donations from foreign nationals. Foreign nationals include: foreign governments, political parties, corporations, associations, partnerships, persons with foreign citizenship, and non-permanent resident immigrants. Permanent residents, or "green card" holders, may donate to political candidates.

Foreign nationals are allowed to undertake some political actions in the U.S., as long as those actions are not "connected with any election to political office at the federal, state, or local levels."

Overseas Fundraising Legal?

Bladewire 12-02-2016 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349564)
I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

Logic & math aren't your strong points.

TCLGirls 12-02-2016 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21349276)
Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349564)
I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21349591)
No candidate is allowed to accept foreign donations. What facts are you referring to except mine?


"political candidates are not allowed to receive campaign donations from foreign nationals. Foreign nationals include: foreign governments, political parties, corporations, associations, partnerships, persons with foreign citizenship, and non-permanent resident immigrants. Permanent residents, or "green card" holders, may donate to political candidates.

Foreign nationals are allowed to undertake some political actions in the U.S., as long as those actions are not "connected with any election to political office at the federal, state, or local levels."

Overseas Fundraising Legal?

Crowd sourced grassroots non tax deductable donations for a vote recount movement are not tax deductible donations for a candidate running for office. Different accounts. Different goals.

Capiche?

brassmonkey 12-02-2016 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21349621)
370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

Election Results 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us...nsylvania.html

Dvae 12-02-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349603)
Logic & math aren't your strong points.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21349621)
370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

onwebcam 12-02-2016 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349630)
Crowd sourced grassroots non tax deductable donations for a vote recount movement are not tax deductible donations for a candidate running for office. Different accounts. Different goals.

Capiche?

Do you have proof she used separate accounts? Also, she is a candidate demanding a recount. Not a "movement" She used the crowd sourcing idea to raise funds for what she is doing as a candidate. From the looks of it it was all done through her campaign site/billing. It's going to get looked into. I'm already in the process of making sure of that.

TCLGirls 12-02-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349669)
Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

Except you used the 370 figure as a basis for your rant. Now you are backtracking.

Dvae 12-02-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21349690)
Except you used the 370 figure as a basis for your rant. Now you are backtracking.

you really are a special kind of dumb!

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349708)
I really am a special kind of dumb!

:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349669)
Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

Provide your link to the 370 number so we know you didn't make it up/lie.

baddog 12-02-2016 12:19 PM

yeah, like they made an error of 10k, 22k and 68k

Some of you are so delusional, besides being liars.

Dvae 12-02-2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349711)
:thumbsup



Provide your link to the 370 number so we know you didn't make it up/lie.

the OP, Mr. Copy and Paste used it in his post plus he provided a link to it.

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21349681)
Do you have proof she used separate accounts? Also, she is a candidate demanding a recount. Not a "movement" She used the crowd sourcing idea to raise funds for what she is doing as a candidate. From the looks of it it was all done through her campaign site/billing. It's going to get looked into. I'm already in the process of making sure of that.

You do that stud :thumbsup

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349732)
the OP, Mr. Copy and Paste used it in his post plus he provided a link to it.

Ok the actual real numbers are currently 306/232. WI 10 PA 20 MI 16

Trump is in serious danger of losing when fraud is found in PA MI & WI and the flip to Hillary Clinton Madame President Elect , that's why Trump is fighting a recount so hard.

Dvae 12-02-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349765)
Ok the actual real numbers are currently 306/232

I knew that before my first post.

Instead of accusing me of lying or making it up why didn't you just read the article?

..and just for the record hillary will never president.

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349780)
I knew that before my first post.

No you didnt. If you did, then you just admitted to posting a lie saying Trump had 370 and no way of it being overturned if Clinton won MI PA & WI. Lie


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349780)
Instead of accusing me of lying or making it up why didn't you just read the article

Because you make stuff up here all the time and when you're called on it you go silent forever, but post in other threads.

TCLGirls 12-02-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349780)
I knew that before my first post.

No you didn't. Because if you really knew Trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that Trump might have 370.

ErectMedia 12-02-2016 12:53 PM

http://www.erectmedia.com/gfy/trumptastic.jpg

Trump Nation Bitches Suck It Up :thumbsup

Bladewire 12-02-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tclgirls (Post 21349822)
no you didn't. Because if you really knew trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that trump might have 370.

^^ qft ^^

Dvae 12-02-2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21349819)
No you didnt. If you did, then you just admitted to posting a lie saying Trump had 370 and no way of it being overturned if Clinton won MI PA & WI. Lie

Because you make stuff up here all the time and when you're called on it you go silent forever, but post in other threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21349822)
No you didn't. Because if you really knew Trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that Trump might have 370.

I said IF Trump has 370 which the article used and I knew it was incorrect, which was the point of my post.
370 - 46 he would still win my a mile.

Quote:

I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Barry-xlovecam 12-02-2016 01:03 PM



Jill Stein for Troll of the Year :thumbsup

Bump the Trump 2016

Quote:

LANSING, Mich. ? The Latest on presidential recount efforts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania (all times local):

12:40 p.m.

Michigan?s elections board has deadlocked on President-elect Donald Trump?s request to prevent a recount, which means it will start next week unless the courts intervene.
http://i.faketrumptweet.com/1ghiukhr4k_ri23w2.png

The Trump has spoken :1orglaugh

TCLGirls 12-02-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349885)
I said IF Trump has 370 which the article used and I knew it was incorrect, which was the point of my post.
370 - 46 he would still win my a mile.

So you based your argument on the 370 figure that you knew was incorrect....which necessarily invalidates your initial argument. Genius.

Coup 12-03-2016 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21349717)
yeah, like they made an error of 10k, 22k and 68k

Some of you are so delusional, besides being liars.

https://i.imgur.com/XHQXITW.jpg

beavr 12-03-2016 01:30 PM

Not at all.

Bladewire 12-03-2016 01:48 PM

^^ fake nick ^^

2MuchMark 12-03-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21349894)

http://i.faketrumptweet.com/1ghiukhr4k_ri23w2.png

The Trump has spoken :1orglaugh


Fake tweet.

Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.

brassmonkey 12-03-2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21351520)
Fake tweet.

Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.

hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :thumbsup:thumbsup

crockett 12-03-2016 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 21349564)
I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

Trump lost by nearly 3 million votes at this point. "If" it turns out there was "miss counts" or fraud in these 3 states his loss will be even greater. You start getting up to 4 million or 5 and time to question the EC's reliability.

This would then require the EC to consider not voting for him given that the "majority" of voters did not vote for him and that "majority" number is growing daily as all votes are counted. Added to this the only reason Trump won many of the "battle ground" states is because they have been gerrymandered to fuck and back.

This is why the "popular vote" no longer matches the EC vote, because many areas of Florida for instance should of been Democrat, but have been rigged until they turn red by drawing lots of fantastic lines on the maps to make certain area part of other voting districts..

Basically Republican have cheated the system in states they control like FL for example. In 4 votes I voted in 4 different districts while living at the same address.. Why? Because that area was "always" blue and the Republican run shit hole of a state kept redrawing the lines until it finally turned red they election.

ErectMedia 12-03-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21351520)
Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.

http://i.faketrumptweet.com/1ghn0roe3p_e25l7b.png


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