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Thomas007 01-06-2017 01:34 PM

What is the going selling rates for sites in a shrinking market?
 
Hi everyone and happy new year.
Long time no see.

I have spend 99% of my time the last 5 years on our mainstream project.

We are considering selling the remaining adult actives we have.
Main ones are adultreviews.com and pornreviews.com

Before I can valuate them I would like your help on what the going rates are currently.
Earlier it was common to get 18-24 times the gross monthly revenue for a TGP or MGP.
And more for review sites.

What are your view on what the seling price are for these types of sites:

Cam sites
Paysites (membership)
Reviewsites
TGPs
Tubes

Please fill in with those you have an idea about.

I have also been told that generic .com domains are worth less now that so many new TLDs has been given free.
Do you have an opnion on that?

Thank you for the help.

TFCash 01-06-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21431833)
Before I can valuate them I would like your help on what the going rates are currently.
Earlier it was common to get 18-24 times the gross monthly revenue for a TGP or MGP.
And more for review sites.

What are your view on what the seling price are for these types of sites:

Cam sites
Paysites (membership)
Reviewsites
TGPs
Tubes

Please fill in with those you have an idea about.

I have also been told that generic .com domains are worth less now that so many new TLDs has been given free.
Do you have an opnion on that?

Thank you for the help.

Paysites are more in the 6 to 12 months of the checks you are getting, I would think that a review site would be in that same range since it's mostly promoting rev-share programs so would have the same ups and downs as a paysite.

The TGP & Tubes that I've seen sold in the last 12 months are more like 4 to 8 months revenue.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21431833)
I have also been told that generic .com domains are worth less now that so many new TLDs has been given free.
Do you have an opnion on that?
Thank you for the help.

I don't see a lot of the newer TLD's bring big money on the auction sites, but I think that domains are a lot less than what they were 5 years ago, so if you had something you were holding onto, you may just want to keep holding on to it to see if prices come back up!

:2 cents:
Tim

onwebcam 01-06-2017 03:17 PM

The two mentioned have great domains to assist with the sale but as far as rev alone is concerned your expectations may be high. I guess it depends on how you or they look at the deal at the end of the day.

bns666 01-06-2017 03:18 PM

pornreviews.com and adultreviews.com are killer domains and you could get quite good money just for them without sites, with sites surely more.

TFCash 01-06-2017 04:41 PM

You should probably get with someone over at rabbits, they took over tbp last year, they might be looking to buy up some more review sites :)

TheDynasty 01-06-2017 08:31 PM

Those are really nice! Good Luck!

Thomas007 01-07-2017 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFCash (Post 21432175)
You should probably get with someone over at rabbits, they took over tbp last year, they might be looking to buy up some more review sites :)

We have done that :-)
I have an offer from Mantas which we are considering.
Now I'm trying to figure out what the market price is.

j3rkules 01-07-2017 03:17 AM

Did you make a thread in the sell and buy section for your domains? Good luck with your sale.

Thomas007 01-07-2017 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 21432874)
Did you make a thread in the sell and buy section for your domains? Good luck with your sale.

Not yet.
I would like to have some background info before I do that.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-07-2017 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21432859)
We have done that :-)
I have an offer from Mantas which we are considering.
Now I'm trying to figure out what the market price is.

Was just about to mention Rabbits / Mantas may be in the market for this.

Hope all is well and wishing the best with the mainstream stuff - long time no see and hard to believe we've originally met 10 years ago already (AMS 06)!

Thomas007 01-07-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 21432052)
pornreviews.com and adultreviews.com are killer domains and you could get quite good money just for them without sites, with sites surely more.

Below or higher than 50k?

Thomas007 01-07-2017 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 21433252)
Was just about to mention Rabbits / Mantas may be in the market for this.

Hope all is well and wishing the best with the mainstream stuff - long time no see and hard to believe we've originally met 10 years ago already (AMS 06)!

Yeah it has been a long time. And time flies fast.
Everything is good here. Both family and the new mainstream project we managed to make a success.
We are about to start the international expansion with it.

How is it in your end?

CarlosTheGaucho 01-07-2017 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21433333)
Yeah it has been a long time. And time flies fast.
Everything is good here. Both family and the new mainstream project we managed to make a success.
We are about to start the international expansion with it.

How is it in your end?

Sounds great. Feels like ages indeed, been through several projects and doing quite well these days, even became a family man two years ago.

Would be glad to hear more about the mainstream thing.

ErectMedia 01-07-2017 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21432859)
We have done that :-)
I have an offer from Mantas which we are considering.
Now I'm trying to figure out what the market price is.

Sold 1 smaller yet profitable site years ago to Mantas, solid dude. :thumbsup

JFK 01-07-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21432859)
We have done that :-)
I have an offer from Mantas which we are considering.
Now I'm trying to figure out what the market price is.

:thumbsup Good Luck:thumbsup

onwebcam 01-07-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21432859)
We have done that :-)
I have an offer from Mantas which we are considering.
Now I'm trying to figure out what the market price is.

Probably your best end-user unless there's someone around that wants to take them on. If you want to see what the market bears why not put it to auction, market the sale and let it bring what it brings? I did that a few years back. I just set up a auction script on another domain and ran my own little auction with a modest start price and let the chips fall where they may. Closed the deal via escrow.com afterwards and saved thousands in brokerage/auction fees.

Thomas007 01-07-2017 12:26 PM

Thanks for the answers so far.
Anymore opinions on the general pricelevels for the different types of sites?

NatalieK 01-07-2017 12:27 PM

what site or at least type are you looking to sell?

Thomas007 01-07-2017 12:52 PM

We have two review sites to sell.
I am courious to know the levels for the other types to be able to compare.
And to get some updated on how the market is.

Thomas007 01-07-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 21433381)
Sounds great. Feels like ages indeed, been through several projects and doing quite well these days, even became a family man two years ago.

Would be glad to hear more about the mainstream thing.

We have created a B2B event registration system.
The english brand will be EasySignup.

The concept has three important cornerstones:
- recurring revenue from business customers
- selfexposing, when custumors use the platform, they advertise for it
- scaleability, it can scale and we do not sell manpower hours

Our biggest competitor is Microsoft Excel which are an inefficient tool for administrating events.
It is going quite well in Denmark :-)

arock10 01-08-2017 08:25 AM

I'd say around 12 months net plus a little premium for the domains. Also depends on the revenue trends and traffic trends, anything reliant on google is pretty risky even more so then usual

maximoi 01-08-2017 09:15 AM

Hey Thomas, as a buyer, I'd be interested to know how much profit they bring in before any other details. Then it's about the site health, the history, and various other factors but in general I'd say the best of them upto 12 months profit for a solid site, otherwise the range is 6-12x. Now that Trump is bringing in that anti porn guy there is that risk for adult webmasters too so that needs to be considered into the equation. You will only get 18-24 times in mainstream not adult. Email me the revenue perhaps we can do a deal.

Thomas007 01-08-2017 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximoi (Post 21435469)
Hey Thomas, as a buyer, I'd be interested to know how much profit they bring in before any other details. Then it's about the site health, the history, and various other factors but in general I'd say the best of them upto 12 months profit for a solid site, otherwise the range is 6-12x. Now that Trump is bringing in that anti porn guy there is that risk for adult webmasters too so that needs to be considered into the equation. You will only get 18-24 times in mainstream not adult. Email me the revenue perhaps we can do a deal.

I have sent you an email with some info.

maximoi 01-08-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21435544)
I have sent you an email with some info.

Replied back but you have spamarrest so PM'd you instead.

fuzebox 01-08-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas007 (Post 21433810)
Our biggest competitor is Microsoft Excel which are an inefficient tool for administrating events.

Not EventBrite? :(

Thomas007 01-08-2017 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 21435718)
Not EventBrite? :(

Nope, the secretaries are using Excel and don't know they have a problem.

There is plenty of room in the market for both EventBrite and EasySignup.
We are aiming more B2B than them.

Paul Markham 01-09-2017 02:17 AM

IOt's all about what they will earn in the next 6-12 months and nothing to do with what they earned in the past.

Markul 01-09-2017 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21436867)
IOt's all about what they will earn in the next 6-12 months and nothing to do with what they earned in the past.


Does your head hurt when you post?

GLMBV 01-09-2017 03:39 AM

I might be interested in acquiring these domains. Anymore info would be appreciated.
samir at goodlifemediabv.com

Thomas007 01-09-2017 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLMBV (Post 21436960)
I might be interested in acquiring these domains. Anymore info would be appreciated.
samir at goodlifemediabv.com

I have sent you and email.

Others which would like more info with buying in mind are welcome to email me at thomas at adultreviews.com

Thomas007 01-19-2017 12:21 PM

The sites are now officially for sale.
See this thread
https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/12...views-com.html


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