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Anybody has just sat down and started working on making xxx sites? How long did it take you to start making money? I am talking about the current times, I guess it could have been different 3 or 5 years ago or more? What is the profitability and competition like as compared to the current times and where it is going, anybody knows? I've been doing it for over a year and I am planning to work for 3 full years, before I can see any positive signs / results. If I am not successful after full 5 years of working, I guess I would start working on something else, as the 5 years is enough.

Another thing that I am wondering about, is there any chance to rank above the tubes for some good keywords and with what amount of work? I am not 100% sure if these rankings are legitimate. If all of their sites come up on the top this is millions of Dollars of income, and they may be sharing some money behind the "curtains", I am not sure.

I am talking on pushing a certain set of keywords lets say, the same, over a longer period of time (3-5 years, I am not even expecting to make a living off that after that time, but some regular income is what I expect), on multiple sites... The same thing over and over, good sites, keep pushing...

Anybody has done that already? Anybody past these 3-5 years and did it work?

Thanks.

You will know in a year after you learn what not to do ...

I will add that I have like 6+ years of experience in working on xxx sites. I've been actually moving on to programming now (lamp, JavaScript, xxx niche). Making sites seems to be easy, and anybody could do it from my perspective, but at the same time this 6 years of experience is not a wasted time and it could be good for what I am planning to do. Something like KVS, Wordpress, Ahrefs, Semrush, and pushing a certain niche...

I am also wondering about the backlinks part. I am planning to finish working on what I am planning to do - three big sites (bigger than the biggest competition on the Net) - and then possibly work on some smaller sites for link exchanges, so I could offer something to the other people in exchange for backlinks to my sites. I guess I would like to get the links naturally also, and possibly push it with some paid links too. I mean, exchanging links (getting to know the people out there, with the sites that I would be interested in), buying links, making new sites. I am not sure how this will work "mathematically / algorithmically", what would be the best way to go as far as getting links - #1 always try to get natural links, keep that in mind, #2 link exchanges (new sites that I would be making for this are not very good, but it would still be a link, maybe on something like seo hosting but this costs more), #3 paying for links, maybe only for a certain amount of time, not indefinitely... People may not tell me, but how to build up that traffic to the sites, the traffic that you see on other sites, like 150,000 hits a day or so, I've been below 1,000 per day on all my sites combined and I have never been above that level yet. Like I said, I've started more than a year ago so I am not expecting this yet, but what could be the bath of getting from that 1,000 hits per day to 5k, 20k, 50k and maybe more... Exchanges? Paid Links? I will be researching this with Ahrefs (or something similar) and Semrush too. I guess getting to know the people is the key too, I will be doing that later on.

I see what I do more like a 10 years work, working in the background and trying to be moving up with the amount of traffic to the sites. It does not seem to be an overnight thing at this point. I am seeing it more like a longer-term thing, 10 or 15 years, and it could be very good after that amount of time spent on that...

But I may be wrong too, I may waste 10 years of working on this, I am not sure.

Where is that more traffic in this, I am wondering:

a) time (referral, seo, direct)
b) size of the sites (seo)
c) social media marketing (social media traffic)

There is direct, search, referral and social media traffic, so I guess make more sites as the amount of the sites counts, make good sites, so you will get more direct traffic over time, pay for links to get more links but if I pay for them I spend money and I want to make money overall, so I guess make good deals. How much time something like this can take, before I can see any profit? 3-5 years? Or maybe there is no money in this all together, or close to zero at this point for a one person "company" like mine (just one person, I am not hiring anybody to do any work or anything like that). Can I be pushing this for 10 years and get nowhere, or get to $100 or $150 per month. This honestly would seem a very good thing at this point, where I am at.

There is all these 150,000 hits per day sites in SimilarWeb.com, but when I work on it, it seems to be a different thing. Every 1,000 seems to be a big achievement, where I am at. So what is the best path to this traffic? Keep pushing I guess, make good decisions, it wont happen overnight...

Looking for a winning combination is the hard part ...

Chasing SEO Algorithms is going to have a short self life.

1. Avoiding products that have been commodized to free
2. Offering a unique product value
3. If you are an affiliate it is harder as you do not control the content

make a list;


______win______|_____lose_____

Scale out your winners and dump the losing ideas.
** after re-reading > sort out what monetizes that traffic best.
that traffic is worth, or SHOULD be worth, $100 to $300 a day ... 150K hits a day to your websites? or all sites for that keyword?

if you don't know at this point brush up your resume and get to steppin

After like four years of doing this I figure out that I wont be reading all these seo articles anymore. They have a product to sell, so they write about it in order to promote their product and bring more sales. You are that person who tries to read every single article about what they have to say, but their only purpose is to bring more sales, and not to teach people what to do (in general) or anything like that. I am past all that, so I kind of feel like I have these knowledge so I don't need it anymore - I mean, what you can read in the books, and I have also tested it all in practice. Like I was saying, I've been doing it for 6+ years, and basically, 7 days a week (breaks when needed), all day, every day... I am trying to get somewhere in this, but like I said, I've been really working on it for a little over a year...

I also realize then it will be easier over time, if I get to the Level 1 from the Level 0, it should be easier to get to the Level 2 from there, and even easier to the Level 3 (something like $500 monthly income, lets say). The more you have, the easier it is to create further traffic from this. Starting from 0 is the hardest part, so for this reason I was asking if there are actually any people who are past these 3 or 5 years, and successfully making semi-good income from the sites? Like I said, I am more in the mindset of doing programming (actually starting writing things some time from now) but I plan to continue working on the sites.

lamp programming job, remotely could be an option too. Is it easy to find something like this in the xxx niche these days? It would not have to be adult if I would be looking but I am thinking about writing things like:

- "The Porn Dude" directory script, sell it for like $15 per copy or so
- Link exchange script (lamp, one script, multiple domains, something good and useful, something that I would be initially using on my sites)
- (maybe xxx pic site script)
- tube script (something good)
- pinterest clone script

All good quality, based on what can be used on xxx sites (but not necessarily, like youtube clone or pinterest clone), something that I could use on my sites instead of the existing scripts, and also sell it to people. This is only theoretically at this point, I realize that the above takes a lot of work, and further learning in my case, although I know quite a lot about it, at this point (I was learning these things like 5 years ago).

Quality product and quality traffic
If you have 500 hits a day yielding 10 sales

I started as a cam affiliate just over a year ago and I can tell you it is extremely competitive out there.

10% of people doing it make some money, xxx niche (including the cams) and the rest is close to $0. This is how I imagine it. And being in the top 10% takes time, and it may be quite a lot of time for one person, these days.

If you have some knowledge and experience in this field, you can still make good money. Obviously go with the niche site.

Just started about 3 new blogs Straight blog / Cam Blog / Gay Cams Blog i update posts every day on each blog scheduling new posts for different days traffic is pretty good right now going to accept link trades and sell blog posts soon will post more in future

I think you will be better off working on finding a dev job or marketing gigs than starting a xxx site and crossing your fingers. My income has been cut drastically from 5 years ago and theres not a god damn thing I can do about it. So I'm retraining now.

I'm sure there are people making great money in porn but a vast majority aren't.
You'll get a handful of people here talking about how great they're doing, then see them arguing about Donald Trump all day and not working, so take their "success" with a grain of salt.

At this point its a safer bet to work on other peoples projects and get paid, than to start your own and have a small chance to ever get paid.

You need to work like a business these days. You will not out rank tubes for major keywords. Better to do smaller niches.

The rule of thumb is the top 20% make 80% of the money.
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The traffic is out there as there is and will be people looking at the sites, but the competition is bigger I think, as related to what you have written above. 5 years ago there would be 5,000 (lets say) people workin on xxx sites and now we have like 80,000 or more and the money is harder to get. I still want to work on the site, but like I was saying, I see it more like a longer term thing... I mean, if I would have 10 people working for me it would be a shorter term, but for one person this may take up to 10 years or more, to make like $100+ per day from this, I think. There is also the tubes who always rank on the top, or most of the time (not really always as far as what I am working on). I am not sure if they will go down like 5 years from now for whatever reason, probably not, so it may not be even possible to get to the top for the good keywords. But like I was saying the demand is there and there will be and probably bigger than it is now. "Patience is a virtue" could possibly apply to here. I may waste some time too, I am not sure. Anyway, anything else business wise is as hard or even harder than this (open a restaurant, open a retail shop, hard to make money too, survive as a business, so this is a normal thing).

It takes time to get to the top, or several people working on something instead of just one, lets say (like 2 people, 5 years and so on). This is not something that will be good overnight, and like I said, any type of business is hard.

These days you won't find a lot of competition in numbers of affiliates, you will find it in consolidated affiliates who are funded like Walmart and dominate things instead of just dabbling in them.

So, where before you might have found 25 to 100 webmasters feeding at a source you will now find four or five companies dominating that source leaving no inroads for newcomers.

Patience is a motherfucker when it comes to business... Once you think you're on the right track, everything has allready changed behind your back...

That's why I always say to go niche -> micro-niche when promoting paysites, and with affiliate programs that are less known and smaller (assuming they'll pay and play by the rules..)

I giggle when I hear regular affiliates talking about things like "Hey, what are your Reality Kings sales like this month?"....

Yeah, agreed. :)

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I suggest you start with a niche site to see how it works before building a huge authority site.
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Good luck with your journey ;)

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