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Joshua G 03-08-2017 07:28 PM

to be honest trump & the GOP are stumbling out of the gate
 
2 problems.

1) doing an executive order that can be perceived as a muslim ban, but really is not, & trump is paying a price for an action that doesnt make america any safer. i accuse libs of symbolism over substance & the early trump action is more of the same.

2) taking on healthcare, now. Ryan & trump are giving in to the tea party base, that wants obamacare gone, no ifs ands or buts. But healthcare is complicated, its a divisive issue, no democrats will go along. so the GOP is basically setting themselves up to fail at their first big initiative. Stupid.

the main thing im happy about with trump is that he is not hilary. & that is good enough for now, considering the emerging horror of obama sabotaging his successor. the identity politics democrats really are repugnant criminals with no respect for the rule of law.

thank God, literally, for saving the USA from more criminal liberal rule!

:2 cents:

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-08-2017 07:29 PM

Healthcare is going to be a disaster either way I am afraid :(

Joshua G 03-08-2017 07:35 PM

at some point ryan needs to grow some balls & confront the freedom caucus. those bozos are as blind & hyper partisan like the congressional black caucus. if the dumb political parties would make effort to be bi-partisan, congress could get around the extremists.

but shutting half of congress out of the political process guarantees that nut-cases control the show. as we are seeing with congress, right now.

& giving the house back to pelosi wont change a god damn thing...

:mad:

Joshua G 03-08-2017 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21608692)
Healthcare is going to be a disaster either way I am afraid :(

it will only be a PR disaster, because nothing is going to pass. thats a prediction you can take to the bank.

its hard to see what will actually get done. the GOP still has a civil war between moderates & conservatives/teabaggers. & if the democrat votes are automatically No votes, forget it.

looks like a do nothing congress is in the offing, with most action coming from the executive, as far as change. SCOTUS picks were the golden eggs of the entire election...

:2 cents:

bronco67 03-08-2017 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21608683)
2 problems.

1) doing an executive order that can be perceived as a muslim ban, but really is not, & trump is paying a price for an action that doesnt make america any safer. i accuse libs of symbolism over substance & the early trump action is more of the same.

2) taking on healthcare, now. Ryan & trump are giving in to the tea party base, that wants obamacare gone, no ifs ands or buts. But healthcare is complicated, its a divisive issue, no democrats will go along. so the GOP is basically setting themselves up to fail at their first big initiative. Stupid.

the main thing im happy about with trump is that he is not hilary. & that is good enough for now, considering the emerging horror of obama sabotaging his successor. the identity politics democrats really are repugnant criminals with no respect for the rule of law.

thank God, literally, for saving the USA from more criminal liberal rule!

:2 cents:

You said a couple of things that actually make sense. Congratulations, there's a first time for everything.

Joshua G 03-08-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21608848)
You said a couple of things that actually make sense. Congratulations, there's a first time for everything.

at some point you will recognize that im not 100% in the bag for 1 side, just 80%. would be nice to find a lib that can properly critique his own side. never get that from you, for example.

:upsidedow

kane 03-08-2017 09:27 PM

I have a feeling the healthcare stuff might get kicked until after the 2018 election. As you say, as it is written, it has no chance of passing the Senate and very little chance of passing the House. They can't change it to make the far right happy or they will lose the moderates and they can't ignore the far right as they control too many seats. After some initial failure, they might decide to wait and hope they pick up seats in the next election so they can overcome a filibuster and maybe work around the far right.

Of course, you never know what could happen in an election even if they don't lose control of either house, losing seats in either house will make it so that it is nearly impossible to do anything without the Democrats.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-08-2017 09:29 PM

We need to cut the poor people off in this country ASAP

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-08-2017 09:57 PM

500,000 new jobs, illegal crossings down to lowest level in 5 years, CIA exposed as traitors. And it's only been a month.

escorpio 03-08-2017 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21608848)
You said a couple of things that actually make sense. Congratulations, there's a first time for everything.

Still waiting for your first time.

Linkster 03-08-2017 10:53 PM

Why can we not just hear that ACA has been repealed as promised...I don't give a fuck what side you voted for - I'm sick of hearing about the real costs of all of these promises - if you want conservatives you better get rid of subsidies for everything :thumbsup

Filling the swamp one day at a time - fucking liars

kane 03-08-2017 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 21609088)
Why can we not just hear that ACA has been repealed as promised...I don't give a fuck what side you voted for - I'm sick of hearing about the real costs of all of these promises - if you want conservatives you better get rid of subsidies for everything :thumbsup

Filling the swamp one day at a time - fucking liars

Because a full repeal with no replacement would be political suicide for the Republicans.

brandonstills 03-08-2017 11:34 PM

Technology will cover the gap and bring prices down.

Ray Kurzweil claims we could become 'virtually immortal' as soon as 2029 | Daily Mail Online

bronco67 03-09-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 21609040)
Still waiting for your first time.

You wouldn't know what sense was if it fondled your nuts.

NewNick 03-09-2017 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21608683)
2 problems.

1) doing an executive order that can be perceived as a muslim ban, but really is not, & trump is paying a price for an action that doesnt make america any safer. i accuse libs of symbolism over substance & the early trump action is more of the same.

2) taking on healthcare, now. Ryan & trump are giving in to the tea party base, that wants obamacare gone, no ifs ands or buts. But healthcare is complicated, its a divisive issue, no democrats will go along. so the GOP is basically setting themselves up to fail at their first big initiative. Stupid.

the main thing im happy about with trump is that he is not hilary. & that is good enough for now, considering the emerging horror of obama sabotaging his successor. the identity politics democrats really are repugnant criminals with no respect for the rule of law.

thank God, literally, for saving the USA from more criminal liberal rule!

:2 cents:


So Josh BB to recap :

A) Your mans muslim ban is stoopid and wont protect anyone.

and

B) Your fuckwit baboons new healthcare plan is a pile of garbage and wont please anyone. Turns out healthcare is complicated stuff, who would have thought that !

But....you are still happy :thumbsup

Hey lets ignore the actual policy moves the guy is new in the job, has your Orange Baboon acted presidential and made you proud.

Lets see now, other than insulting half of the world and its leaders, tweeting obnoxious nonsense in the middle of the night, arguing about the size of the crowd, and acting like a right old queen 24/7, your still happy cos its not Hilary right :thumbsup

Remind me again about those dumb libs........:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

shiraz9944 03-09-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21610060)
So Josh BB to recap :

A) Your mans muslim ban is stoopid and wont protect anyone.

and

B) Your fuckwit baboons new healthcare plan is a pile of garbage and wont please anyone. Turns out healthcare is complicated stuff, who would have thought that !

But....you are still happy :thumbsup

Hey lets ignore the actual policy moves the guy is new in the job, has your Orange Baboon acted presidential and made you proud.

Lets see now, other than insulting half of the world and its leaders, tweeting obnoxious nonsense in the middle of the night, arguing about the size of the crowd, and acting like a right old queen 24/7, your still happy cos its not Hilary right :thumbsup

Remind me again about those dumb libs........:1orglaugh

:thumbsup



They are dumb, they lost an in the bag POTUS election, the house, the senate and 2/3 of all state legislatures. Not to mention the 2014 whipping wow. Trump's never been in politics, there IS a learning curve like any business LOL. The ACA you love is shit, it's 350 a month for single person coverage of healthy in their 30's with deductible of 750???? Are you shitting me? Then to top it off here in california, sutter health won't even accept Blue Cross or Blue shield plans (they are two companies here) Unless you have platinum, so you CAN'T keep your doctor as promised. To top it off there are only 3 choices of insurers as well LOL. So how is the ACA any good? No wonder 1/3 Californians are on medi-cal.

shiraz9944 03-09-2017 08:41 AM

You are better of going on the Dm's via TOR and getting your meds, you would save hundred per month LOL.

Joshua G 03-09-2017 08:47 AM

Look how dumb newnick is. I make some reasoned critiques of trump, instead of hi fiving me, he calls trump a baboon whose problem is he "insults" half the world.

Of course...all dumb libs care about is who trump offends. Retard.

Newnick puts the dumb in dumb lib. Thanks for the LOL.

:1orglaugh

escorpio 03-09-2017 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21609958)
You wouldn't know what sense was if it fondled your nuts.

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/...ally-weird.jpg

Bladewire 03-09-2017 09:27 AM

Dumb dumb idiot OP was so dumb he didn't vote but posts online supporting the dumbest dumb dumb POTUS USA has ever had stupid OP wonders why dumb dumb billionaire POTUS doesn't care he's taking away people's insurance and trippling the cost for others so dump.

Please keep OP's insurance the same and keep stupid dumb dumb on his meds whatever you do POTUS USA can't survive JoshuaG off his meds it will be the end of America.

Barry-xlovecam 03-09-2017 09:35 AM

Actually, watching Trump, the Tea Party and the GOP go down in flames is a blessing in disguise. This creates a real opening for a new party ... Maybe it is time ...

Joshua G 03-09-2017 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21610288)
Actually, watching Trump, the Tea Party and the GOP go down in flames is a blessing in disguise. This creates a real opening for a new party ... Maybe it is time ...

Funny...the dems are the most out of power in a century, but your focus is on a GOP collapse. & both parties are so rotten a business man that shills real estate scams beat them both.

Fyi lib...gop is 8 years ahead dems in terms of revolution.

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 03-09-2017 10:19 AM

The Democrat Party will have to reinvent themselves as the 2016 Election has them with one foot in the grave. The Trumplicans are jumping feet first into the fire.

PR_Glen 03-09-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21610135)
Look how dumb newnick is. I make some reasoned critiques of trump, instead of hi fiving me, he calls trump a baboon whose problem is he "insults" half the world.

Of course...all dumb libs care about is who trump offends. Retard.

Newnick puts the dumb in dumb lib. Thanks for the LOL.

:1orglaugh

You realize you literally do exactly that at least 10 times a day here right? You don't get to completely redeem yourself by making 1 or 2 reasonable posts. If you want to ever be taken seriously you need at least an attempt at fuckin balance. There is nothing wrong with getting emotional from time to time, some of these issues hit us directly and hard, I get that completely. But you almost always do and it comes off as ridiculous ramblings that don't make any sense.

Yes, both sides MUST be able to critique themselves and stand up and against when something is shitty. Yes, leading arguments with pure insulting language is a pointless practice. You are Americans first though. Party politics aren't even a division within, they are just necessary counter points that maintain a balance that has helped your country prosper for many years now and will continue to as both sides want and have the same goals overall. A true division will destroy that though.

Joshua G 03-09-2017 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21610669)
You realize you literally do exactly that at least 10 times a day here right? You don't get to completely redeem yourself by making 1 or 2 reasonable posts. If you want to ever be taken seriously you need at least an attempt at fuckin balance. There is nothing wrong with getting emotional from time to time, some of these issues hit us directly and hard, I get that completely. But you almost always do and it comes off as ridiculous ramblings that don't make any sense.

Yes, both sides MUST be able to critique themselves and stand up and against when something is shitty. Yes, leading arguments with pure insulting language is a pointless practice. You are Americans first though. Party politics aren't even a division within, they are just necessary counter points that maintain a balance that has helped your country prosper for many years now and will continue to as both sides want and have the same goals overall. A true division will destroy that though.

glen. i dont care about being reasonable anymore. to be right-of-center in 2017 is to have an entire mainstream media, liberal politicians, & dumb libs at GFY lie & smear & hate my values...liberals do what they say their opponents do...crockett is the epitome of projection at GFY.

90% of my posts are hate bombs at dumb libs, in reply to lies either the media or dumb libs are spreading. its my way of venting at the anger i feel everyday watching an entire ideology hate my country, call my fellow GOP racists when they are not, & all of this bullshit is legitimized by a lying press, that dumb people think is independent.

i cannot post a trump support MAGA thread without virulent hate replies by at least 6 dumbasses that have no lives, link to lies & intellectual garbage. So i fight back.

you dont like my troll? surf somewhere else. but in my troll lies intelligent insights, which is why you & numerous others click my threads, reply in my threads. even while i project redhat madness.

carry on. :)

shiraz9944 03-09-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21610753)
glen. i dont care about being reasonable anymore. to be right-of-center in 2017 is to have an entire mainstream media, liberal politicians, & dumb libs at GFY lie & smear & hate my values...liberals do what they say their opponents do...crockett is the epitome of projection at GFY.

90% of my posts are hate bombs at dumb libs, in reply to lies either the media or dumb libs are spreading. its my way of venting at the anger i feel everyday watching an entire ideology hate my country, call my fellow GOP racists when they are not, & all of this bullshit is legitimized by a lying press, that dumb people think is independent.

i cannot post a trump support MAGA thread without virulent hate replies by at least 6 dumbasses that have no lives, link to lies & intellectual garbage. So i fight back.

you dont like my troll? surf somewhere else. but in my troll lies intelligent insights, which is why you & numerous others click my threads, reply in my threads. even while i project redhat madness.

carry on. :)

I don't like Trump as a person one bit, he's definitely an egotistical asshole BUT look at all of the other politicians? I mean they will tell you it's not raining while you're standing in a hurricane. At least Trump says to your face what he's gonna do, not go behind your back like a sneak. I may not like him but he's doing exactly what he said he was gonna do? What did anyone expect? For him to suddenly go all center left? This country whether people agree or not is and has always been center/right and it will continue to be, Obama won because Bush was very bad in his second term and Obama was a fresh new face that offered hope and change :) Except he ended up telling us we could keep our doctor and our premiums would not change and everything would be great. He lied to our faces and the people didn't appreciate it. Anyone that says the ACA is working is lying, it's awful. Make more than 26k a year and you don't get ANY subsidy and you'll pay over 300 for a silver plan with 750 deductible that most doctors won't accept anyway, at least here in california. You have 3 choices in coveredca.com THREE? And nearly all the health systems won't accept any of them except a platinum plan that would put you out 450 a month for one person. How is this a good system? I had a 150 premium with BC and my doctor accepted it with 100 deductible before they rammed the ACA thru...........how can anyone say this is a good healthcare plan? I really mean it please tell me, I'm willing to listen.


February 20th, 2017 | Vol. 189, No. 6 | U.S. | TIME

Unless the Dems find new leadership and get rid of Schumer and Pelosi they will die as a party by next election cycle, but instead they are doubling and tripling down LOL. I mean WTF?

NewNick 03-09-2017 03:54 PM

Damm those pesky dumb libs, they made me mad and I said stuff, and y'know stuff kinda got outa hand.

Fuckin dumb libs.

Listen lets just say it wont happen again and I'm real sorry.

Just dont make me mad again.

Ok ?

Relic 03-09-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21608683)
2 problems.

1) doing an executive order that can be perceived as a muslim ban, but really is not, & trump is paying a price for an action that doesnt make america any safer. i accuse libs of symbolism over substance & the early trump action is more of the same.

2) taking on healthcare, now. Ryan & trump are giving in to the tea party base, that wants obamacare gone, no ifs ands or buts. But healthcare is complicated, its a divisive issue, no democrats will go along. so the GOP is basically setting themselves up to fail at their first big initiative. Stupid.

the main thing im happy about with trump is that he is not hilary. & that is good enough for now, considering the emerging horror of obama sabotaging his successor. the identity politics democrats really are repugnant criminals with no respect for the rule of law.

thank God, literally, for saving the USA from more criminal liberal rule!

:2 cents:

Don't insta-cuckout on him yet. His presidency is being fucking sabotaged so far by the likes of the crazed and demented leftists you see frothing at any mention of his name.

http://i.imgur.com/qheFvvo.jpg

Trump is a winner. Shelve your doubt op.


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