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Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 03:07 PM

Ben Carson says: African Slaves were Immigrants with a Dream
 
?That?s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?
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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 03:08 PM

Well what else were they?

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 03:09 PM

Guess who got hit with the stupid stick this week ...

ruff 03-06-2017 03:19 PM

Wasn't Ben Carson one of those fantastic, marvelous, smart, cream of the crop, bestest, people that money can buy, the kind of intelligent brainiacs that tRump is supposed to be hiring to populate his administration? I thought that was a campaign promise. Why is he hiring dipshits, racists, morons, idiots, alt-right fuckbubbles and turnip heads instead?

ruff 03-06-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21600535)
Well what else were they?

They were tourists dumbass.

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 03:24 PM

Those chains were olden days seat belts ...

escorpio 03-06-2017 03:28 PM

Your ancestors got a free boat ride to America?

http://www.relatably.com/m/img/lucky...b9d4ab9a67.jpg

kane 03-06-2017 03:29 PM

Ben Carson is one of those people that proves a person can be absolutely brilliant at one thing and yet still be clueless about many others.

He's like a savant who can solve complex math problems quickly in their head yet can't tie their own shoes.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 03:34 PM

of course it's completely taken out of context

crockett 03-06-2017 03:48 PM

LOL I just laughed my ass off at that title... If he really said that, he's a stupid mother fucker..

kane 03-06-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21600721)
LOL I just laughed my ass off at that title... If he really said that, he's a stupid mother fucker..

Here is the full quote.

?That's what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,? said Carson, speaking extemporaneously as he paced the room with a microphone. ?But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 04:03 PM

typical liberals taking everything out of context

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 05:03 PM

I guess it was Carson's turn to be stupid and cause a diversion maybe?

Yes, being forced into slavery was an opportunity ... A free ticket to America ...

Forced migration ... That is like saying abortions are good for children.

nico-t 03-06-2017 05:34 PM

Holy shit, way to oversimplify and completely yank it out of context... now tell me was this bit of fake news worth that insane brainwashed obsessed original post?

Get a life moron :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 03-06-2017 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21600583)
Wasn't Ben Carson one of those fantastic, marvelous, smart, cream of the crop, bestest, people that money can buy, the kind of intelligent brainiacs that tRump is supposed to be hiring to populate his administration? I thought that was a campaign promise. Why is he hiring dipshits, racists, morons, idiots, alt-right fuckbubbles and turnip heads instead?

nobody normal would work for trump...let alone cream of the crop experts...

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 06:06 PM

Yes -- Ben Carson is a regular mental giant. He is living proof of how the bible can fuck with your mind. The Hebrews were migrants of a famine in Canaan that freely went to Egypt and became the Pharaohs' slaves -- not the Africans forced into slavery in the New World.

Ben Carson must have a degenerative brain disease. For a former brain surgeon he is a raving lunatic. Either that or Trump wanted 1/3 of HUD's employees to quit :laughing-

Matt 26z 03-06-2017 06:14 PM

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant
Definition of immigrant
: one that immigrates: such as
a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

Rochard 03-06-2017 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21601252)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant
Definition of immigrant
: one that immigrates: such as
a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21601528)
You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.

look at the whole statement dumbass

mineistaken 03-06-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21601087)
I guess it was Carson's turn to be stupid and cause a diversion maybe?

Yes, being forced into slavery was an opportunity ... A free ticket to America ...

Forced migration ... That is like saying abortions are good for children.

Those who were not beaten by the masters probably had better life than back in the wild.

And how do you know what they thought while being chained? Maybe they were fed some lines about great new word etc. Remember that they knew nothing, it was dark times, especially in African wilds...

mineistaken 03-06-2017 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21601528)
You are kidding right? If you don't know the difference between an immigrant and a slave you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or have children.

Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).

mineistaken 03-06-2017 07:52 PM

By the way so far Ben was called dumb etc etc.
If he was white he would be racist, well you know, because libby double standard...

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21601561)
Those who were not beaten by the masters probably had better life than back in the wild.

And how do you know what they thought while being chained? Maybe they were fed some lines about great new word etc. Remember that they knew nothing, it was dark times, especially in African wilds...

And the women that were raped really liked it -- fucking idiot.

kane 03-06-2017 07:59 PM

Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

Classic.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21601615)
Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

Classic.

What else were they?

kane 03-06-2017 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21601618)
What else were they?

uuuhhh....Slaves.

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 08:06 PM

Black slaves were forced into slavery -- they didn't 'volunteer' in any way, shape or form.

Ben Carson is Amos 'n Andy Reloaded ...

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21601615)
Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

Classic.

A Trumpism :1orglaugh

ruff 03-06-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21600772)
Here is the full quote.

?That's what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,? said Carson, speaking extemporaneously as he paced the room with a microphone. ?But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.?

So there were the slaves in the slave ships and then there were the immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships. I missed that part in history class. I did not know slave ships had tourist class accommodations. I see now. That must be where Martin Luther King got that "We have a Dream" stuff, from the black tourists of the 17th and 18th century.

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 08:22 PM

I have a dream -- bust these chains!

Matt 26z 03-06-2017 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21601678)
I have a dream -- bust these chains!

Most slaves didn't even know they were slaves since their lives improved so much compared to life in Africa. Ironically, the African tribes who captured and sold them to whitey were living worse lives than an American slave.

While the mainstream image of slavery is men being whipped and beaten in the fields, that is generally not true. These men were farm workers and their owners needed them to be in top physical condition.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-06-2017 08:38 PM

stop watching the movies they weren't in chains lol

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 08:40 PM

Slavery was good for the Black African -- where did you learn that at a KKK meeting?

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 08:42 PM

Yeah right -- they could buy comfort seats on the slave boat. Their own piss pot and a window seat :laughing-

Rochard 03-06-2017 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21601573)
Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).

An immigrant is someone who moves to a new country in search of a better life. A slave is someone who is kidnapped, and forced to slave labor, no matter where they end up. Calling a slave an immigrant is rather insulting.

If I hit you over the head, put you in boat, and you wake up in Africa, you aren't an immigrant there. You are a victim.

MPGdevil 03-07-2017 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21601741)
Most slaves didn't even know they were slaves since their lives improved so much compared to life in Africa. Ironically, the African tribes who captured and sold them to whitey were living worse lives than an American slave.

While the mainstream image of slavery is men being whipped and beaten in the fields, that is generally not true. These men were farm workers and their owners needed them to be in top physical condition.

Yes indians and Africans should all be grateful how they were treated by the European settlers :D

How about sending some of your homeless people into Trumps new coal mines. Then they have roof over their head and something to spend their days with. If they protest just beat them up an throw them on busses. It's for their own good.

Matt 26z 03-07-2017 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 21602023)
Yes indians and Africans should all be grateful how they were treated by the European settlers :D

The vast majority of native Americans died of what was to them exotic diseases that spread west faster than the settlers did.

And you can do further reading on what slaves really thought of slavery. Here are a bunch of quotes from actual slaves:
Blacks Loved Slavery and Regretted Its End – Daily Stormer

Paul Markham 03-07-2017 01:42 AM

Why do people vote for this moron?

Look Chang 03-07-2017 02:06 AM

These "immigrants" enjoyed nice tour packages...

https://janeaustensworld.files.wordp...lave-ship2.jpg

nico-t 03-07-2017 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21601615)
Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

Classic.

Uhm... Logic and facts say they are exactly that you idiot :1orglaugh

What are the facts?

- They were slaves.
- They migrated to another country.

Whether they migrated under force, lies, money, or whatever doesn't matter. The fact remains is that they migrated!

Fucking desperate retards spinning every single word just to create headlines, and the most pathetic thing is you people falling for it, parroting it. Idiots

MiamiBoyz 03-07-2017 04:44 AM

http://68.media.tumblr.com/fa34d825e...vatvo1_500.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 03-07-2017 06:08 AM

African slaves were immigrants that had a dream and worked for less
:laughing-
Ben Carson is the Idiot of the Month

Tasty1 03-07-2017 06:43 AM

Holland never traded slaves. They just travelled 5th class on an cruise ship and worked to pay for their ticket.

Joshua G 03-07-2017 07:48 AM

Why are so many media outlets reporting on the rantings of a GOP nobody ever heard of? Ben carson is a zero! U dumb libs dont even know who he is!

Because the liberal media wants to paint all GOP with the brush of racism.

So the media response is hyper-disproportionate to the q-score of the speaker. His comments were just stupid, not worth the coverage.

Once again, dumb libs being ginned up to hate by liberal propaganda press.

Dumb libs.

:1orglaugh

mineistaken 03-07-2017 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21601597)
And the women that were raped really liked it -- fucking idiot.

Idiot, learn basic reading skills, I said those who were NOT beaten. So same goes for women, those who were NOT raped and beaten.

mineistaken 03-07-2017 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21601615)
Carson is now defending himself saying slaves were "Involuntary immigrants."

Classic.

How is that classic? I wrote the same thing even before he "defended" himself.
Where do you see the definition of word immigrant that states it must be voluntary?
Immigrating is moving to another country, definition is not being broken by voluntary or not.

You are used to using this word for voluntary immigration that is why it is "not correct" for you. But if you leave emotions out, Ben is 100% correct, involuntary immigration is immigration.

Another example of emotional vs rational thinking.

RedFred 03-07-2017 08:04 AM

slavery is a-ok just as long as they are not beaten? but the bible disagrees with you


When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

-Exodus 21:20-21

mineistaken 03-07-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21601624)
uuuhhh....Slaves.

Slaves AND immigrants.

These things do not cancel each other out.

As I already posted:

Slave is a forced immigrant. Forced immigrant is immigrant.

Slave definition has nothing to do with migration, it has to do with being property (migrated or not, nothing todo with definition of slave).

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 08:05 AM

Shouldn't have even brought the slaves here or freed them for that matter...look at whats happened since

mineistaken 03-07-2017 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21601633)
Black slaves were forced into slavery -- they didn't 'volunteer' in any way, shape or form.

That is exactly what he said - INvoluntary, duh... :helpme


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