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adultcalltakers 01-14-2017 11:17 AM

Thought Id run this idea past you lot first
 
So we're trying to come up with new and different ways to get traffic and customers to an escort agency and Ive got an idea but its one of those thats either pure genius or totally fucking dumb shit.

Thinking of having a page of affiliates, the likes of some of the sites from here, gambling etc that take payments for new signups & rebills etc and run a competition where at the end of the year one client gets all the money that these links have created in the form of free bookings.

Its dogshit isnt it?

Bladewire 01-14-2017 11:21 AM

Why not monthly? Or weekly? A year seems a bit long to hold a customer's attention span.

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adultcalltakers 01-14-2017 12:01 PM

will they make enough money to make it worthwhile? considering a booking is £110 for an hour?

i see what youre saying about keeping people interested, the idea behind the year was to mke it a bit more of a prize, many agencis offer a free appointment competition here and there but the possibility of offering 10 or 20 would be quite a prize.

EddyTheDog 01-14-2017 12:09 PM

Make sure the progs will take incentivised traffic - You could lose a lot of cash if they decide not to pay you...

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adultcalltakers 01-14-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21451801)
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adultcalltakers 01-14-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21451795)
Make sure the progs will take incentivised traffic - You could lose a lot of cash if they decide not to pay you...

Sorry, being very new to all this side of things, are you saying that some may not accept us or pay out if we are offering people an incentive to join them?

Best-In-BC 01-14-2017 12:29 PM

Too much attention to try and sell escorts, your pushing lines you might not wanna cross if your country feels different than you do about it.

Barry-xlovecam 01-14-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by adultcalltakers (Post 21451819)
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EddyTheDog 01-14-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adultcalltakers (Post 21451834)
Sorry, being very new to all this side of things, are you saying that some may not accept us or pay out if we are offering people an incentive to join them?

Exactly - Read T&c's carefully - Also ask an affiliate rep before you start pushing traffic...

Barry-xlovecam 01-14-2017 12:56 PM

In all seriousness;

If you own an escort agency how would you track and credit the referrals? You would need an elaborate back-end. I know -- we have over 12,000 affiliate referrers *registered and track a few thousand referrers every month -- some with conversions that are successful that we pay out to. The next problem is if you have global referrers (affiliates) you need to set up international payments -- it's not like you can use paypal for long :helpme So, there is a lot of setting up to do and front end cost to an idea like this.

Just tracking a few hundred referral sources and determining which referrals generate revenue is a complex matter.

Paying a flat rate per referral wither or not that lead generates revenue leaves you wide open to internet fraud -- very common when buying leads.

EddyTheDog 01-14-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21451909)
In all seriousness;

If you own an escort agency how would you track and credit the referrals? You would need an elaborate back-end. I know -- we have over 12,000 affiliate referrers *registered and track a few thousand referrers every month -- some with conversions that are successful that we pay out to. The next problem is if you have global referrers (affiliates) you need to set up international payments -- it's not like you can use paypal for long :helpme So, there is a lot of setting up to do and front end cost to an idea like this.

Just tracking a few hundred referral sources and determining which referrals generate revenue is a complex matter.

Paying a flat rate per referral wither or not that lead generates revenue leaves you wide open to internet fraud -- very common when buying leads.

That was going to be my next point - It's technically not as easy you would think...

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adultcalltakers 01-14-2017 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21451909)
In all seriousness;

If you own an escort agency how would you track and credit the referrals? You would need an elaborate back-end. I know -- we have over 12,000 affiliate referrers *registered and track a few thousand referrers every month -- some with conversions that are successful that we pay out to. The next problem is if you have global referrers (affiliates) you need to set up international payments -- it's not like you can use paypal for long :helpme So, there is a lot of setting up to do and front end cost to an idea like this.

Just tracking a few hundred referral sources and determining which referrals generate revenue is a complex matter.

Paying a flat rate per referral wither or not that lead generates revenue leaves you wide open to internet fraud -- very common when buying leads.

See, this is the reason I ran it past you lot first, Ive not got a clue on these things and didnt think it would be at all complicated although Im not sure that your post is seeing it the same way I was.

I just assumed it was simple in that we sign up the site to a dozen or so other sites and would be paid £x every time someone signed up/ deposited/ bought stuff etc via our link then we'd collect those payments, bank them and at the end of the year do a draw of the customers we'd had to decide the winner.

It seemed so simple in my head!

kane 01-14-2017 05:57 PM

If I am understanding correctly here is your plan.

Your site will have a page where you advertise other sites/products/services/etc. You will be an affiliate of all these sites. As people click these links and spend money you will earn money from them. At the end of the year, you will have a competition where one person will win the equivalent of the amount earned from these links in the form of credit with the escort agency. Am I correct?

If I am correct, I have some questions.

1. What kind of competition would this be? What will the clients have to do in order to collect?

2. How will you get people to compete in this competition? A lot of these people may not wish to be contacted months after using your agency and asked if they want to be in the competition.

3. If I am wrong and you are talking about webmasters promoting your sites, I don't think it would work. Over the years a lot of affiliate programs have offered different prizes and incentive and what most of them have found out is that most webmasters would rather just have cash.

To me the whole thing sounds like a confusing mess and I'm not so sure it would actually help you get or keep customers.

Barry-xlovecam 01-14-2017 06:14 PM

Are you proposing to be the affiliate(referrer) or the sponsor(escort service). You say escort ''agency''. Agency is the business running the whorehouse in my mindset -- the agent of the ''escorts''.

EddyTheDog 01-14-2017 06:22 PM

It's an idea - It's just too complicated to implement - Your time is better spent elsewhere - Sorry...

What about the person with the most paid bookings gets a freebie - It should be easy to track.....

Use the data you already have...

Grapesoda 01-14-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21451699)
Why not monthly? Or weekly? A year seems a bit long to hold a customer's attention span.

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adultcalltakers 01-15-2017 01:12 AM

Kane, yes you are spot on with your understanding.

We pass other sites business, they pass us a cut of the sale, we hold those cuts until a set date then whatever the total is, its given as a form of credit note to one customer to be used as and when they please.

So say, it made a total of £1200 in the year then they have a credit with us of £1200, they can spend this as 20 x £60 half hour bookings, 11 x £110 hours, one massive 5 girl 2 hour blowout or any combination they want it would be upto them.

As for who wins, its just a basic thought at the minute so weve not fine tuned it but every booking is logged by us, we could just give one entry per booking or one per half hour (ie book an hour and you get 2 entries). At the end of the year they all go in a pot and 1 is drawn out. That part shouldnt be complicated (and to be honest I didnt think the 1st part would be).

Eddythedog: Its a thought, but one many agencies regularly do, we were looking for something bigger and more unique (plus this "potentially" big prize wouldnt actually cost us anything, in fact we'd still get our fee of the bookings the winner then made! :thumbsup)

kane 01-15-2017 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by adultcalltakers (Post 21452815)
Kane, yes you are spot on with your understanding.

We pass other sites business, they pass us a cut of the sale, we hold those cuts until a set date then whatever the total is, its given as a form of credit note to one customer to be used as and when they please.

So say, it made a total of £1200 in the year then they have a credit with us of £1200, they can spend this as 20 x £60 half hour bookings, 11 x £110 hours, one massive 5 girl 2 hour blowout or any combination they want it would be upto them.

As for who wins, its just a basic thought at the minute so weve not fine tuned it but every booking is logged by us, we could just give one entry per booking or one per half hour (ie book an hour and you get 2 entries). At the end of the year they all go in a pot and 1 is drawn out. That part shouldnt be complicated (and to be honest I didnt think the 1st part would be).

Eddythedog: Its a thought, but one many agencies regularly do, we were looking for something bigger and more unique (plus this "potentially" big prize wouldnt actually cost us anything, in fact we'd still get our fee of the bookings the winner then made! :thumbsup)

In theory, that wouldn't be too hard to do. You just have to keep track of how much money that page makes then figure out how to decide who wins. You could like ask customers if they wanted to be entered. Those would rather not, can just opt out. The thing is, I don't know how much new or repeat business that will get you unless you gave some kind of incentive like every time they visit they get a ticket in the drawing so a guy that comes in 1-2 times a month will have more tickets than someone who came in once during the year.

Paul Markham 01-15-2017 05:05 AM

Won't work unless the site converts better than other sites. Affiliates look at dollars per clicks, not prizes. the best you can always give a few prizes to.

The tracking problem some raise is a situation that's resolved by an experienced programmer.

There are easier ways to get traffic.


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