Can we please get rid of Obamacare?
 

It seems like the globalists in congress and the senate won't do away with it

Somali refugees welcome!

No! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They're cumming anyway...Especially in white girls...In 100 years we will all be brown...Especially Norway

If so, then society will crumble

Can you please jump off a bridge..

White girls enjoy interracial creampies...The seed of the black man's loin dripping out of their pink pussies and running down their thighs...Are you feeling it?

Disgusting...

We will all be like brown asian Muslims...

Thank's to disgusting traitors.

Listen to yourselves! I cannot believe there are still people out there who don't want free healthcare. :upsidedow

dude you should get a black girlfriend and start banging...we can eradicate racism if we are all nice and brown...nobody is stopping you :thumbsup

Why get rid of it and what would you replace it with?

^^ Have to admit Paul has a point.
Healthcare has become the new 3rd rail of US politics.
Increasing taxes and having that pay for a universal healthcare is the end game. However, Big-Med and Big-Pharma will be getting a serious haircut to make universal healthcare affordable. Most private insurers will go out of business and their public stock become worthless.

First step is to no longer subsidize insurers with business tax deductions for employees' medical insurance plans. Everyone will have to pay out of their own pocket -- and bleed from the cost.

Only then will something constructive be done.

Voters will DEMAND something be done

Universal healthcare sucks. All it does is lower quality and standards and has people waiting years to get diagnosed with anything.

oh and in america you get to see a specialist the same day to tell you you cant afford the treatment or have to go in to debt slavery :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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There will be healthcare+ insurance to buy to put you at the head of the line -- I will be able to afford that because a low deductible healthcare insurance policy costs me $7K/year now for 1 person -- I am in the highest rated age group.

If you don't have much money to spend at least you will get basic care on a rationed basis -- according to need and not according to what you can pay.

Life is a shit sandwich they say -- more bread the less shit you have to eat.

Well instead of pushing for universal healthcare which is bad for everyone why not push for a welfare state that covers insurance? Best of both worlds right there.

Life expectancy is increasing in every modern country except the US where it is dropping.

We are on par to have the same life expectancy as Mexico in a few years.

Almost every country is using a VAT or a GST -- much of that money goes toward healthcare and social services. Go live in a cave and take care of yourself.

"welfare state" is a bullshit talking point.

Medicare is a model for universal healthcare -- everyone pays for it that earns income and only gets it when they are 65+ There is already an existing model -- the numbers and benefits just have to change.

Medicaid pays for minimal services for the poor and the working poor now -- your taxes are paying for that (assuming that you pay any taxes).

You argument is a red hearing.

I meant welfare system not state. Vat isn't a good thing either. Adding vat to help the poor is a moot point. "lets help the poor with healthcare by taxing them 20% on everything they buy" I'm in the UK where we have universal healthcare and ill tell you its bloody terrible. The best thing they could do is scrap it.

I can afford the US healthcare cost -- many people cannot. For years I was not covered by employer paid insurance and had access to the healthcare system but for the little I could afford.

When I was about 30 they sent me home from the hospital with a kidney stone lodged in my urethra because I couldn't pay for ultrasonic or surgical treatment. I could have ended up losing a kidney. I went back to work -- ironically fixing a giant brick staircase for a rich doctor. He advised me to hydrate and ambulate (drink a lot of water and keep working and bending) and that kidney stone would probably break up and pass -- fortunately it did. With considerable pain.

That was life for a lot of people before Obamacare. That was 30 years ago. It's pretty pitiful that when you work the best you can you are left to suffer or die. I think the healthcare I get is pretty good now but today I can afford to pay for it. I am the same person (human) I was 30 years ago -- why was that bust ass hard working guy treated so poorly?

I'm not arguing that. I am saying that instead of having universal healthcare which sucks for everyone it would be better to have some kind of benifit allowing you to pay for the insurance you need. It'll be cheaper for the government and keep the high standards.

I'm just starting my business and being self-employed again. I can't afford health insurance at the moment. Taking 100+% of my income to pay for something I don't need is robbery.

I figure if I am going to have a medical emergency it's not going to be a stroke or heart attack (I'm healthy) it's going to be from some kind of accident and my car insurance has that covered. It costs like an extra $5/mo to have comprehensive auto insurance that covers somewhere around $250,000 in my own medical bills.