Fear of deportation drives illegal aliens off welfare US
 

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NEW YORK (AP) - A crackdown on illegal immigration under President Donald Trump has driven some poor people to take a drastic step: opt out of federal food assistance because they are fearful of deportation, activists and immigrants say.

People who are not legal residents of the U.S. are not eligible to take part in what is formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

But many poor families include a mix of non-legal residents and legal ones, such as children who have citizenship because they were born in the U.S. In those cases, it is often an adult who is not a legal resident who submits the application.

Some now feel that is too dangerous under a president who has made immigration enforcement a priority. Throughout the U.S., there are accounts of people resisting efforts of nonprofit organizations to sign them up for food stamps, letting benefits lapse or withdrawing from the program because of the perceived risk.

"They don't want to put their name and address on a form for a government public benefit out of fear that they'll be sought out and asked to leave," said Teresa Smith, executive director of Catholic Charities of Orange County, California.

The food stamp program provides monthly payments, typically about $125 per eligible household member, to poor families to buy essential staples. Going without can be an extreme decision, advocates say.

"This means less food in the table, fewer meals in houses where the kids have rights because they are U.S. citizens," said Andrew Hammond, an attorney for Chicago's Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law.

It is not possible to determine the extent of the phenomenon. The number of food stamp recipients has declined as the U.S. recovers from the Great Recession and people could drop out for various reasons.

A 52-year-old woman interviewed in New York City, a Mexican in the country illegally, told The Associated Press she was motivated in January to drop a benefit that was supporting her teenage daughter, a U.S. citizen, purely because she was afraid of being in the food stamp system, which requires applicants to state their immigration status.

"I had been told that it's OK to apply for food stamps. But, for the moment, I don't want to take any risks," said the woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of her immigration status and was introduced to AP through an organization that helps immigrants, the Mexican Coalition of the South Bronx.

"I need it but I have peace of mind because my case is closed," said the woman, who makes $8.50 an hour cleaning houses and lives in small apartment on the Lower East Side of Manhattan.

A Honduran immigrant and single mother with one child in Silver Spring, Maryland, decided not to renew the food stamps she received when they expired in January. "We fear deportation," said the 29-year-old immigrant, who also spoke on condition of anonymity and was introduced to AP through a local nonprofit. She normally earns about $350 per week answering phones at a travel agency but has been working extra hours cleaning homes to make up for the loss of about $150 per month in food stamps.

Mark Krikorian, a well-known advocate for reducing immigration to the U.S., said their situation reflects the fact that many people who come to the country lack the skills to earn enough money here. "It is an attempted moral blackmail to say 'If you Americans don't give me your money, I can't stay here and feed my children,'" he said. "Well, it's your choice. No one made you sneak into the United States."

About 3.9 million citizen children living with noncitizen parents received food stamps in the 2015 fiscal year, the most recent available data, according to the Department of Agriculture, which administers the food stamp program.

The Department of Agriculture says a lower percentage of noncitizens who qualify for the program known as SNAP have historically used the benefit than citizens because of an incorrect perception that it could affect their immigration status or hurt their chances of becoming a U.S. citizen.

"It is important for non-citizens to know they will not be deported, denied entry to the country, or denied permanent status because they apply for or receive SNAP benefits," the agency says on its website.

Driving the most recent fears about the program is an increase in immigration enforcement.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested nearly 40 percent more people suspected of being in the country illegally in the first 100 days under Trump than in the same period a year earlier. The agency said nearly 75 percent of them had been convicted of criminal offenses but "non-criminal arrests" were up by more than 150 percent.

Immigrant advocates see the aversion to food stamps as a reflection of a climate of fear that drives people in the country illegally deeper underground, which in some cases also makes them reluctant to report crimes.

"We should care if people are afraid to interact with institutions that all of us rely on for our health and well-being," said Tanya Broder, senior attorney at the National Immigration Law Center.

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Welfare recipient vs welfare recipients...dats Irwin Jones for ya...

look at that cock-eyed beaner

If the parent(s) of a native born child are in this country illegally but are working to support that child as well as themselves -- why shouldn't they be given temporary residency until that child or the last born child are of majority age (18)?

I think that if they have a good record they should be granted permanent residency, and after that probation, be allowed to apply for naturalized citizenship if they want.

Food Stamps is really no different that the giving of bread out to the masses at the Roman Colosseum. A population that is hungry is dangerous. A hungry child in the USA is an embarrassment -- and a political failure -- regardless of race or status.

[QUOTE=Barry-xlovecam;21816628]If the parent(s) of a native born child are in this country illegally but are working to support that child as well as themselves -- why shouldn't they be given temporary residency until that child or the last born child are of majority age (18)?

I think that if they have a good record they should be granted permanent residency, and after that probation, be allowed to apply for naturalized citizenship if they want.

Food Stamps is really no different that the giving of bread out to the masses at the Roman Colosseum. A population that is hungry is dangerous. A hungry child in the USA is an embarrassment -- and a political failure -- regardless of race or status.[/QUOTY


You're right, it is no different. Emperor's did it to keep the masses happy and let them stay in power for as long as they gave it away. See a coincidence with dems and illegal immigrants? They need their votes, simple as that. It's ok though, Amazon is now offering prime for 5.99 a month for those on Wic, SNAP, welfare etc.........so they can buy more useless things.

Amazon made a mistake with that policy -- it should have been *Prime-Lite*

Full price paying Prime members will be offended and think, perhaps rightfully, that they are either subsidizing these new offerings to the 'underclass' or being really overcharged for the prime service. Lose-Lose not very smart.

I can understand the need to expand markets but this policy is just abusive and insulting.

Why not Prime-Light --Prime video only-- or something like that?

It depends on what job those people are doing. If it's a job an American can do, they should return home and either leave the child or take it with them. What they should not do is remain, deprive an American of a job and even rely on taxpayers to subsidise them.

Unless you want to pay more taxes.

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Deport ALL the illegals or Pay more taxes -- how did you reach that rhetorical conclusion?

The biggest fallacy in your argument is that illegal immigrant is working and not collecting general assistance welfare. She just makes so little that she qualified for Food Stamps for her child only who is a US citizen and is entitled to Food Stamp assistance like any other US American child would be.

This is de facto discrimination more like *Trump fear discrimination* -- who is next? The US citizens that are poor and the US citizens who are sick and will not be able to afford private healthcare insurance. Would you let them suffer and die or pay the cost of their care with tax dollars?

Do you actually think that the the US worker will function well at the low wage jobs that an illegal may take https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapir...tiglitz_theory

No, US workers shirk -- the immigrant (legal or not) might see even a lower paid job as an opportunity he might not have at home. 80% of the time there is no job loss -- there are some exceptions.

Construction trades are one but it is not just illegal and legal workers from Mexico or Central America -- there are plenty of illegal and legal workers from Eastern Europe. In the end, construction quality does not suffer -- building standards are applied equally

Word of the day: Shirk

No biggie! Always more american trash having more babies to take their place at the welfare tit

Battle Royale.
Bootlip welfare bums VS 3 year old Latino welfare babies. :1orglaugh

got to protect your turf?

they are not entitled to claim unless they are adult.

wondering were that extra money is gonna go to?

Wrong. They have same rights as 7 little niglets DeMonique popped so she can stay on welfare her entire life. The only difference is that Pepe will grow up and go working with his dad in construction business and out of 7 DeQuans 2 will be shot, 3 in jail by the time they are 20. 2 will be selling their rapping CDs on 7-11 corner and be on same welfare program big momma was on.

OP is hoping its going to go straight in to his EBT account. :1orglaugh Wrong again.

you support illegals in this country? has nothing to do with blacks! they are here legally! you just wait till i get going on illegals! :) welfare is just the start! jobs and housing are next that is a promise!

They are kids, dumb ass. They don't get to chose who their parents are - hard working illegal Mexican or dead beat gangsta wanna be negro on welfare.. earning beer money on adult webmaster forumsm with his sig. 3/4 of you motherfuckers shouldn't be getting any welfare benefits at all. Healthy 20 year old dipshits gangbanging on street corners and momma claims you as some mental handicap kid. I'd take 100 hard working Mexican who contribute to our society over one useless crip with 7 welfare babies. :thumbsup:321GFY

One think I like about Trump is that eh is stepping on your black balls as well. Hopefully he will go after your housing and EBT cards hard. And send you assholes into labor camps. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you are full of it. see i know the shit they do first hand! damn you support illegals using tax dollars! is this obama???? :helpme:helpme:helpme you think trump is bad? wait and see pence on that shit. something is off here! every time i post about illegals here you are as a border cheerleader lol

Yes, I do know the shit you do. First hand! They bust their asses 12 hours a day, you don't roll out of bed till 12. They may use my tax dollars, but hey also contribute. All you do is spend my tax money and encourage your next generation to do the same. Had it not been for fucked up immigration system they'd legalize and be contributing members of our society. You motherfuckers contribute absolutely nothing. Except for crime and children who don't know their fathers. Parasites.
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Horatio Caine!!!! :thumbsup

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Your post would make sense if it were true.

The leader of the Labour Party in the UK, which is very pro-migration and ethnic minorities, admits. Mass migration has allowed bosses to force down wages by importing workers who will undercut native workers. This implies that the native worker is not out of a job and relying on benefits.

Every low-paid migrant worker is depriving a citizen of a job at a higher wage. That higher wage raises more taxes and takes someone off benefits.

He ignores the obvious truth that 30 years the black woman would have had a job and not doing all the things he claims she now is doing. And the other fact that white kids are doing the same.

That was the case until mass migration and Globalisation took so many jobs from the working classes. Now automation is going to do the same.

The beaner babies of illegals should NOT be considered US citizens. They should all be kicked back into Mexico, where the baby is considered a Mexican even if the thing was born in the US.

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The parents can take them back to Mexico. That would make a lot of illegals think twice about having children.

Shut the fuck up idiot. 30 years ago that woman was giving births to brassmonkeys and sitting on welfare same way he does today. No-one took her job because she didn't have one.
Go play your jigsaw puzzles.

I can give you long list of should haves. But most of them would be anti-constitutional and das rasis.
We can probably find one of yours and brassmonkeys grandparents who were born in Poland or Nigeria and came here "illegally".

You could've shot porn in UK but there wasn't any takers to spread their legs and give creepy camera man a bj for 5 quid. So you found better place to do so.

comedy gold! lol @ supporting illegals
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So 30 years ago the US had the same amount of problems due to unemployment and low pay that it has now.

If that's not correct, you're the idiot.

No, for getting rid of parasite mayate bugs

As one of those who could bring jobs with him, you're correct I was free to move. So instead of shooting porn in the UK, where I had been shooting porn for 20 years, I moved to Czech.

escorpio wrong nick :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh oh man

Our overall unemployment is fairly low, but its 3 times hire among certain minorities. If you guessed it's among Asians or Indians you are the fucking idiot. But we already knew that. And don't give me that bullshit about someones grandfather picking cotton and not having any opportunities. For some reason African immigrants do not have problems finding jobs and ability to rise their kids the right way. Its them domestic parasites who do.

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Stop hanging on bladewire's cock, dumbass.

Many great Americans and Europeans grandparents were born in countries like Poland or Nigeria.

While many dumbfuck losers, like you, grandparents were born in the same country their dumbfuck loser grandkids live in.

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You prove the place of birth is no indication of intelligence.

So your point is?

You didn't bring shit.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Who you fucking kidding? Jobs? You shot poor Czech girls for $5 and got free blowjobs. Building manufacturing plant or medical facility is creating jobs. You took advantage of less fortunate. Go move to Thailand and shoot tranny porn, mr. job creator :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

My point is you are the village idiot. Proved by the squealer, me and number of other people. Your lies, your magic join links.. Talking about dumbfucks who shouldn't have been born period..

:bowdown Horatio Caine

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We have both used the word "mayate" so we must be the same person? Great detective work. You should change your nick to Sherlock Homie.

You should hear my housekeeper saying it :1orglaugh She is also escorpio. :1orglaugh

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I wouldn't know what to do with that even if it was free. :2 cents:
Maybe if you teach me hot to set up those magic join links. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Name me another country where a locally borne child becomes a citizen despite parents non US citizenship. There were rides to Ireland back in 90s - they were giving citizenship to newly born children and residence to their parents. Now, it's not working in EU anymore.

I take you have been banned by google?
Canada, Brazil....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Care to guess why most of them are "new world" countries - founded and inhabited by immigrants? Let me know if need an explanation.

Your 'banned by google' is not polite. I don't talk to people like that. And if I do I have a reason. I have a valuably massive reason to ask you, please, go fuck yourself.

Children born on or after 1 January 2000 to non-German parents acquire German citizenship at birth if at least one parent:

• has a permanent residence permit, and;
• has been residing in Germany for at least eight years.

Legal residency is required in Germany -- change the US laws like this:

• has a permanent residence permit, and;
• has been residing in Germany for at least seven years.
• children born to one parent who is a legal residence permit holder become US citizens if they remain in the United States for seven contiguous years.

Eat dick.

That's hard to make.