Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21905371)

Did you guys see his documentary "Michael Moore in Trumpland"

He pretty much shows why Hillary and the Democrats lost so badly in 2016 and gives a blueprint for Democrats to regain their status.
Spoiler: The key to Democrats making a comeback has nothing to do with obsessing over Russia

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21905371)

Spoiler: The key to Democrats making a comeback has nothing to do with obsessing over Russia

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21905413)

i agree - but that is not only a problem of the democrats because they never had that much power to change a few things would should be changed urgently .

but this also appears in parts to the reps.
the problem with just 2 parties and a very little number of independents does not make a democracy.

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21905464)

There are around 50 political parties to choose from in the U.S. and around 30 or so had nominees for the Presidency in the last Presidential election. The Democratic and Republican parties are the two most popular of all of the parties. It is also true that U.S. is not a Demorcracy but instead is a Republic.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21905536)

i know that but i ask myself where the others parties are in the senat and congress.

the most heard argument of trump voter is that they wanted a change.
so why they vote the same king with just another dress?

the election system is a big mess for me and it can never bring a real democratic result what represents ALL americans and their worries.

so the very first a president should do it to take care that this will be changed.
look what macron did in france is going exactly in this direction.
til that happens america should not praise itself as the example for democracy and human rights. in fact there is no country in the western world what could be a worse example (let´s here except turkey)

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21905413)

i agree - but that is not only a problem of the democrats because they never had that much power to change a few things would should be changed urgently .

but this also appears in parts to the reps.
the problem with just 2 parties and a very little number of independents does not make a democracy.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21905749)

motherfuckerly...

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21905536)

i know that but i ask myself where the others parties are in the senat and congress.

the most heard argument of trump voter is that they wanted a change.
so why they vote the same king with just another dress?

the election system is a big mess for me and it can never bring a real democratic result what represents ALL americans and their worries.

so the very first a president should do it to take care that this will be changed.
look what macron did in france is going exactly in this direction.
til that happens america should not praise itself as the example for democracy and human rights. in fact there is no country in the western world what could be a worse example (let´s here except turkey)

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21905371)

Did you guys see his documentary "Michael Moore in Trumpland"

He pretty much shows why Hillary and the Democrats lost so badly in 2016 and gives a blueprint for Democrats to regain their status.
Spoiler: The key to Democrats making a comeback has nothing to do with obsessing over Russia

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21905413)

i agree - but that is not only a problem of the democrats because they never had that much power to change a few things would should be changed urgently .

but this also appears in parts to the reps.
the problem with just 2 parties and a very little number of independents does not make a democracy.

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21905551)

Americans vote for whom they want to vote. All of the Presidential nominees from the last election received votes, including Rose Ann Barr. Those that spend the most money on ads/exposure are almost 100% of the time the person elected to office. The other nominees from other than the two most popular parties simply cannot raise enough money to pay for exposure.

Until laws are passed insuring that all nominees are equally funded for exposure the results will continue to be the same. I do not think such laws will ever be passed as it is the two major parties that would have to pass them and they won't unless the public demands that it be done and the public does not take enough interest in politics/elections to demand that it be done, the nominee that raises the most money will continue to be elected almost 100% of the time.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21906490)

Americans vote for whom they want to vote!!!

You then go onto explain why they don't vote for who they want.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21905248)

Looking forward to it, you bet it will be truthful, realistic and full of facts, without forcing his own opinion throughout. Michael Moore is the personification of unbiased and objective reporting.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21906484)

It shows why Americans vote for being fucked up the ass. Who ever they vote for.

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21906817)

No I do not. Registered voters vote for whomever they choose to vote for.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21907054)

I don't feel that way. I voted for real change. I voted for Trump for the economy. And it's a vote I'm glad I made. The economy is roaring, GOOD jobs are being created, illegal immigration is way down...overall I'm happy with what Trump has done in the realm of rolling back over-regulation. Looking forward to tax reform.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21907066)

I am glad you finally listened to my advice do not waste your vote on Johnson. I did not know that until now as you were strongly opposed to my reasoning (where I asked you not to waste your important vote on Garry).

Trump train :thumbsup

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21905749)

I like how he names it 11/9 this must trigger a lot of red hats...I will watch and enjoy and smirk motherfuckerly...

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21907057)

I was trying to explain why they are led by the nose.


That's a sad state of affairs. Then they shouldn't moan when their country fucks up.


Because they live in the past.


If you include the whole world you're spot on. If you only include the West. You're wrong.

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I'll add here a rider. If there is a god he's not one that got a group on Earth following him or knowing what he's about. All the religious texts are clueless about the existence of a god.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21907138)

So yeah, I voted Trump. I didn't vote "Republican" because Trump isn't a "real" Republican. He's a blue-dog Democrat with an "R" in front of his name.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21907138)

He's a blue-dog Democrat

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21907162)

The redhats have been significantly triggered! Look at their echo chamber in this thread alone, amazing...

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21907450)

well i would say he is not really human.
so netxt time better vote for a monkey.



well but he shows you his view with VERY accurate researched numbers. none of you trump voters have that because you get you information ONLY from one side.



sure he will be destroyed because

1. he is a liar
2. he is a liar
3. he is a liar
4. he is dumber than dumb
5. he gives a flying fuck on on your or anyone elses exitstance
6. he is EXACTLY the opposite of a destroyer of the establishment - he BEGS to be part of it and that´s why they do with him what they want


one question: have you EVER seen a board of trump voters what are critical with him?
i did not yet - and that is your fucking problem and the rest of us call that BRAINWASHED

you are criticizing the media for fake news?
great !
why don´t you see the fake news your "reliable media" shits on you ?

you have so many sources where you can see that trump is the most unwanted president in the us history - why do you believe in sources where only "registered rep voters" are subscribed ?

i do not really think you are one of this "hopeless" guys - you seems to have a bit more in your brain as some other helpless creatures here.

i really wonder why do you not wake up from that dream what is just based on lies and senseless promises.
i think you are smarter than that what you show us here.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21907054)

I don't feel that way. I voted for real change. I voted for Trump for the economy. And it's a vote I'm glad I made. The economy is roaring, GOOD jobs are being created, illegal immigration is way down...overall I'm happy with what Trump has done in the realm of rolling back over-regulation. Looking forward to tax reform.

The big stumbling block of course...is Congress. But that's the way our country's govt. is set up. It is frustrating sometimes, but very wise.

I'm pretty damn happy about it. My adult business is at it's highest since 2007 and I have branched off into a very lucrative mainstream business that would not have been possible under the previous administration's policy's.
The energy sector of our economy is now bigger than ever before and we not only are "energy independent"...but the new laws that Trump signed a few weeks ago are going to allow the U.S. to start REPLACING Russian energy with U.S. energy for Europe as well.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21907138)

It was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. I doubt we'll ever see it again. And if the establishment has their way...Trump will be destroyed.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21907429)

what is your point in that?
i don´t get it.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21905248)

Looking forward to it, you bet it will be truthful, realistic and full of facts, without forcing his own opinion throughout. Michael Moore is the personification of unbiased and objective reporting.

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21907957)

You are the crappiest dutch ever. Please tell me you are not a native citizen of The Netherlands.

Michael Moore is doing some kind of propaganda, right, but I actually like all of his movies I've seen so far.
Sicko, Fahrenheit 9/11 and especially Bowling for Columbine.


nico-t, you little annoying prick, Go Fuck Yourself :2 cents: :thumbsup :321GFY :pimp

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21908116)