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Lewis11 12-18-2016 08:26 PM

Russel Westbrook 2016-2017 NBA Mvp?
 
MVP??https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j...82203671195488

mineistaken 12-18-2016 08:30 PM

russel douchebrook

Joshua G 12-18-2016 08:30 PM

i can think of janitors more valuable than russell westbrook. what good is a ball hog in a team game?

:2 cents:

Lewis11 12-18-2016 08:37 PM

But its what he does for his team that makes him mvp candidate. 22 assist?? not really a ball hog?

Lewis11 12-18-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21389932)
russel douchebrook

Then who is your pic for the mvp?

Joshua G 12-18-2016 08:39 PM

its his job to make assists. thats what a guard is supposed to do. what other player on OKC shoots at westbrooks volume.

Lewis11 12-18-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21389947)
its his job to make assists. thats what a guard is supposed to do. what other player on OKC shoots at westbrooks volume.

They still have Oladipo and payne for shooters. None of them can shoot at Westbrooks level but he's an allstar for a reason.

mineistaken 12-18-2016 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewis11 (Post 21389944)
Then who is your pic for the mvp?

Me disliking him as a person does not equate me claiming he is not mvp.

Lewis11 12-18-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21389971)
Me disliking him as a person does not equate me claiming he is not mvp.

Do you dislike him as a player or as a person??

Joshua G 12-18-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewis11 (Post 21389965)
They still have Oladipo and payne for shooters. None of them can shoot at Westbrooks level but he's an allstar for a reason.

he's talent. are the thunder the best team in the league? if they were, you can say he is the MVP.

IMO a player cannot be MVP just because he is the best player on a team, & carries them. He has to be the most impactful player on the best team. When does MVP go to the 7th best team in the western conference?

:2 cents:

mineistaken 12-18-2016 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewis11 (Post 21389992)
Do you dislike him as a player or as a person??

Haven't I specifically answered that in the post you quoted? :error:helpme (Not to mention it was kind of obvious in my first post as well).

Lewis11 12-18-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21390016)
he's talent. are the thunder the best team in the league? if they were, you can say he is the MVP.

IMO a player cannot be MVP just because he is the best player on a team, & carries them. He has to be the most impactful player on the best team. When does MVP go to the 7th best team in the western conference?

:2 cents:

Well I mean that's true. But there have been MVP's whose teams weren't number one in their conference.

mineistaken 12-18-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21390016)
he's talent. are the thunder the best team in the league? if they were, you can say he is the MVP.

IMO a player cannot be MVP just because he is the best player on a team, & carries them. He has to be the most impactful player on the best team. When does MVP go to the 7th best team in the western conference?

:2 cents:

On that I will disagree. Either best player, or MVP could be from 7th team, because team results depends on all players. If you put best player in crappy team he is unlikely to win, because 2nd best, 3d bet players can have better partners and thus carry their teams higher.
So in my opinion winning team is not a requirement when deciding MVP.

Joshua G 12-18-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewis11 (Post 21390046)
Well I mean that's true. But there have been MVP's whose teams weren't number one in their conference.

but they are always the top 2 or 3 teams in the league.

there are lots of talents that never get MVP, just because the rest of their team is crap. when westbrook is so good he can carry crap to the very top, like lebron has many times now...

hard to say MVP is anyone but curry or lebron until a 3rd team enters the discussion as best in the NBA. that would make kawhi leonard more of an MVP to me than westbrook.

:2 cents:

Lewis11 12-18-2016 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=Joshua G;21390070]but they are always the top 2 or 3 teams in the league.

there are lots of talents that never get MVP, just because the rest of their team is crap. when westbrook is so good he can carry crap to the very top, like lebron has many times now...

hard to say MVP is anyone but curry or lebron until a 3rd team enters the discussion as best in the NBA. that would make kawhi leonard more of an MVP to me than westbrook.

:2 cents:[/Q
True, I can see Kawhi Leonard being up there for this MVP run.

I see your point, this is why James Harden won't win the MVP as well..

Joshua G 12-18-2016 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21390061)
On that I will disagree. Either best player, or MVP could be from 7th team, because team results depends on all players. If you put best player in crappy team he is unlikely to win, because 2nd best, 3d bet players can have better partners and thus carry their teams higher.
So in my opinion winning team is not a requirement when deciding MVP.

that sounds sensible. but when you look at what lebron did in cleveland (not last 2 years but the first 7 years) when he was literally the only talent on the team & they were in the NBA finals. its possible to be a 1 man team & get to the top. it happened.

how can anyone be the most valuable in a league when 9 teams did better. 9 teams best players carried their teams farther into the standings. it makes no sense to me that the 10th best team by record has the most valuable player in the league.

:2 cents:

Daniel BongaCash 12-19-2016 03:07 AM

No matter how many triple - doubles you made, if your team is not in playoff, there is no talk!!!

Lewis11 12-19-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21390109)
that sounds sensible. but when you look at what lebron did in cleveland (not last 2 years but the first 7 years) when he was literally the only talent on the team & they were in the NBA finals. its possible to be a 1 man team & get to the top. it happened.

how can anyone be the most valuable in a league when 9 teams did better. 9 teams best players carried their teams farther into the standings. it makes no sense to me that the 10th best team by record has the most valuable player in the league.

:2 cents:

True, but who do you have taking the MVP this season?

Lewis11 12-19-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel BongaCash (Post 21390391)
No matter how many triple - doubles you made, if your team is not in playoff, there is no talk!!!

His team will make playoffs but won't make it far... That's the only problem.

Austin - MrSkinCash 12-19-2016 09:54 AM

He is the clear front runner but as noted by others above he is doing everything for his team. If he can sustain this he will win but that also means his team will continue to win which may not happen.

I think James Harden could steal it from him as the Rockits are having another incredible year. If the Clippers continue their impressive play Chris Paul could also get into the mix.

Under the radar player to watch is Giannis Antetokounmpo. The Bucks are trash but he is having an unreal year and is still very young.

Lewis11 12-19-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin - MrSkinCash (Post 21391174)
He is the clear front runner but as noted by others above he is doing everything for his team. If he can sustain this he will win but that also means his team will continue to win which may not happen.

I think James Harden could steal it from him as the Rockits are having another incredible year. If the Clippers continue their impressive play Chris Paul could also get into the mix.

Under the radar player to watch is Giannis Antetokounmpo. The Bucks are trash but he is having an unreal year and is still very young.

But like stated from other people, the Bucks aren't having a good season soo. I don't think that he will be a contestant.,

But the rockets are having a killer season and the fact that they just broke the record for having the most 3 pointers as a team in a game is helping his chances as well..

SekobA 12-19-2016 12:55 PM

it wont be .. wait to see it

Lewis11 12-19-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SekobA (Post 21391651)
it wont be .. wait to see it

Why won't it?? Who do you have pegged to win?


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