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$5 submissions 01-07-2017 04:23 PM

Are adblockers killing your profits?
 
Here's an interesting technique from Forbes

http://i.imgur.com/ZesXetA.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 01-07-2017 04:31 PM

Begging will not work. I just sign-in OAuth with a special Google email for these sites -- they can have the emails of all the other sites that do this and spam each other.

bns666 01-07-2017 04:34 PM

even the big ones are experiencing problems with adblockers...

$5 submissions 01-07-2017 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21434140)
Begging will not work.

How can you be sure? For brand fans, the begging approach seems to be a great way of reminding the reader about the brand value they came for in the first place.

Barry-xlovecam 01-07-2017 05:10 PM

As long as they accept your spam email address I can deal with it. Otherwise, I will move on information is always available. Some, sites show ads that are not trackers to users of adblockers.

Probably if they (these websites) wanted $10 a year for the content I might pay for it (from some I like). That's more than they probably make off my ad impressions.

just a punk 01-07-2017 05:16 PM

The adblockers don't work with my CyberSEO plugin. The ads built into videos can not be blocked by browsers. Oops :pimp

klinton 01-08-2017 01:13 AM

what ads in videos you mean ? like watermarks ? these are with sponsors domains, so...
or you mean text descriptions for videos linked to sponsor ?
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21434293)
The adblockers don't work with my CyberSEO plugin. The ads built into videos can not be blocked by browsers. Oops :pimp


rowan 01-08-2017 01:27 AM

IMHO, refusing to show content until you unblock ads is barely a step above "unblockable" popups. Webmasters becoming more and more desperate for revenue piss off surfers by doing this sort of shit; surfers then find ways to bypass this, and we're back to square one. It's an arms race to the bottom.

Odysseus 01-08-2017 01:54 AM

I setup on some of my "free" sites Ad Block detector. It shows a message that says: if you disable AD Block, you will see all conten of this site for free, otherwise ... something like "go and fuck yourself!".
It's hard to say, increased profits or not, but at least did not fall.. + Extra motivation for surfers.

Ferus 01-08-2017 01:56 AM

Fuck banners. Focus on getting prepaid product placements like some of us have done the last 10 years. Banners should never be your primary income. Adapt or die

rowan 01-08-2017 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus (Post 21434926)
I setup on some of my "free" sites Ad Block detector. It shows a message that says: if you disable AD Block, you will see all conten of this site for free, otherwise ... something like "go and fuck yourself!".
It's hard to say, increased profits or not, but at least did not fall.. + Extra motivation for surfers.

Consider that for branded sites there may be a long term negative effect.

For example, when Facebook offers me 3 "related links", I usually skip any links to forbes.com, because I know it's probably not going to work.

Paul Markham 01-08-2017 02:27 AM

Ad Blockers are used by people who don't want to see ads. So how great are the ads you have that will make them click and buy?

Even selling clicks the advertiser need to make some sales or he will cancel.

j3rkules 01-08-2017 02:56 AM

There are other, easier ways to bypass adblocker. I doubt this one works very well.

marlboroack 01-08-2017 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 21434980)
There are other, easier ways to bypass adblocker. I doubt this one works very well.

Can you change your avatar pre

just a punk 01-08-2017 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21434899)
what ads in videos you mean ? like watermarks ? these are with sponsors domains, so...
or you mean text descriptions for videos linked to sponsor ?

E.g.: KVS Player Pro – CyberSEO - scroll it down, there is a demo. Note the pre-rolls and on pause ads in video. Also note the "Visit IGN.com!" link in the right bottom corner. Actually the whole player window can be used as a huge banner - click anywhere and you go to a sponsor site.

A video player window is the best place to be used for ads. For example, I can play the same videos as ign.com (put any video source there), but with my own ads. E.g. every video about a new computer game will send a visitor right to my amazon account where he can instantly buy it. The same way works if you sell toys, electronics, t-shirts or even cars, houses and whole islands ;)

rowan 01-08-2017 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 21434980)
There are other, easier ways to bypass adblocker. I doubt this one works very well.

I think this is more about trying to educate people about why adblockers are bad, mmkay.

klinton 01-08-2017 05:57 AM

cool, will take a look into it :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21435064)
E.g.: KVS Player Pro ? CyberSEO - scroll it down, there is a demo. Note the pre-rolls and on pause ads in video. Also note the "Visit IGN.com!" link in the right bottom corner. Actually the whole player window can be used as a huge banner - click anywhere and you go to a sponsor site.

A video player window is the best place to be used for ads. For example, I can play the same videos as ign.com (put any video source there), but with my own ads. E.g. every video about a new computer game will send a visitor right to my amazon account where he can instantly buy it. The same way works if you sell toys, electronics, t-shirts or even cars, houses and whole islands ;)


Google Expert 01-08-2017 07:51 AM

Fuck Forbes.

Whenever their article comes up in search i just use google cached copy to read it, LMAO

Suckers.

Barry-xlovecam 01-08-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21435064)
E.g.: ...
A video player window is the best place to be used for ads. For example, I can play the same videos as ign.com (put any video source there), but with my own ads. E.g. every video about a new computer game will send a visitor right to my amazon account where he can instantly buy it. The same way works if you sell toys, electronics, t-shirts or even cars, houses and whole islands ;)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Put a REAL network ad on your demo ..

https://s24.postimg.org/q6me15nyt/block_cyberseo.png

Tubevideditor 01-08-2017 11:03 AM

On Mobile especially (mainly mainstream) the ads are so out of hand, you can see why ad blockers are used so much now.
Some long pages have just a small paragraph of text for the actual content and the rest is dominated by ads or being fooled into where to click for the next page.
The page jumps around while the ads are loaded which leads to mis-tappping the wrong link and so many mainstream sites look identical in layout with all the click-bait shit.
It reminds me of the early circle jerk adult sites from years ago and its a lottery where you'll end up depending on what you may mis-click/tap on.
I never browse now without ad block or use an adblock browser on mobile devices.
The amount of ads are ruining the net.

just a punk 01-08-2017 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21435457)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Put a REAL network ad on your demo ..

https://s24.postimg.org/q6me15nyt/block_cyberseo.png

What for? :pimp

rowan 01-08-2017 08:17 PM

wired.com has a variation - you can start reading the article, but after a short period (or perhaps it's triggered by scrolling a certain amount) a beg screen covers the content. You can reload and scroll a bit further, but the more times you do this, the more quickly the begs seem to trigger. Eventually I could only read a few sentences each time. I'm not really sure whether making someone reload a page 10 or 15 times to read the article is going to encourage them to whitelist their site... or just piss them off.

(I'm not even sure why I get the begs - I don't have an ad blocker installed...)

rowan 01-08-2017 08:22 PM

I wonder how long it's going to be before someone comes up with an app or plugin that does the reverse - instead of blocking ads, it pulls content? Even sites that I would have previously considered reputable are now running the same bullshit clickbaity ads that everyone else is. A short article will have significantly more screen space devoted to ads, so why not just use an app/plugin to display the text only?

PornDiscounts-V 01-08-2017 08:34 PM

Ads suck

Paul Markham 01-09-2017 01:44 AM

Ads are killing the porn industry. So do I worry about blocking them? Not a bit.

Once everyone blocks ads, we can get back to making money.

Ferus 01-09-2017 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21436792)
Ads are killing the porn industry. So do I worry about blocking them? Not a bit.

Once everyone blocks ads, we can get back to making money.

Yeah. You and Donny Long will make billions....

Paul Markham 01-09-2017 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 21437068)
Yeah. You and Donny Long will make billions....

I already made my money.

Would less free porn help or hinder your ability to make money?

aezis582 01-09-2017 05:55 PM

I used a pop up plug in for wordpress that used to generate quite a decent amount of money but there have been some changes to android phones that block this sort of pop up and now it hardly makes any money. I still earn from the other ads thou. Wish I could find some sort of unblockable pop up plug in that looked decent on both mobile and desktop.

CaptainHowdy 01-09-2017 06:23 PM

Never, ever, beg.

King Mark 01-09-2017 08:19 PM

I've blocked adblockers. You ain't getting in for totally free. Don't care if they go to another site, next site can have the leaches. Want to see my content without paying? Then let me sell you. If not, fuck off.

Paul Markham 01-10-2017 03:00 AM

Ads are fueling Google, FB, Twitter, Snapchat and 10,000s of other sites. Maybe there's a reason they make money and some here struggle. Could it be so few of your visitors care about what you're selling?

shiraz9944 01-10-2017 01:03 PM

if you don't get charged for the impression what does it matter? You lose a bit of volume but there is plenty still out there. Or am I mistaken and we DO get charged that impression which would be bullshit from the ad networks.

thommy 01-10-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21436792)
Ads are killing the porn industry. So do I worry about blocking them? Not a bit.

Once everyone blocks ads, we can get back to making money.

the pron industry always lived from ads. even in the times ehen there was no free content.
how else could you get the people to the paysites if not with advertisement?

and last not least ads on free sites are maybe one of the last reasons why people should chose a membership in a ad-free-membersite.

you are thinking maybe a bit too much in the good old times where porn was still a product. today porn is just the magnet to get the masses and sell them whatever.

btw: did you know that in ALL eras of the net, the users worldwide spended 0,25% of their whole budget in porn?
and you know how much they spend today for porn/dating etc? STILL 0,25% !!!
astonishing, not ?

greetings
thommy


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