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2MuchMark 08-16-2017 07:22 AM

Vice documentary, "Charlottesville: Race & Terror.
 

Rochard 08-16-2017 07:28 AM

I saw some of this on the news last night - it's utterly disgusting. Grown men marching around with tiki torches yelling 'We will not be replaced by Jews" and "Blood and soil". I utterly fail to understand such non-sense.

2MuchMark 08-16-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21957238)
I saw some of this on the news last night - it's utterly disgusting. Grown men marching around with tiki torches yelling 'We will not be replaced by Jews" and "Blood and soil". I utterly fail to understand such non-sense.

Watch the whole thing. It's heart wrenching, it's scary, and its fucking unbelievable.

klinton 08-16-2017 08:03 AM

KGB is so happy how you get divided:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

MFCT 08-17-2017 02:12 AM

Thanks for posting. I watched it all. Fascinating video, and amazing that they can make a documentary about this event so soon after.

This video clearly portrays that there were various different groups present at the event, who held such differing viewpoints that they were basically attack-on-site to each other. And, as we already know, there were many incidents of violence. One of which was lethal.

Typically, in a heated protest event, police are actively involved and work diligently to keep the groups separated to minimize violence. However, at this particular event, and one crucial factor that this video does not address, was that apparently the police had orders to stand down.

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The stand down was confirmed by the ACLU who quoted a police source saying, ?We?ll not intervene until given command to do so.?
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So at this event, groups who were attack-on-site to each other were allowed to literally rub shoulders next to each other. What do you think is going to happen? What possibly else could happen eventually, except violent encounters?

The police not intervening at this event was immediately apparent to those present. They didn't have to wait until days later to read about it on some news site to become enlightened to this fact.

So, this being the case, if someone at this event were to find himself/herself in a situation where they have somehow gotten away from their own group, and are now surrounded by a different, hostile group, the person is already aware that they're on their own. They already know that the police aren't going to step in and save them.

Being hopelessly outnumbered, knowing that there's a hundred people around you that want to give you at least one good solid punch, its not outside the realm of possibility that he/she could quite possibly be beaten to death in this situation.

The only possible hope one could have, if found in such a situation, would be to get away from that group as quickly as possibe. Especially if the group has already begun attacking you. Being in a car is going to be of little help. In seconds, a window can be broken, the door unlocked, and dozens of hands can drag a person out of a car and beat the person senseless in no time.

I do not in any way, shape, or form condone what the person who drove the car through the crowd did. But, if you were in a situation where there's a very real danger, seconds away, from being beaten to death by an angry crowd, what would your choice be?

The bigger point is, though, is that if the police weren't told to stand down, if people had felt they were generally safe at this event due to a strong active police presence, would anyone feel the need to panic in a bad situation and floor the gas pedal of a vehicle?

It is my opinion that, had there been a strong active police presence at this event who were managing the groups and keeping them separate, that this event would have been nothing but a small 2-paragraph filler story on page 7 of any newspaper.

:2 cents:

Tasty1 08-17-2017 11:10 AM

It where two groups of crazy people protesting against each other. One protested illegaly. And both are dangerous and dividing countries.

The journalist where right at the point where the clash happened. They where expecting it. Where was the police? Looks like some people wanted to let this go out of hand. I would ask for an investigation to look who organized what and what the mayors influence was.

I don't know why that guy was there in a car. But if i was in a car and they saw i wasn't one of them, i would hit the gas. But it looked he was just trying to kill people, but haven't seen different camera angles.

Nazis, you must be crazy to want nazi clothes and support that ideoligy.

EonBlue 08-17-2017 11:24 AM





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oppoten 08-17-2017 06:38 PM

Won't watch the documentary.

That's the same "reporter" who gave the jew Tanya Gersh a free pass when she tried to extort Spencer's mom.

bronco67 08-17-2017 06:43 PM

So there's a planned nine more white power rallies this Saturday across the country. Before Charlotesville, the only people who really knew about the rally were the ones at the flashpoint. The whole country didn't find out about it until shit went off the rails.

You can look at Charlottesville as an advertisement for anyone who looked at that mayhem and said "hey, how do I get in on that sweet riot action?" Every swinging dick (from both sides) will drive to the closest one of those nine cities, ready to brawl. It's going to be like the Superbowl/Thunderdome of political activism.

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TheDynasty 08-17-2017 07:18 PM

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MFCT 08-18-2017 02:29 AM

Now this is interesting. If this is true...the more we find out about this event, the weirder it gets.

"Police: Charlottesville Was ‘Inside Job’ To Ignite Race War"

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“We [Charlotesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.“
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Why would they want to start a race war?

EonBlue 08-18-2017 09:51 AM

This guy is awesome. Very interesting things he says:

https://www.facebook.com/mrcharlespa...dU&pnref=story

Sad that he is worried about Facebook removing the video.


Hey **********, since your original post was a video from VICE, what do think of this other piece from VICE?

Let's Get Rid of Mount Rushmore



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2MuchMark 08-18-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 21962392)
This guy is awesome. Very interesting things he says:

https://www.facebook.com/mrcharlespa...dU&pnref=story

Sad that he is worried about Facebook removing the video.


Hey **********, since your original post was a video from VICE, what do think of this other piece from VICE?

Let's Get Rid of Mount Rushmore



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It's a pretty good piece. Did you read it? In case you didn't, this part sums it up nicely:

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This is not to say that I am against independent art and artists representing historical figures in ways that honor, embrace, challenge, and contextualize our collective past. Nor am I down on museums, where people can go and investigate, explore, and research history in depth. What I am suspicious of are monuments produced by the state, which tend to flatten out nuances and turn flawed individuals into tools of propaganda that bolster a kind of religious patriotism. This stuff can be incredibly dangerous for democracy, especially when the same ascendant movement that deifies one set of (white) leaders sees people of color as sub-human.
And to be clear, I'm actually against statues being taken down.

If a statue is erected of some person hailed as some kind of hero today, but is later discovered to be a scum bag, leaving it in place can be a reminder of the bad things he did.

Don't remove the statue, just update the plaque. "When this statue was put in place, we thought he was a great man. Today we know the truth that he did this and that and the other bad thing. This statue and plaque remains to serve history, and promise to everyone that this will never happen again", etc etc etc.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" said that Santayana guy...

Peace.

EonBlue 08-18-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21962596)
It's a pretty good piece. Did you read it? In case you didn't, this part sums it up nicely:



And to be clear, I'm actually against statues being taken down.

If a statue is erected of some person hailed as some kind of hero today, but is later discovered to be a scum bag, leaving it in place can be a reminder of the bad things he did.

Don't remove the statue, just update the plaque. "When this statue was put in place, we thought he was a great man. Today we know the truth that he did this and that and the other bad thing. This statue and plaque remains to serve history, and promise to everyone that this will never happen again", etc etc etc.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" said that Santayana guy...

Peace.

Yes of course I read it. I wouldn't post something without having read it first.

Sure he makes some good points but none of them nullify his main point of getting rid of Mount Rushmore. (His original piece actually said "blow up" Mount Rushmore before he edited it.)

And as more people actually take up his cause to "get rid of" it (by blowing it up of course), his finer points will be lost and forgotten as the mob grows and becomes more agitated. He as an individual may seem rational but the mob will not be.


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Matt 26z 08-18-2017 11:42 AM

Vice wants to blow up Mt Rushmore (they had to edit the headline after their readers got mad at the violent term "blow up").

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9...mount-rushmore

escorpio 08-18-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21961051)

:1orglaugh What a ridiculous analogy. It is truly laughable that anyone involved in that Charlottesville shitshow could see themselves this way.

Bladewire 08-18-2017 01:39 PM

But but... Hillary's E-mails!


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BENGHAZI!





EonBlue 08-18-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 21962833)
:1orglaugh What a ridiculous analogy. It is truly laughable that anyone involved in that Charlottesville shitshow could see themselves this way.

You're right. These alt-left, antifa types see themselves more like Stalin taking on the nazis.



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2MuchMark 08-18-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 21962647)
Yes of course I read it. I wouldn't post something without having read it first.

Sure he makes some good points but none of them nullify his main point of getting rid of Mount Rushmore. (His original piece actually said "blow up" Mount Rushmore before he edited it.)

And as more people actually take up his cause to "get rid of" it (by blowing it up of course), his finer points will be lost and forgotten as the mob grows and becomes more agitated. He as an individual may seem rational but the mob will not be.


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I don't think he really wants to get rid of it. He's just asking "what if", like the title says. And yes, "what if we blow up mount rushmore" is too strong a title.

nico-t 08-20-2017 03:40 PM

the media is the one poking them 24/7 and the idiots all fall for it.

racism barely exists anymore in the western world, and the establishment controlled media is making sure that isn't gonna happen anymore... divide and conquer.

eric_wahlberg 08-20-2017 11:27 PM

Media has completely lost track of people's views. It has become a leftist agent, nothing more.

EonBlue 08-22-2017 01:04 PM

Another very smart man with an interesting take on this stuff:





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NewNick 08-23-2017 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 21962833)
:1orglaugh What a ridiculous analogy. It is truly laughable that anyone involved in that Charlottesville shitshow could see themselves this way.

Nonsense, it illuminates the danger of Trumps slimey rhetoric , the" there were bad people on many sides" bullshit.

Millions died when a country was lured into the cozy world of hate and bigotry. Its much easier to accept ones inadequacies when you can blame it on your "jews" and "hahahahahahas". Actually with Trump you can add the "lying dishonest media" to that list.

When half the world was at war against brutal evil ideologies there were no "fine people" on the other side, and the likes of Oppoten that would find themselves running for cover.

So fuck you if you want to minimise and excuse your racist leanings, and fuck you if you think I am not going to call you out on it.

:2 cents:


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