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Happy Nuke Year!!

Same to you last year on earth!

actually its reasonable to speculate that a loose nuke will hit DC or NYC during a trump administration. Obamas iran deal was the domino that set off a chain of events....just like when clinton let osama prepare for 911 attack that occurred on bush watch.

what im saying is, the liberals will blame trump for obamas nuke.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21417193)

Well, I don't discriminate, I hate everyone. I blame everyone.
And I am curious if you are actually suggesting that a verifiable agreement not to make weapons grade nuclear material is better than not having any agreement at all ?

I fail to see the logic in that but perhaps you can explain that to me without just pointing a finger at someone else.

I will say that all of those that spend more time blaming others have created the mess we are in by not addressing what we need in the present and making a case for the future, not the past.
That is what I think that agreement did since the coalition for sanctions was falling apart from the commercial (big money) interest to do business with them again. Soon, there would have been no sanctions and no agreement.

Focus you energy where it can make a difference, in the present, otherwise, look in the mirror the next time you want to point a finger

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 21417232)

verifiable? i guess you read a different agreement than I did. the one i read gave Iran all the power to choose the inspectors that verify. wow what a fair arbitrator of the agreement.

yeah i would say no agreement is better than a fraud agreement that Iran has already broken. But hopefully they will only make a dirty bomb with the material, not the full monty.

but you trust people that chant "death to america" every friday prayer group with nuclear materials. how liberal of you.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21417298)

Did you actually read it or just repeating those select parts picked for propaganda.
Yes they get to pick which inspectors "from the group at IAEA", not just anyone they want.
Read it again for yourself this time.
This has only been made such a big deal by Israel who continuously picks fights with it's neighbor's because we always come to their defense. And so they get away with pretty much everything.
If Israel wants to dominate the region, let them pay for it in the cost of their blood and money, not ours. The only environment that will let them continue in their expansion is one of conflict. They do not seek peace or they would have had it a long time ago.

And with Trumps Jewish son-in-law that is a very strict promoter of Israel, I don't see the future any brighter going forward.
I have become very weary of the loss of blood and treasure in commercial interest and those of other nations.
"If" it really is America first, we would withdraw from the middle east and let them settle it for themselves. Bloody as it may be.

There will never be peace unless those that benefit from it have a vested interest in WAR.

And so the name calling begins. 'Liberal ?"... It is the definition of Conservative to not take action where it is not needed. I am very Conservative.