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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-18-2017 04:59 PM

What an AMAZING speech Trump just gave
 
Wow he keeps getting better! :thumbsup

Bladewire 02-18-2017 05:13 PM

Congrats to getting on stage :thumbsup




mineistaken 02-18-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21556045)
Congrats to getting on stage :thumbsup




Charismatic people's president :thumbsup

If not for disgusting false narrative pushing media agenda he would be the most lovable president of recent times. :2 cents:

timlover 02-18-2017 06:02 PM

Having a circle jerk on a Saturday night in Florida isn't going to make the problems in the White House go away. Or his russian ties for that matter. The same shit show will be waiting for him Monday morning when he takes his lazy ass back to work. You know you suck balls when a disgraced General that you spent the past 2 years praising doesn't even want to take you up on your offer to get back into the game as the head of the NSC.

mineistaken 02-18-2017 06:16 PM

How is Trump lazy? I read that he is pretty much a workaholic.

bronco67 02-18-2017 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21556045)
Congrats to getting on stage :thumbsup




Delusional, gullible fucktard that guy is. And that's not an insult. That's just what he is.

beerptrol 02-18-2017 06:34 PM

He needs to stoke his ego and keep the sheeple happy

Joshua G 02-18-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21556093)
Charismatic people's president :thumbsup

If not for disgusting false narrative pushing media agenda he would be the most lovable president of recent times. :2 cents:

he will be that lovable president for his supporters!

as for the dumb libs, they will squirm & whine & cry & offer no better solutions other than more race & sex whining. the liberal media & hollywood will ensure libs keep losing power in 18, for sure.

win-win.

:thumbsup

Bladewire 02-18-2017 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21556207)
Delusional, gullible fucktard that guy is. And that's not an insult. That's just what he is.

Yeah they interviewed him after on CNN and he has a 6 foot cutout of Trump in his living room and he prays to it everyday "asking God to protect Trump" the look on the blonde news anchors face was priceless. I can't find a clip yet but sure it will be on youtube soon :1orglaugh He has the classic Trump zombie glazed eyes look.

DraX 02-18-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21556165)
How is Trump lazy? I read that he is pretty much a workaholic.

There's a first time for everything even in libland :thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-18-2017 06:58 PM

According to libs Trump is dumb and lazy and incompetent but is also worse than Hitler!

beerptrol 02-18-2017 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21556252)
According to libs Trump is dumb and lazy and incompetent but is also worse than Hitler!

Describes you to a tee

dillfly2000 02-18-2017 07:20 PM

I see no difference between repubs and libs, same scary mentalities on both sides. The idea of whether you're only right or only left is a pretty dangerous mindset.

RedFred 02-18-2017 08:01 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4_p15XUkAAyUIL.jpg

timlover 02-18-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21556165)
How is Trump lazy? I read that he is pretty much a workaholic.

Spending the last 3 weekends in Florida at his golf resort hiding out while his administration is in fucking shambles would be the first clue.

dillfly2000 02-18-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21556324)

I think I'm at my beer limit, I tried clicking the X.

Robbie 02-18-2017 09:31 PM

Wow, the President gives a speech to the American people.
Actually goes out there and does it.

And the reaction on GFY is that he is running from his "work" in Washington D.C.???

The guy has done more in 4 weeks than any President in my lifetime (whether you agree with his policies or not)

And by the way...ALL Presidents give speeches around the country. They just don't draw thousands of people like Trump does.

Here are a list of speeches that Pres. Obama gave during his first term around the country...didn't hear any of you being derogatory towards him when he did it (or Bush, or Clinton...or every President in history):
President Obama's First-Term Speeches

Bladewire 02-18-2017 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21556399)
Wow, the President gives a speech to the American people.
Actually goes out there and does it.

And the reaction on GFY is that he is running from his "work" in Washington D.C.???

The guy has done more in 4 weeks than any President in my lifetime (whether you agree with his policies or not)

And by the way...ALL Presidents give speeches around the country. They just don't draw thousands of people like Trump does.

Here are a list of speeches that Pres. Obama gave during his first term around the country...didn't hear any of you being derogatory towards him when he did it (or Bush, or Clinton...or every President in history):
President Obama's First-Term Speeches

Honest question: would you lick Trumps balls and deep into his taint to save America, no BS honest answer.

directfiesta 02-18-2017 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21556324)

Biggly chances that this guy does a mass massacre :2 cents:

Bladewire 02-19-2017 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21556324)

Says it all

That guy is JohnnyClips / JoshuaG / JohnnyNight / John1975

Fucking crazed snowsheep

Notice how morbidly obese 71 year old Trump is compared to an average human male body :2 cents:

Paul Markham 02-19-2017 01:40 AM

He's saying what most Americans want to see happen.

Getting rid of illegal migrants, stop Muslims entering the US, stop companies shipping jobs out of the country. Clinton said the opposite. She wanted an open door policy on migration including Muslims, more unfair trade deal.

Whether his policies are PC or not doesn't matter in a democracy. The Will of the People wins.

Bladewire 02-19-2017 02:06 AM


Yanks_Todd 02-19-2017 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21556399)
Wow, the President gives a speech to the American people.
Actually goes out there and does it.

And the reaction on GFY is that he is running from his "work" in Washington D.C.???

The guy has done more in 4 weeks than any President in my lifetime (whether you agree with his policies or not)

And by the way...ALL Presidents give speeches around the country. They just don't draw thousands of people like Trump does.

Here are a list of speeches that Pres. Obama gave during his first term around the country...didn't hear any of you being derogatory towards him when he did it (or Bush, or Clinton...or every President in history):
President Obama's First-Term Speeches

Wow. I am so blown away by people fantasies about this man. This is simply not reality dude. Wow.

adultcalltakers 02-19-2017 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21556018)
Wow he keeps getting better! :thumbsup

to be fair, its the only direction he could move in.

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2017 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21556540)
stop companies shipping jobs out of the country. .

the new term for it is "paul markhaming" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JohnnyNight 02-19-2017 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21556516)
Says it all

That guy is JohnnyClips / JoshuaG / JohnnyNight / John1975

Fucking crazed snowsheep

Notice how morbidly obese 71 year old Trump is compared to an average human male body :2 cents:

I guess some people read me wrong...

I support Trumpy when he's right and thoroughly dislike the CNN'S and MSNBC's totally insane coverage that tries to portray him as a racist and crazy by having all the nuts come on and say he's a racist when he has never done anything in his life to show racist behavior..

Yeah, I watched his first press conference saying he would run for president and knew as soon as he said the "Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, and I guess some are good people" it was going to be a big problem..

He should have apologized for that immediately. There's no way that comment was planned. It just came out like that and it sounded stupid..

He could have been elected president without all the anti-immigrant things. Most people just don't care about it.

Don't think anyone but real criminals should be deported in anyway..

Lady getting a fake ss number to work is not in any way reason to have her leave U.S.

American business wanted the cheap labor that undocumented workers gave them and for years their entry to the country was accepted as just the way things are..

Because of that I don't think anyone who came to the U.S. under that premise should have to leave the country..

thommy 02-19-2017 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21556399)

The guy has done more in 4 weeks than any President in my lifetime (whether you agree with his policies or not)

WHAT exactly have he done?
can you tell me all those things he have done ?

can you also tell me where the effect of what he have done is VISIBLE ?

all he have done is to part a country and made the white house to a reality soap for the whole world.

thommy 02-19-2017 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyNight (Post 21556702)

Don't think anyone but real criminals should be deported in anyway..

do you know that US is the country with the MOST imprisoned people in the world?
and 90% of the them are americans?

where do you want to deport them?

Quote:

American business wanted the cheap labor that undocumented workers gave them and for years their entry to the country was accepted as just the way things are..
wrong - American consumers want prosperity - this is only possible when you safe money on buying products.

seeandsee 02-19-2017 04:41 AM

I would not say he is lazy

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-19-2017 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyNight (Post 21556702)
I guess some people read me wrong...

I support Trumpy when he's right and thoroughly dislike the CNN'S and MSNBC's totally insane coverage that tries to portray him as a racist and crazy by having all the nuts come on and say he's a racist when he has never done anything in his life to show racist behavior..

Yeah, I watched his first press conference saying he would run for president and knew as soon as he said the "Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, and I guess some are good people" it was going to be a big problem..

He should have apologized for that immediately. There's no way that comment was planned. It just came out like that and it sounded stupid..

He could have been elected president without all the anti-immigrant things. Most people just don't care about it.

Don't think anyone but real criminals should be deported in anyway..

Lady getting a fake ss number to work is not in any way reason to have her leave U.S.

American business wanted the cheap labor that undocumented workers gave them and for years their entry to the country was accepted as just the way things are..

Because of that I don't think anyone who came to the U.S. under that premise should have to leave the country..

For the 1,000,000th time he NEVER said "Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, and I guess some are good people"....he was talking about illegal immigrants, coming into the USA and there are a TON of drug dealers and rapists...and some good people...how after all this fucking time can people still spew this fucking lie and twist his words!? It's 2017, you have access to his goddam speech!

MaDalton 02-19-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21557248)
For the 1,000,000th time he NEVER said "Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists, and I guess some are good people"....he was talking about illegal immigrants, coming into the USA and there are a TON of drug dealers and rapists...and some good people...how after all this fucking time can people still spew this fucking lie and twist his words!? It's 2017, you have access to his goddam speech!

you mad, bro?

Yanks_Todd 02-19-2017 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21556399)
Wow, the President gives a speech to the American people.
Actually goes out there and does it.

And the reaction on GFY is that he is running from his "work" in Washington D.C.???

The guy has done more in 4 weeks than any President in my lifetime (whether you agree with his policies or not)

And by the way...ALL Presidents give speeches around the country. They just don't draw thousands of people like Trump does.

Here are a list of speeches that Pres. Obama gave during his first term around the country...didn't hear any of you being derogatory towards him when he did it (or Bush, or Clinton...or every President in history):
President Obama's First-Term Speeches

Facts: His speech was to his supporters. Very specifically his supporters. What he has done. Reversed what Obama has done, net zero, appointed a cabinet, net zero picked a SCOTUS, net zero. Signed some unfunded EOs? Yes, but less than his most recent predessecors.No president has ever started a campaign so early - Fact.

He is getting grief for three weekends in FL because he gave grief. If he wants to be treated differently, he should act different.

He said he has done more and you believe it. However this is provably false.

nico-t 02-19-2017 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21557254)
you mad, bro?

i think it's more frustration at some people's stupidity who still believe the 100% made up lie, by the mainstream media, that Trump is "racist".

thommy 02-19-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21557335)
i think it's more frustration at some people's stupidity who still believe the 100% made up lie, by the mainstream media, that Trump is "racist".

so that means you do NOT believe in the mainstream media but you believe in media where you do not even know who is behind?

These so-called mainstream media are now legally obliged to print a counter-statement when they spread lies. This means that Trump immediately put them into the obligation to print such a counter-statement, because they are legally obliged to do so.

As trump is well known for taking legal action against all and everything I can not believe that he would not do that.

But WHERE ARE THEY ????

did you see any counter statements of ANY of this "mainstream fake media" ?

And why did trump not FORCE them with legal action to print it ?
is it maybe because he canīt prove the opposite or are his lawyers just too busy with other things?

Robbie 02-19-2017 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21556603)
Wow. I am so blown away by people fantasies about this man. This is simply not reality dude. Wow.

LOL...you are going to tell me that's not reality?

Whatever brother. :)

Robbie 02-19-2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21556720)
WHAT exactly have he done?
can you tell me all those things he have done ?

can you also tell me where the effect of what he have done is VISIBLE ?

all he have done is to part a country and made the white house to a reality soap for the whole world.

Absolutely I can tell you. If you just opened your eyes and stopped listening to the crazed talk show hosts on CNN you would already know.

Here is a list from Politico...who hate Trump, so you can't say it's "biased" for Trump in any way. I copy/pasted it exactly as they wrote it...including their criticisms. It was written 3 days ago (before Friday)

"Donald Trump will hit the four-week-mark Friday on a presidency that has begun like no other ? full of big promises, constant controversy, the ever-present encroaching of major scandal, and zero regard for the previous norms of American politics.

Beneath the noise, however, there has been a march, however halting and disorganized, toward Trump?s promised radical remaking of American policy, foreign and domestic. The border wall his critics said he?d never build has been ordered, his promised rollback of regulations is in full swing, his Supreme Court pick that will likely sit on the bench for decades, and even the ?Muslim ban? he promised during the Republican primary was put in place, however briefly, in altered form.


The dual track is familiar to those who watched his campaign, during which a series of controversies and scandals garnered mass attention while few foresaw Trump?s success in building a winning coalition. But a presidency is a longer race than even the campaign, and it remains to be seen whether Trump can outrun his missteps the way he did last fall.

So far, Trump has signed at least 23 executive actions, signed five bills into law, seen 12 members of his Cabinet confirmed, nominated one justice to the Supreme Court, sent 168 (undeleted) tweets, fired one acting attorney general and demanded one resignation: that of his own national security adviser."

Robbie 02-19-2017 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21557329)
Facts: His speech was to his supporters. Very specifically his supporters. What he has done.

You could have written that same text about Pres. Obama going all over the country during his Presidency giving speeches.

Fact: Nobody goes to a speech by a politician they DON'T like (unless the DNC is paying them to "protest" it)

mineistaken 02-19-2017 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21559027)
LOL...you are going to tell me that's not reality?

Whatever brother. :)

That "you" is establishment media that brainwashed him by the way. They do not think for themselves.
Only a loony would not see that Trump loves his country and is trying (and doing, as opposed to many all talk no action types) to do all the best things for American people. That is not liked by establishment (and their false narrative pushing media) big league!
And when big portion of people use emotional thinking vs rational thinking, you get all those puppet parroting false media narrative.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-19-2017 07:47 PM

it was an amazing speech

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-19-2017 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21556402)
Honest question: would you lick Trumps balls and deep into his taint to save America, no BS honest answer.

you are defeated you have no argument

timlover 02-19-2017 09:42 PM

Regardless of whether or not you think it was a great speech, there are certain numerical facts that are not going to change.

1) You can't spend your entire presidency giving speeches to only your base in airport hangers.

2) When you have an approval rating of 38% nationally that is continuing to slide, that should tell you that there are 62% of Americans who aren't going to airport hangers to listen to him.

3) Trumps base accounts for about 40% of the conservative party. That means that there is 60% of people of the GOP that are willing to turn their backs on him should the situation arise.

Analysis. Trump's message is not only failing to reach ANY Democrats, his reach outside of his base only extends via the goodwill of the GOP and their base. For every percentage point nationally that he drops, these are GOP base voters fleeing. Not Democrats. It's not like the lost percentages are a mixture of positive gains in approval by Democrats or Independents thinking he is doing a bang up job.

The GOP base is starting to bleed out. When they start running harder, they will have to have somewhere to go. The GOP will have to decide then to get rid of Trump, or lose voters to Democrats or other parties.

The GOP is not dependent on the Trump base to carry them. Trump is though, dependent on the GOP base.

2018 campaigns will be underway soon. If his approval ratings are as dismal as they are now, the GOP will cut bait from him and impeach his ass for Pence.

This it the cut and dry of it. GOP senators and representatives are not going to sit by idly and let Trump drag their careers down the toilet, nor their majorities.

Making concessions and moving closer to the center is the only way approval ratings go up. Trump would have to make a major policy shift for this to happen. Frankly, he's already burnt his bridges on that anyways regardless if he tried to do it. He's already dead weight on the back of the GOP. That's the downfall of a scorched earth campaign.

Politics is learning how to pick your fights and your battles. Trump wants to fight everybody and he never can turn down a battle when presented. He's fighting on so many fronts that his base support simply can't support him. Just like a thinned out supply line. Had he came into office and shored up his connections, built a few bridges, improved his communications lines. He would have something to stand and build on.

Trump sees this presidency as a war. A hostile takeover. Ironically the guy has pushed his image as a master builder of things and the only thing he has built is a growing opposition to his war on America. You can't war with the establishment at the same time you are sticking your hand out asking for a cookie from it.

This is his downfall. You can't govern a country the way you run a business enterprise. They have a fundamentally different architecture and adhere to a completely different set of constraints. You might as well be trying to play a game of baseball using the Patriots offense playbook. What do you get? Confusion on the field. Errors. Penalties.

All it will take is just time for Trump's vision to fail. As the errors mount up and the political miscalculations mount, the consequences will become more visible to the American people. Eventually even his base. The scariest part of that is WTF has to happen that horrible to convince all these deluded people to finally get off the Titanic and admit its taking on water because its idiot Captain hit an iceberg.

There is no give Trump a chance because Trump won't give himself a chance. He won't change. Ever. He will go down with the ship and try to take as many people as he can when that happens. He doesn't understand that there is a limit and a line on political capital. He is running out of it. He has no knowledge or desire to obtain more of it. He's just spending spending spending with every tweet and ridiculous act.

Having a successful Presidency and getting re-elected requires making concessions. The only concessions Trump is interested in making are the ones that sell his shitty water and hot dogs on his golf course at the 9th tee clubhouse.

yumyumiulia 02-19-2017 11:55 PM

Can you please stop with this... "man" ? I'm getting sick of trump..

Yanks_Todd 02-20-2017 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlover (Post 21559240)
Regardless of whether or not you think it was a great speech, there are certain numerical facts that are not going to change.

1) You can't spend your entire presidency giving speeches to only your base in airport hangers.

2) When you have an approval rating of 38% nationallyou....

Mic drop. On target man

Yanks_Todd 02-20-2017 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21559045)
Absolutely I can tell you. If you just opened your eyes and stopped listening to the crazed talk show hosts on CNN you would already know.

Here is a list from Politico...who hate Trump, so you can't say it's "biased" for Trump in any way. I copy/pasted it exactly as they wrote it...including their criticisms. It was written 3 days ago (before Friday)

"Donald Trump will hit the four-week-mark Friday on a presidency that has begun like no other ? full of big promises, constant controversy, the ever-present encroaching of major scandal, and zero regard for the previous norms of American politics.

Beneath the noise, however, there has been a march, however halting and disorganized, toward Trump?s promised radical remaking of American policy, foreign and domestic. The border wall his critics said he?d never build has been ordered, his promised rollback of regulations is in full swing, his Supreme Court pick that will likely sit on the bench for decades, and even the ?Muslim ban? he promised during the Republican primary was put in place, however briefly, in altered form.


The dual track is familiar to those who watched his campaign, during which a series of controversies and scandals garnered mass attention while few foresaw Trump?s success in building a winning coalition. But a presidency is a longer race than even the campaign, and it remains to be seen whether Trump can outrun his missteps the way he did last fall.

So far, Trump has signed at least 23 executive actions, signed five bills into law, seen 12 members of his Cabinet confirmed, nominated one justice to the Supreme Court, sent 168 (undeleted) tweets, fired one acting attorney general and demanded one resignation: that of his own national security adviser."

Did you just list tweets as an accomplishment? Hahahahaha, no dude you are right. What a leader. Lol Tremendous, bigly all the way. Once again that list is par for the course. Unfunded EOS don'the mean they will happen.

NewNick 02-20-2017 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21556603)
Wow. I am so blown away by people fantasies about this man. This is simply not reality dude. Wow.

+1

Robbie used to have a reasonable point that he believed that Trumps economic policies re jobs should be given a chance.

Now it is like listening to Johnny-Boi's best POTUS in history bullshit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme:1orglaugh

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-20-2017 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlover (Post 21559240)
Regardless of whether or not you think it was a great speech, there are certain numerical facts that are not going to change.

1) You can't spend your entire presidency giving speeches to only your base in airport hangers.

2) When you have an approval rating of 38% nationally that is continuing to slide, that should tell you that there are 62% of Americans who aren't going to airport hangers to listen to him.

3) Trumps base accounts for about 40% of the conservative party. That means that there is 60% of people of the GOP that are willing to turn their backs on him should the situation arise.

Analysis. Trump's message is not only failing to reach ANY Democrats, his reach outside of his base only extends via the goodwill of the GOP and their base. For every percentage point nationally that he drops, these are GOP base voters fleeing. Not Democrats. It's not like the lost percentages are a mixture of positive gains in approval by Democrats or Independents thinking he is doing a bang up job.

The GOP base is starting to bleed out. When they start running harder, they will have to have somewhere to go. The GOP will have to decide then to get rid of Trump, or lose voters to Democrats or other parties.

The GOP is not dependent on the Trump base to carry them. Trump is though, dependent on the GOP base.

2018 campaigns will be underway soon. If his approval ratings are as dismal as they are now, the GOP will cut bait from him and impeach his ass for Pence.

This it the cut and dry of it. GOP senators and representatives are not going to sit by idly and let Trump drag their careers down the toilet, nor their majorities.

Making concessions and moving closer to the center is the only way approval ratings go up. Trump would have to make a major policy shift for this to happen. Frankly, he's already burnt his bridges on that anyways regardless if he tried to do it. He's already dead weight on the back of the GOP. That's the downfall of a scorched earth campaign.

Politics is learning how to pick your fights and your battles. Trump wants to fight everybody and he never can turn down a battle when presented. He's fighting on so many fronts that his base support simply can't support him. Just like a thinned out supply line. Had he came into office and shored up his connections, built a few bridges, improved his communications lines. He would have something to stand and build on.

Trump sees this presidency as a war. A hostile takeover. Ironically the guy has pushed his image as a master builder of things and the only thing he has built is a growing opposition to his war on America. You can't war with the establishment at the same time you are sticking your hand out asking for a cookie from it.

This is his downfall. You can't govern a country the way you run a business enterprise. They have a fundamentally different architecture and adhere to a completely different set of constraints. You might as well be trying to play a game of baseball using the Patriots offense playbook. What do you get? Confusion on the field. Errors. Penalties.

All it will take is just time for Trump's vision to fail. As the errors mount up and the political miscalculations mount, the consequences will become more visible to the American people. Eventually even his base. The scariest part of that is WTF has to happen that horrible to convince all these deluded people to finally get off the Titanic and admit its taking on water because its idiot Captain hit an iceberg.

There is no give Trump a chance because Trump won't give himself a chance. He won't change. Ever. He will go down with the ship and try to take as many people as he can when that happens. He doesn't understand that there is a limit and a line on political capital. He is running out of it. He has no knowledge or desire to obtain more of it. He's just spending spending spending with every tweet and ridiculous act.

Having a successful Presidency and getting re-elected requires making concessions. The only concessions Trump is interested in making are the ones that sell his shitty water and hot dogs on his golf course at the 9th tee clubhouse.

Didn't we hear the same thing as to why he was going to LOSE the election? His approval rating is well over 50%...don't believe the FAKE NEWS. The only people who hate him are to the left of stalin - people in CA and NYC

NewNick 02-20-2017 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21560221)
Didn't we hear the same thing as to why he was going to LOSE the election? His approval rating is well over 50%...don't believe the FAKE NEWS. The only people who hate him are to the left of stalin - people in CA and NYC

Say Johnny, whats new in conspiracy land ?

Robbie 02-20-2017 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 21559582)
Did you just list tweets as an accomplishment? Hahahahaha, no dude you are right. What a leader. Lol Tremendous, bigly all the way. Once again that list is par for the course. Unfunded EOS don'the mean they will happen.

I didn't list anything.

I plainly said I copy/pasted that from Anti-Trump site Politico

And I plainly said that I included their criticisms of him. Unlike you, I don't need to be biased and wear blinders.

Robbie 02-20-2017 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21559654)
+1

Robbie used to have a reasonable point that he believed that Trumps economic policies re jobs should be given a chance.

Now it is like listening to Johnny-Boi's best POTUS in history bullshit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme:1orglaugh

I still have a "reasonable point". You guys have NONE.

Latest Economic Confidence poll:
Gallup Daily: U.S. Economic Confidence Index | Gallup

Latest stock market:
New highs on Wall Street as Dow inches up moments before the close

You guys can't see past the b.s. being fed to you.

Just remember: The media LOVED Trump. Until he ran for President as a Republican.

If he's a monster...then why were they fawning over him since the 1970's? And why did he suddenly become the most dangerous man on Earth according to them?

Use your brain. Forget about all the talking points you hear on CNN. Look and think for yourself.

thommy 02-20-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 21559240)
Regardless of whether or not you think it was a great speech, there are certain numerical facts that are not going to change.

1) You can't spend your entire presidency giving speeches to only your base in airport hangers.

2) When you have an approval rating of 38% nationally that is continuing to slide, that should tell you that there are 62% of Americans who aren't going to airport hangers to listen to him.

3) Trumps base accounts for about 40% of the conservative party. That means that there is 60% of people of the GOP that are willing to turn their backs on him should the situation arise.

Analysis. Trump's message is not only failing to reach ANY Democrats, his reach outside of his base only extends via the goodwill of the GOP and their base. For every percentage point nationally that he drops, these are GOP base voters fleeing. Not Democrats. It's not like the lost percentages are a mixture of positive gains in approval by Democrats or Independents thinking he is doing a bang up job.

The GOP base is starting to bleed out. When they start running harder, they will have to have somewhere to go. The GOP will have to decide then to get rid of Trump, or lose voters to Democrats or other parties.

The GOP is not dependent on the Trump base to carry them. Trump is though, dependent on the GOP base.

2018 campaigns will be underway soon. If his approval ratings are as dismal as they are now, the GOP will cut bait from him and impeach his ass for Pence.

This it the cut and dry of it. GOP senators and representatives are not going to sit by idly and let Trump drag their careers down the toilet, nor their majorities.

Making concessions and moving closer to the center is the only way approval ratings go up. Trump would have to make a major policy shift for this to happen. Frankly, he's already burnt his bridges on that anyways regardless if he tried to do it. He's already dead weight on the back of the GOP. That's the downfall of a scorched earth campaign.

Politics is learning how to pick your fights and your battles. Trump wants to fight everybody and he never can turn down a battle when presented. He's fighting on so many fronts that his base support simply can't support him. Just like a thinned out supply line. Had he came into office and shored up his connections, built a few bridges, improved his communications lines. He would have something to stand and build on.

Trump sees this presidency as a war. A hostile takeover. Ironically the guy has pushed his image as a master builder of things and the only thing he has built is a growing opposition to his war on America. You can't war with the establishment at the same time you are sticking your hand out asking for a cookie from it.

This is his downfall. You can't govern a country the way you run a business enterprise. They have a fundamentally different architecture and adhere to a completely different set of constraints. You might as well be trying to play a game of baseball using the Patriots offense playbook. What do you get? Confusion on the field. Errors. Penalties.

All it will take is just time for Trump's vision to fail. As the errors mount up and the political miscalculations mount, the consequences will become more visible to the American people. Eventually even his base. The scariest part of that is WTF has to happen that horrible to convince all these deluded people to finally get off the Titanic and admit its taking on water because its idiot Captain hit an iceberg.

There is no give Trump a chance because Trump won't give himself a chance. He won't change. Ever. He will go down with the ship and try to take as many people as he can when that happens. He doesn't understand that there is a limit and a line on political capital. He is running out of it. He has no knowledge or desire to obtain more of it. He's just spending spending spending with every tweet and ridiculous act.

Having a successful Presidency and getting re-elected requires making concessions. The only concessions Trump is interested in making are the ones that sell his shitty water and hot dogs on his golf course at the 9th tee clubhouse.

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