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Goethe 06-30-2017 02:16 AM

Illegal Content Fines Germany
 
Social media companies to be fined for not taking down "obviously illegal" content.

Germany votes for 50m euro social media fines - BBC News

Interesting

CHMOD 06-30-2017 03:22 AM

Germany is slowly but surely fallng back into a dictatorship. All in the name of moral highground, like all dictatorships do.

Some people will never learn.

just a punk 06-30-2017 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 21862582)
Germany is slowly but surely fallng back into a dictatorship.

This statement can be applied to ANY county on the globe. People lose their rights and freedoms just everywhere :2 cents:

MaDalton 06-30-2017 05:39 AM

Germany approved the right to marry for homosexuals today - also a sign for really evil dictatorships

MaDalton 06-30-2017 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 21862582)
Germany is slowly but surely fallng back into a dictatorship. All in the name of moral highground, like all dictatorships do.

Some people will never learn.

btw - you bother to read what the law actually does?

Tasty1 06-30-2017 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21862699)
Germany approved the right to marry for homosexuals today - also a sign for really evil dictatorships

It is forbidden in many countries. Should YouTube/facebook now put down that wedding video in the Middle east when they start complaining there? etcetra etcetra.

pimpmaster9000 06-30-2017 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 21862582)
Germany is slowly but surely fallng back into a dictatorship. All in the name of moral highground, like all dictatorships do.

Some people will never learn.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

youtube "full movie" search result gives 180.000.000 videos...180 million LOL

I do not mean to sound like a dictator but they are not exactly putting in an effort to control blatant piracy...

MaDalton 06-30-2017 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21862750)
It is forbidden in many countries. Should YouTube/facebook now put down that wedding video in the Middle east when they start complaining there? etcetra etcetra.

all these companies comply already in China - otherwise they get blocked completely

i am also not perfectly happy with this - but when I post "Bjorn rapes his little sister" on Facebook and you rightfully ask to take this down and Facebook doesn't give a shit (like they very often don't right now) and all your friends and relatives get to read it, you might change your mind eventually. And this is what this is about.

Tasty1 06-30-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21862942)
all these companies comply already in China - otherwise they get blocked completely

i am also not perfectly happy with this - but when I post "Bjorn rapes his little sister" on Facebook and you rightfully ask to take this down and Facebook doesn't give a shit (like they very often don't right now) and all your friends and relatives get to read it, you might change your mind eventually. And this is what this is about.

Yes, there are sometimes problems. In Holland and ex uploaded to YouTube, but they didn't want to investigate who uploaded it. But you see already that people get censored for nothing. And i am sure the laws will used against people with another opinion. Everybody will walk into police stations saying that things are 'hate speech' like cartoons bla bla.

That gay marriage took long in Germany.

Bladewire 06-30-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21862792)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

youtube "full movie" search result gives 180.000.000 videos...180 million LOL

I do not mean to sound like a dictator but they are not exactly putting in an effort to control blatant piracy...

Most if those are fake, and spam.

Bladewire 06-30-2017 12:45 PM

"Justice Minister Heiko Maas singled out Facebook, which has some 30 million users in Germany, saying experience had shown that without political pressure, "the large platform operators would not fulfil their obligations" to take down illegal content."

This is true, porn tubes are a perfect example.

Hard to believe big social media will have to follow laws that tube sites won't.

Someone uploads s popular stolen porn to a tube that that the tube knows is stolen, should be illegal for them to make money from it common sense.

CoolMikey 06-30-2017 12:56 PM

Yea, lets expand censorship under the guise of preventing "hate speech", which really means, "speech expressing opposing viewpoints." :error

Bladewire 06-30-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolMikey (Post 21863389)
Yea, lets expand censorship under the guise of preventing "hate speech", which really means, "speech expressing opposing viewpoints." :error

So you think porn tubes should be able to steal what I create and make money from it in the name of "free speech"?

Broadcasters on TV have to censor what they broadcast so should tube sites , Facebook, etc. Common sense.

Paul Markham 06-30-2017 10:49 PM

Just take YT off German servers. Then we will see how much the Germans support this.

oppoten 06-30-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21862750)
It is forbidden in many countries. Should YouTube/facebook now put down that wedding video in the Middle east when they start complaining there? etcetra etcetra.

StefanG doesn't care about reducing the birthrate in non-white countries.

Because non-whites weren't eevil Nazis, ya see. Only whites are supremely eevil, because whites are...superior??

oppoten 06-30-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21862942)
but when I post "Bjorn rapes his little sister"

I do it with great glee, because I'm not posting "Mohammed rapes his little sister" (or Mohammed rapes Bjorn's sister).

Gotta love them rapey Bjorns.

pimpmaster9000 07-01-2017 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21863356)
Most if those are fake, and spam.

yes but the point is they are not even trying to combat piracy...type in "full movie" and you will get at least 10 legit full movies on the first page...they are not even making a half assed try...

thommy 07-01-2017 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21863350)
Yes, there are sometimes problems. In Holland and ex uploaded to YouTube, but they didn't want to investigate who uploaded it. But you see already that people get censored for nothing. And i am sure the laws will used against people with another opinion. Everybody will walk into police stations saying that things are 'hate speech' like cartoons bla bla.

That gay marriage took long in Germany.

what have censorship to do with that?

i mean we should all agree that there IS illegal content in the web and there is a lot of fraud, lies, mopping and even more dangerous stuff around.
should we allow to put manuals for selfmade bombs in the net, yes?
if so i hope one of this bombs is exploding right in your ass and not in mine.

you guys are the best example - you are brainwashed with lies and as soon as someone touches YOUR privacy, steals YOUR content or puts a picture of YOUR wife´s pussy in the net - you want to behead people.

you are so double tounged and do not even notice that you contradict yourselfs in every second sentence.

poor world !!!

BaldBastard 07-01-2017 03:36 AM

The whole user uploaded content thing needs ass shoved

You host it, your liable for it. Its very simple end of story.

In the days past the nut cases of the world were limited to standing on milk crates on street corners as a society we need to keep them there. Basically every "Radical Terrorism" the excuse is.. was radicalized on social media.

Fuck the social media companies, fuck the tubes, if you cant afford to monitor what's on your sites.. go out of business.

MaDalton 07-01-2017 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21864241)
StefanG doesn't care about reducing the birthrate in non-white countries.

Because non-whites weren't eevil Nazis, ya see. Only whites are supremely eevil, because whites are...superior??

you need help - that's all I can say

MaDalton 07-01-2017 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21864241)
StefanG doesn't care about reducing the birthrate in non-white countries.

Because non-whites weren't eevil Nazis, ya see. Only whites are supremely eevil, because whites are...superior??


this is btw a great example why GFY has gone to shit

not because there can be potentially heated debates over some law or whatever with people having different opinions on something - which has always been the case on GFY. And I'm fine with this, gotta have a thick skin on GFY.

But then there's the rightwing nazi bunch including you that attacks on a personal level, completely unsubstantiated, completely out of context, that thas driven a ton of people away from this board because they are sick of this behaviour from no name, anonymous keyboard monkeys.

I swear: If we met in person, you would not even have a marble sized left testicle to say that to my face what you write here - just like Johnnnyclips who didn't say shit when we met but started right after again when he was back behind his keyboard.

People like you - losers in real life, blaming everybody but yourself for your failures - especially everybody that looks a little different cause they are easier to recognize - are the prime example why a law like this is necessary: Because from the anonymity of your basement you can attack people without fearing consequences - yet.

Have a nice weekend. Use it, go out, meet people. Talk to them. Have a beer. Life will look differently.

thommy 07-01-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21864532)
this is btw a great example why GFY has gone to shit

not because there can be potentially heated debates over some law or whatever with people having different opinions on something - which has always been the case on GFY. And I'm fine with this, gotta have a thick skin on GFY.

But then there's the rightwing nazi bunch including you that attacks on a personal level, completely unsubstantiated, completely out of context, that thas driven a ton of people away from this board because they are sick of this behaviour from no name, anonymous keyboard monkeys.

I swear: If we met in person, you would not even have a marble sized left testicle to say that to my face what you write here - just like Johnnnyclips who didn't say shit when we met but started right after again when he was back behind his keyboard.

People like you - losers in real life, blaming everybody but yourself for your failures - especially everybody that looks a little different cause they are easier to recognize - are the prime example why a law like this is necessary: Because from the anonymity of your basement you can attack people without fearing consequences - yet.

Have a nice weekend. Use it, go out, meet people. Talk to them. Have a beer. Life will look differently.

i think your words will not help - he himself posted once that he is sick and just found the reason in jews and other stupid racist stuff.

you can´t help such people - they are born with that damage already and they will die with it. evolution is trying out many things and some huge evolution errors are part of that try and error system.

celandina 07-01-2017 07:33 AM

Of course all the Jihadi propaganda and ISIS kill videos will remain as free speech, but grow a funny moustache and post it and you get fined...:error:1orglaugh

Bladewire 07-01-2017 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21864376)
yes but the point is they are not even trying to combat piracy...type in "full movie" and you will get at least 10 legit full movies on the first page...they are not even making a half assed try...

Some older movies are uploaded by the studios because they make more on ads on YT than they do other on other platforms like DVD , etc.

A lot of the "full movie" results are pay traps, you click and it says buy the movie from YT. This is why YT cracks down, they make money now from selling.

oppoten 07-01-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21864532)
I swear: If we met in person, you would not even have a marble sized left testicle to say that to my face what you write here

No really, I would. The collective suicide of Germany and Europe concerns and worries me, and I would never keep quiet about it. And if you punch me in the face, so what? It wouldn't change my opinion.

Have a nice weekend also. I'm not personally attacking you, it's more about what you (and Thommy) represent.

Tasty1 07-01-2017 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21864412)
what have censorship to do with that?

i mean we should all agree that there IS illegal content in the web and there is a lot of fraud, lies, mopping and even more dangerous stuff around.
should we allow to put manuals for selfmade bombs in the net, yes?
if so i hope one of this bombs is exploding right in your ass and not in mine.

you guys are the best example - you are brainwashed with lies and as soon as someone touches YOUR privacy, steals YOUR content or puts a picture of YOUR wife´s pussy in the net - you want to behead people.

you are so double tounged and do not even notice that you contradict yourselfs in every second sentence.

poor world !!!

Well, when i was younger i had a book how to make firework / bombs. I bought the ingredients at the Wholesale and blew up some great things. One time they had to evecuate the school when i made a stinking-bomb. Making bombs is easy. But you might have the illusion that now, when we even have internet, that it can be stopped LOL. Mein Kampf is forbidden in Holland, but i can still buy it in Germany or read it online.

The video i talked about was on Facebook, an ex uploaded a movie and Facebook took it down but didn't want to investigate who uploaded it. That went t0 court and thanks to publicity the journalist got the info. Mostly they ignore those request.. Ofcourse that sort of things must be banned from Facebook and the tubes. Facebook didn't cooperate, you can make rules for that. But you could see whem celeb tapes where leaked, even tube sites put them down when i lawyer went after it. The last years in Holland the judges are harder against people who spread private videos, even getting time in jail. That stops a lot of people publishing pictures and videos of their ex girlfriends. No need for censorship for that.

I am more afraid of my privacy regarding governments than anything else.

MaDalton 07-01-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21864721)
No really, I would. The collective suicide of Germany and Europe concerns and worries me, and I would never keep quiet about it. And if you punch me in the face, so what? It wouldn't change my opinion.

Have a nice weekend also. I'm not personally attacking you, it's more about what you (and Thommy) represent.

I never punch people - you have no idea what I represent - and if you don't want to attack me personally, then don't use my name to insinuate things that are not true.


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