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Trump's Dept of Health accidently released data that shows Obamacare isn't imploding..
Opps.. This is a bad week for King Dumb Dumb.. They've spent all this time trying to build the narrative that Obamacare is bad, is imploding ect..ect.. The people fought back on facebook a few days ago, Hillary laid the smack down when Republicans tried to call her out yesterday.. and now this...
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...snt-imploding/ The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services, last week released a report about a wonky aspect of the Affordable Care Act related to insurance payments. Tucked away in the report, however, was evidence that the health insurance marketplaces set up by Obamacare were relatively stable in 2016. Contrary to the “death-spiral” narrative, the CMS report found that the mix of healthy and sick people buying insurance on the Obamacare marketplaces in 2016 was surprisingly similar to those who enrolled in 2015. The Dept of Health released data that shows people aren't abandoning Obamacare but rather the marketplace is very stable.. It's not in a death spiral as anyone with a brain already knew. That lines was always bullshit lies from Republicans and now the data proves it. Once again Republicans have lived to you..Trump has lied to you.. My question to the regular GFY red hats.. Health care is not a partisan issue, you need it, I need it, yet you guys running around bashing Obamacare because Republicans tell you to.. Now it keeps getting proven they are lying to you.. Deep down in side don't you feel like you are being used like the fools you are? GET THE LEAKER!!! GET THE LEAKER!!! |
insurance companies dropping out in droves because they can't make it work... doctors dropping out in droves because they can't make it work, premiums going up and up, deductibles going up - costs increasing, options decreasing dramatically... but enrollment (because its required by law) is stable in 2016
makes sense. sounds like success to me. |
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You are just being played the fool and are repeating lies. Don't be a dumb dumb, think for yourself not what you are told to think.. Again, look at the states where there are problems and in every case it's because Republicans in control of those states have done everything possible to keep you from getting affordable insurance. Read and learn for yourself.. The states with the biggest Obamacare struggles spent years undermining the law - LA Times |
Don't continue to be played the fool squealer, look at the history at what Republicans did in their own states to undermine Obamacare, then look at what "leaders" did in states where Obamacare works just fine..
Open your eyes and stop accepting bullshit and look at reality of what has taken place. Among other things, they blocked expansion of Medicaid coverage for the poor, erected barriers to enrollment and refused to move health plans into the Obamacare marketplaces, a key step to bringing in healthier consumers. Those decisions left the marketplaces in many red states with poorer, sicker customers than they otherwise might have had. Now, consumers are paying the price, as insurers seek major rate hikes or stop selling plans altogether. Republicans wanted to fuck you over Squealer so you would blame it on Democrats. When will you guys wake up and see you continue to be fucked in the ass by the guys you keep voting for.. |
Crockett, I'm resisting the urge to insult your intelligence. Here's the deal: Obamacare was funded illegally. The whole thing is unconstitutional. Squealer is correct- insurance companies are dropping out. You claim people are still insured and that may be true, but look at all the places that now only have ONE PROVIDER. That's called monopoly, causing prices to skyrocket.
Read THIS if you truly want to know what's going on: EXCLUSIVE: OBAMA ILLEGALLY ROBBED FANNIE, FREDDIE TO FUND OBAMACARE :pimp |
Republicans are just flat out lying about Obamacare...
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All the insurance companies have pulled profits year after year under the ACA, they're pulling out in the South where their government subsidy is being pulled by southern red states, and they still make a profit.
Very pathetic red state politicians blame the ACA when it's the GOP pulling the funding that's taking away coverage in those states. If people in those states only knew... those red states would turn blue in 2018 midterms! Let's hope there's an initiative by Dems to educate those GOP voters. |
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CONFIRMED: TREASURY SAYS OBAMA STOLE FROM FANNIE, FREDDIE INVESTORS TO FUND OBAMACARE :pimp |
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Look at Paul Ryan as perfect example.. He hadn't gone back to his home state to talk to his constituents in well over a year. The people who voted him into office he has ignored. He just went back this week but instead of talking to the people he represents, he went to a "safe space" at a company who gives him campaign money and took a bunch of per-screened questions from workers at that company and then claimed it was a "Town Hall" meeting.. This is the same story playing out by Republicans all over right now, they are ignoring their constituents, literally hiding from them and then lying to them. Yet come election time these people will vote for these guys yet again because they are Republican.. You have to call it what it is Idiocracy.. Yet guys like Squealer will believe what they say instead of looking at very easy to find facts.. |
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Perfect example is Acepimp right here.. He's just full of hate and party rhetoric. There is literally nothing anyone could ever say to him to make him think for himself. He will accept anything he's told by right wing media and politicians and never even attempt to verify anything for him self. He lives in a make believe fairyland of denial.. It has to be a mental illness, no one in their right mind would so willfully support things that harm themselves but we see it time and time again from people like acepimp. Like a teenage girl who cuts herself for attention.. The guy actually posts links to infowars as if it were the truth.. No mentally stable person would do that. |
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You may want to get some actual facts instead of readin VOX and Huff post . :pimp |
^^^ Multiple fake nics are against GFY's TOS
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Crockett, besides crying a river, what are you attempting to accomplish ?
If Hilary won she would have won. Why continue to bash something you have no authority to change. |
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showing the total number of card holders - doesn't have anything to do with the total number of people getting care, the costs, rising premiums and deductibles and fewer and fewer and fewer choices. just the first random more or less non-partisan link in google More insurers abandon Obamacare. Who might be next? - Apr. 5, 2017 some more... Counties in the USA growing with NO insurance carriers in the marketplace to choose from. and... competition does NOTHING to lower costs... it increases costs further. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e-insurer.html |
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Do you ever respond with an intelligent debate? Or just scream fake nic to everyone with facts you don't like, even though facts are facts? No one takes you seriously. :pimp |
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I mean Jesus fucking Christ could you ever imagine that in this country, that a group of people would willfully ignore the fact that an adversary hacked our elections and then call it fake news, just because it benefited their team? These people have gone fucking insane, they ignore science, they refuse to learn from history, they just keep trying the same failed ideologies over and over. These guys are purposely lying about things that will have drastic consequences on the future of this country and the world for that matter, all so they can get dumb brainwashed people to keep voting for them with out question.. We either fight for our country with words now or bullets later... |
Obamacare is required by law? Since when? I didn't get the memo.
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Do you live here? then you know nothing other than what RT is telling you. I live in CA and premiums are sky high. 400 per person in their early 30's with no problems, 5k deductible and ONE, that's right ONE provider now. Kaiser. Who wants that shitty company. Sutter Health who I used to have with them, left. BC/BS two companies here both left. United Health is gone. Dignity Health is gone. Adventist health is gone. There is ONE choice and it's shitty.
Don't comment until you know what is actually happening here. Before the ACA I had BS for 127 month with 250 deductible 2 million cap. You're telling me THIS is better LOL. Next thing you'll tell me the 30 cent per gallon gas tax hike coming soon is a good thing. Or the 400 I pay to renew tags every year. Or maybe the new tax they are putting on EV's now. I thought CA wanted good EV's and renewable energy. Now they are losing revenue so they want to tax tax tax. Same old shit. Still can't get the budget into the black. Guess that is what happens when 1/3 of all Americans on Medicaid live in CA, and 1/3 of all CA's are on Medi-cal LOL. Pathetic. The state doesn't pay for those either. 18% is what they pay. The Fed picks up the rest 700 billion per year. |
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Obama, law enforcement and CIA, NSA etc knew about it and UNDER OBAMA's WATCH, did absolutely nothing at all. Obama did nothing Why? Because the narrative and firm belief was that Hillary was going to win. Why fan the flames, when you're gonna win anyway. Thats just a decent tactical decision. BUT NOW.... It's a massive issue AFTER HER LOSS. It wasn't an issue at all in all the months BEFORE HER LOSS It wasn't an issue at all BEFORE democrats got murdered on the state level shortly after. It's only an issue after the Democrats election blood bath. Quote:
The "fake news" is the Trumps team colluded with Russia narrative which has been going on for over a year now, there is still zero evidence other than Liberal tears... and the FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI and basically all the nations intelligence agencies saying that its not true. If it can be proven... great. He should be thrown under a prison. No one should be fucking with the election process like that. Just as Hillary shouldn't have been cheating in the debates... but your huge concern for the integrity of the election process seems to stop short of doing whats right... and is more oriented to "doing whats right for my team". |
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1st of the DNC didn't even release that they had been hacked until June 2016. Wikileaks then waited until July of 2016 just before the DNC convention to make their release. At this point it wasn't even known Russia had also hack the RNC. It was the end of July before the FBI announced it had started a investigation. It wasn't until September that Congress held a briefing and pointed the finger at Russian intelligence. Yet another email dump came in Oct from wiki leaks. The election was in Nov and the CIA didnt release their report until December. As soon as the CIA verified that yes Russia did attempt to attack our election process Obama followed up by placing sanctions on Russia and kicking diplomats out. He also said we would be doing things covertly behind the scenes. So why do you make shit up squealer it's almost like your nick has changed to Robbie, Vendzilla or Joshamo... |
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Nevermind the fact that the Treasury Dept CONFIRMED it was funded illegally. EXCLUSIVE: OBAMA ILLEGALLY ROBBED FANNIE, FREDDIE TO FUND OBAMACARE CONFIRMED: TREASURY SAYS OBAMA STOLE FROM FANNIE, FREDDIE INVESTORS TO FUND OBAMACARE And now's the part where I get accused of being a fake nic redhat full of hate, right? Spare me and learn the facts please. Learn to recognize a money scam and consumer ripoffs. :pimp |
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See man, the thing is.. they do actually report facts. Why is that so hard to believe? :pimp |
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Yes, so lets say it happened in June. Not a problem for DEMOCRATS at all.. in June. It was only a problem in December when they were voted out of power. Then suddenly it became the only issue and STILL not direct evidence of any Trump/Russia collusion and all intelligence agencies say it over and over again. |
Crockett is right. The key points from the Health and Human Services report (which can be found here) are:
1. The transitional reinsurance and permanent risk adjustment programs functioned smoothly for the 2016 benefit year, as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act compliant market continued to grow. 2. The transitional reinsurance program continues to provide significant protection to individual market issuers with exceptionally high-cost enrollees. 3. Both the transitional reinsurance program and the permanent risk adjustment program are working as intended in compensating plans that enrolled higher-risk individuals, thereby protecting issuers against adverse selection within a market within a state and supporting them in offering products that serve all types of consumers. |
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When will it drill in to American heads that insurance prices have steadily been rising world wide?
Life insurance exodus as policy premiums rise in price life and disability insurance premiums climbed 215 per cent in four years and income protection premiums jumped 82 per cent, while new figures from industry regulator APRA show that overall premium income has slid almost 20 per cent in two year |
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Only a Liberal would endorse passing an unread law that forces everyone to purchase insurance under the threat of penalty that they didn't want, need, or asked for.
Obamacare was pushed through the CBO with fake numbers and the shortages were stolen from other government programs. Obamacare was never sustainable. "You got Grubered". "It's not who we are". |
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WHAT exactly was Obama to do? Trump was already the president elect by the time the CIA/NSA report was released squarely pointing the finger at Russia. Was Obama supposed to start a war start attacking Russian assets when he's out of office in a month? You are being fucking ridiculous and are not equipped apparently to handle the reality of the situation of what he could do as a out going president with a new one coming in with that short of a time scale. WTF has Trump done about it? Not a fucking thing except claim everything is fake news.. Yet you ignore this to "Blame Obama". |
America will always have the highest health care costs until they get the system the rest of the civilised world uses.
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just in this thread you are pushing bullshit that obamacare is not imploding. thats not a fact dumb lib. thats a fairy tale. you have done nothing for 8+ years but spew lie after lie after lie on this forum, so bad people call you crockett science, crock-o-shit. yet you endure with your endless quacking of fairy tales & hallucinations. you won't reply to my comment. you will just gin up another dumb thread with dumb liberal narratives based on lies, & pass it along as what you call facts. too dumb to see you havent the foggiest idea what a fact is. idiot dumbfuck. :1orglaugh |
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you should be embarrassed. but you're too dumb to be. every post you make re-affirms you are the dumbest dumb lib on GFY. They should give you an award for it. :1orglaugh |
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did you forget obama imposed sanctions on russia, & kicked out their diplomats while he was walking out the door dumb lib? dont let FACTS get in the way of literally every single one of your stupid deluded thoughts. idiot dumbfuck. :1orglaugh |
OK; You are right, the HHS Report issued by the Trump Administration is Fake News!
Three more Republican senators are expressing and unwillingness to support McConnell's Reconciliation Health Care Bill (recall Obamacare) and the Republican leadership is horrified that they will need to work with the Democrats to fix the ACA. Seems that these Republican senators from rural states are the stumbling block -- their poorer rural populations are more dependent on Medicaid revenue to support their health providers -- isn't that ironic ... |
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Average Monthly Premiums Per Person in the Individual Market | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation Now if his price is for a family then that's different. Now on the other hand, Cali is a big ass state and population is spread very differently between north and south so he could be in a rural area that gets screwed by not having a big enough pool of people. Who knows, not enough details. |
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